Skip to comments.Dear Freepers, Don't Back a Losing Argument: Just Accept the Fact Obama was born in Hawaii (Vanity)
Posted on 07/30/2009 8:35:25 PM PDT by Edward Watson
The entire birther argument, that Obama was actually born in Kenya instead of the US, making him ineligible for holding the office of the President of the US, is a spurious argument. It plays into Obama and the liberals hands - they want this to continue since it makes regular conservatives and opponents into fringe wackos.
Not one of us would've looked harder at his legitimacy than Hilary Clinton and the entire Clinton smear machine during the Democratic primaries. That magic bullet would've given Hilary the presidency - and yet nada, bupkis.
There are many valid reasons to oppose Obama and the liberals, but his birthplace isn't one of them.
Just answer one question: Why has he spent nearly a million dollars on lawyers to conceal these records?
However, the president's obfuscation of the question, and his attempted marginalization of the questioners by a thousand surrogates is something of a marvel.
I agree with your premise entirely. I wonder why spend millions keeping it court.
The captain obvious answers IMO in order of likelihood are 1) only a new copy so play the delay game 2) something to hide ON the long form 3) make people look like kooks
I kind of think it’s gotten out of hand to be just the kook angle.
I can’t back a LIE... OBAMA WAS NOT BORN IN HAWAII... HE WAS BORN IN INDONESIA OR KENYA...
PLUS, this isn’t JUST about his Birth Certificate. WHAT ABOUT THE boy who was shot who was testifying for the FBI about the theft of Obama’s pass port, which has information about his birth???
Plus, why spend a million on lawyers to keep your records hidden????? Get real, people!!! How many of you have sealed records of all your life????
Who cares if he was born in Hawaii...Obama promised to be transparent and he lied. He promised not to raise taxes and he lied. He promised to be an allie of Israel and he lied. If Obama can not produce a birth certificate, he is a liar.
You mean just accept the fact that Obama won’t be held to answer for ANYTHING much less a birth certificate. Bow down.
I see no harm in pushing this issue. There is no backlash (just check out his polls), the “racist” accusation is overused and does not carry the sting it used to and no one can present a coherent reason why he should not release his complete birth certificate data as well as his college records.
Those 37 Social Security numbers can't simply be explained away...
I rather think there’s no harm in anything that brings Obama’s legitimacy into question.
And if Keyes and O’Rly stumble into a courtroom that has a skeptic— not a bootlick— in robes, this might turn into something.
I hope Obama keeps putting this off. Imagine him trying to negotiate a treaty with Somali pirates, and before they sign they ask for a COLB.
First of all Hillary is tricky. Second Hillary is tricky and third Hillary is tricky.
You honestly do not believe this woman would have brought this out in the beginning especially with an alledged black candidate?
It plays into Obama and the liberals hands - they want this to continue since it makes regular conservatives and opponents into fringe wackos.
In WHOSE opinion?
Why do you let the propaganda from the LeftMedia lead you around by the nose?
On the contrary, insisting on the rule of law is the most non-”wacko” perspective possible.
Perhaps because it’s NOT his money and he can make his enemies look like fools for wasting so much time, effort, spit, and their own money on something that is demonstrably provable at a time and place of OBAMA’S choosing.
The birthers are being played by the master manipulator.
Also, most of the people involved in the Obama administration; etc began with the Clintons.
I know your heart is in the right place. I can’t agree with you though. Kenya celebrates his birthplace. His grandmother and aunt state they were there when he was born in Kenya.
If Hawaii didn’t have such a backwater birth certificate situation on it’s hands, it would be a lot easier to iron this out. The sad fact is, you can be born elsewhere and come up with documents that make it look like you were born there.
Then there’s the issue of this guy’s history. You can’t get one detail about it. What we know is every sparse. What we do know causes concern.
Who paid for Barack’s education? There are so many questions with this guy. We know his high school days were not spent with him applying himself. How did he get in those major universities?
It IS a losing argument. America doesn’t like this president. Let’s go with that.
It’s never too late to Zot.
The fact is we don’t know where he was born. We don’t know what his LEGAL name is. There is very little known about this MARXIST USURPER execpt the fact that he HATES AMERICA and is doing everything in his power to destroy it.
He needs to be EXPOSED soon.
“Why has he spent nearly a million dollars on lawyers to conceal these records?”
This is a nonstarter. I’m sure it wasn’t his money. A million out of his giant campaign warchest is a drop in the water. Also, these guys retain lawyers for whatever. The BC issue is just what happened to come up.
Finally, the money was spent because he just doesn’t want to bother with the long form, and apparently he doesn’t have to. We don’t know why he didn’t just release the damn thing from the beginning. But given there’s absolutely no hard evidence that he was born in Kenya, it’s premature to assume it’s because he wasn’t born American. Maybe he just doesn’t like to unseal records.
It’s not a question of winning or losing an argument. It’s about the truth and the sanctity of the constitution.
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