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Birth of a nation: Too many Americans buy crank theory on Obama's citizenship
New York Daily News ^ | Saturday, August 1st 2009

Posted on 08/01/2009 1:38:58 PM PDT by presidio9

There's Red America, Blue America and Tinfoil Helmet America. And it looks like the third camp is enormously larger than anyone feared.

A new poll, commissioned by the liberal Web site Daily Kos found that fully 11% of Americans think that Barack Obama wasn't born in the United States. And another 12% said that they are unsure.

The doubters are heavily concentrated in the Republican Party, according to pollsters. An amazing 58% of the surveyed Republicans questioned whether Obama, in fact, entered the world in Hawaii.

What this means: Millions of Americans suspect or are convinced that Obama, son of a Kenyan father, is not a citizen and thus cannot legitimately serve as President. And no Hawaiian birth certificate or newspaper announcement from the time will convince them otherwise.

Who are these people? They're the ones whose feet are not planted on U.S. soil - or any soil.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Miscellaneous; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2009polls; afterbirthers; article2section1; barackobama; bho44; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; colb; conspiracytheory; imom; kenya; kenyan; muslim; mysteryman; naturalborn; obama; obamanoncitizenissue; obroma; presidiot9; thenew911truthers
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To: presidio9

Just show me the birth certificate and the college transcripts!!

Even with a BC he is still a lying RACIST Marxist!

I do not give two hoots in hell what any one else thinks about those of us questioning his vital statistics.


21 posted on 08/01/2009 1:48:40 PM PDT by texican01
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To: presidio9
President Obama is my president.

Former US Senator obama is not my president. He is an evil and divisive druggie who hates capitalism, hates white people, and hates America. He is the usurper in my White House and a threat to my country, nothing more.

22 posted on 08/01/2009 1:49:07 PM PDT by TurtleUp (So this is how liberty dies - to thunderous applause!)
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To: presidio9
Most people cannot believe what has happened with the election of this accident! It is shock, horror and dismay. Many are thinking "What have we done?" You cannot blame people for going off the deep end when they cast about for some way to undo the disaster they have helped perpetrate. I can forgive them as I understand the depth of their feelings.(Forgiveness is an "in thing" right now,)
23 posted on 08/01/2009 1:49:27 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: presidio9
As I posted earlier on another topic, we will NEVER know the truth about Obama’s birth certificate. Long before this became a public matter, Obama’s handlers took care of the records. We will NEVER know the facts. It's time to focus on the future and forget this issue. Obama is NOT going to be removed from office over his birth certificate. I don't like it, but we have to deal with the reality of the situation.
24 posted on 08/01/2009 1:49:50 PM PDT by Nosterrex
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To: texican01

You said — Just show me the birth certificate and the college transcripts!!

If you want to see the birth certificate, you’re going to have to get that state law passed that I’m talking about. Since it is not a *legal requirement* for a candidate to show his birth certificate, you’re not going to see it — and that’s the reason why you haven’t seen it up to this time...


25 posted on 08/01/2009 1:50:30 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Star Traveler

Here we go again. We don’t need any new laws. Just enforce the ones on the books.


26 posted on 08/01/2009 1:50:59 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Nosterrex

You said — Obama is NOT going to be removed from office over his birth certificate. I don’t like it, but we have to deal with the reality of the situation.

There is a bit of *insanity* involved with some in this group, when saying that Obama has to show them his birth certificate. For the first thing, they cannot even recognize that there is *no legal requirement* for a candidate to show his birth certificate. And for the second thing — when there *is a solution* that will solve that problem (enact a state law...) — those same people will *oppose a state law* saying something to the effect that “no stinkin’ law is needed” for Obama to show me his birth certificate... LOL...

That’s what I call “going insane” — which I think happened to a lot of people on November 5th...


27 posted on 08/01/2009 1:53:31 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: presidio9

Yeah, me too, same old question.....so why is he hiding it? What’s the deal?


28 posted on 08/01/2009 1:53:45 PM PDT by CanaGuy (Go Harper!)
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To: presidio9
I wonder if they polled how many Americans think Bush orchestrated planes to fly into the WTC and the Pentagon, what type of percentage they would get. Or if they polled how many Americans think Bush steered Hurricane Katrina into New Orleans just to kill black people, what type of percentage they would get?

All I want to know is, why won't Obama reveal the birth certificate? This is really so easy to swat down and yet he refuses to do it. Why?

We don't need prove of black helicopters or space aliens to blow the entire "birther" question out of the water. We just need the paper copy of a sealed and notorized birth certificate.

I can get mine from the State of New Jersey for just a few bucks and a return envelope. It's ridiculously easy. Why is it too difficult for the most powerful man in the world?

I know there is practically no chance Obama will be removed from office. To me, that's not the issue. The issue is why a request that almost anyone else needs to comply with in order to get a job with the federal government is so difficult for this person to comply with?

I just want to see a valid paper birth certificate. Produce it, and I'm willing to let the whole issue die.

30 posted on 08/01/2009 1:54:40 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (YES WE CAN have a Depression.)
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To: Don Corleone
>>Obama, son of a Kenyan father, is not a citizen<<

Obama could be a citizen but he IS NOT a natural born citizen because his father (by Obama's own admission) was a Kenyan national. He is therefore ineligible to be President of the United States because he had only one parent who was a U.S. citizen. It takes two.

31 posted on 08/01/2009 1:54:40 PM PDT by afnamvet
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To: freekitty

You said — Here we go again. We don’t need any new laws. Just enforce the ones on the books.

The problem, as you well know by now..., is that there is *no legal requirement* for any candidate to show his birth certificate...

I’m always amazed at how *disconnected with reality* some are, when presented with a clear solution — such as enact a state law... but no.... they can’t figure it out... LOL...


32 posted on 08/01/2009 1:55:57 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: presidio9

A) Neither the Obama faction, nor his Republican hack defenders, have produced ANY document that proves he was born in the United States, which, considering the legal status of his alleged parents, he had to be to be constitutionally qualified to be President of the United States.

B) Even if forced to produce the actual long form birth certificate, and were that document to prove that he was born in Hawaii, that is not enough. He very well may have expatriated himself as an adult. That’s why his college and passport documents must also be shown.


33 posted on 08/01/2009 1:58:22 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Just say NO to national socialism!)
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To: presidio9
The doubters are heavily concentrated in the Republican Party, according to pollsters.

That's because liberals and Democrats don't want to know. As proof, look at the death of investigative journalism. It's not that the MSM doesn't know how or can't afford to do it anymore, they are just afraid of what they might find on either side of the aisle, so they don't even try anymore.

-PJ

34 posted on 08/01/2009 1:58:38 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (This just in... Voting Republican is a Terrorist act!)
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To: presidio9

By the way, this piece is the worst kind of lying trash.

Yellow journalism of the worst sort.


35 posted on 08/01/2009 1:59:27 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Just say NO to national socialism!)
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To: presidio9

Analogous to the old 7-Up commecials, there’s also Un-America.

Like Obama and his apologists, including this author.


36 posted on 08/01/2009 1:59:49 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat
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To: presidio9
What this means: Millions of Americans suspect or are convinced that Obama, son of a Kenyan father, is not a citizen and thus cannot legitimately serve as President.

Always start with a LIE to build your case.

Obama could release his vital birth records that are held by the state of Hawaii. THIS document has the citizenship of both of his parents. This is how we would know if he is a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN. With a KENYAN father he could be a CITIZEN with an American mother. To be President of the US you MUST be a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN. What is so hard to understand about that?

37 posted on 08/01/2009 2:01:08 PM PDT by missnry (The truth will set you free ... and drive liberals Crazy!)
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To: Political Junkie Too
The doubters are heavily concentrated in the Republican Party, according to pollsters.

No thanks to their yellow-bellied "leaders."

38 posted on 08/01/2009 2:01:55 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Just say NO to national socialism!)
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To: presidio9
And no Hawaiian birth certificate or newspaper announcement from the time will convince them otherwise.

Do you notice that all of the anti-Birther articles always start right out with untrue statements like the one above. None of us have seen Obama's Birth Certificate and the writer of this article would know that if he/she had done 10 minutes worth of real research on the subject. Such is the state of American Journalism today. Sad to say.

39 posted on 08/01/2009 2:02:21 PM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: presidio9

Obama has hidden, cloaked, lost and disposed of more of the paper trail of his life than any other human in US political history. Where there’s smoke there’s fire. Asking for documentation of the name of the physician that delivered Ann Dunham is a minor request.


40 posted on 08/01/2009 2:02:25 PM PDT by x_plus_one (Only ACORN could put a long legged mac daddy, quasi-muslim, communist freak into the white house...)
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