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And now for a world government
Financial Times ^ | December 8 2008 | Gideon Rachman

Posted on 08/02/2009 7:44:04 PM PDT by george76

I have never believed that there is a secret United Nations plot to take over the US. I have never seen black helicopters hovering in the sky above Montana. But, for the first time in my life, I think the formation of some sort of world government is plausible.

A “world government” would involve much more than co-operation between nations. It would be an entity with state-like characteristics, backed by a body of laws.

Geoffrey Blainey, an eminent Australian historian, has written: “For the first time in human history, world government of some sort is now possible.”

Barack Obama... In his book, The Audacity of Hope, he argued that: “When the world’s sole superpower willingly restrains its power and abides by internationally agreed-upon standards of conduct, it sends a message that these are rules worth following.”

The importance that Mr Obama attaches to the UN is shown by the fact that he has appointed Susan Rice, one of his closest aides, as America’s ambassador to the UN, and given her a seat in the cabinet.

A taste of the ideas doing the rounds in Obama circles is offered by a recent report from the Managing Global Insecurity project, whose small US advisory group includes John Podesta... Strobe Talbott, the president of the Brookings Institution, from which Ms Rice has just emerged.

The MGI report argues for the creation of a UN high commissioner for ...

These are the kind of ideas that get people reaching for their rifles in America’s talk-radio heartland. Aware of the political sensitivity of its ideas, the MGI report opts for soothing language.

(Excerpt) Read more at ft.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: bho44; globalism; nwo; podesta; strobetalbott; unitednations; worldgovernment
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To: charmedone
Will our military fire on civilians?

As long as they're Obama's people out actively fighting against the Constitution and our way of life, I'm cool with the military doing what needs to be done.

21 posted on 08/02/2009 8:10:26 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century. I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: A_Former_Democrat

“They can’t, won’t, ain’t gonna happen, never will.”

Never deny the power of a heavy handed government!


23 posted on 08/02/2009 8:12:28 PM PDT by charmedone (There is a right to health care but no right to be born?)
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To: the invisib1e hand

It came across as an endorsement, and since you have been here since 2003, it seemed out of place.


24 posted on 08/02/2009 8:13:05 PM PDT by Kackikat
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To: nathanbedford

We were not created to be a democracy, but a republic.


25 posted on 08/02/2009 8:14:53 PM PDT by Kackikat
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To: the invisib1e hand

“They did it because...communities (large, small, local, global) must be organized.”

They set it up to be, as Glenn Beck put it, just this side of anarchy. Basically to give access to national defense and a court system. Not this abomination we have now.


26 posted on 08/02/2009 8:17:28 PM PDT by FreeSouthernAmerican (I AM JIM THOMPSON)
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To: Kackikat
1998 under various and sundry incarnations. do you want to see my papers?

Imagine if all the world were like what the founders envisioned -- that wouldn't be bad, would it? It would be global government...but of course it would be a long row to hoe to get there, and I expect the Kingdom will come by then.

See, this is the pickle we are in: it is inevitable, even if everything we see tells us it's going to be a disaster. We have to fight the good fight all the more.

27 posted on 08/02/2009 8:20:52 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (The revolution IS being televised.)
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To: george76

Not only is world government plausible it is probable as it is the prime directive of most of the folks promoted into any sort of political power.


28 posted on 08/02/2009 8:21:18 PM PDT by Republic_of_Secession.
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To: Republic_of_Secession.

This is true - what I said - at the risk of getting accused of wearing a tin foil hat.


29 posted on 08/02/2009 8:23:02 PM PDT by Republic_of_Secession.
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To: brushcop

I will state that some of them may have very hard to see writing on them, some have appeared to have nothing on them.


30 posted on 08/02/2009 8:23:11 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: the invisib1e hand

Global Government is absurd, and not at all what the “founding fathers” envisioned. They left England, because they had very different ideas about God, worship and freedom.
If you look at various countries, religions, customs and beliefs, then you know ALL could not remain harmonious under a “one size fits all” umbrella. It isn’t possible, and shouldn’t be expected to work.
In fact, when they try to force this... you will see the war to end all wars, and a return of the true Messiah, with the Armies of Heaven behind him, in indestrucable bodies, and that’s why Jesus wins.


31 posted on 08/02/2009 8:27:02 PM PDT by Kackikat
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To: Kackikat
In fact, when they try to force this... you will see the war to end all wars, and a return of the true Messiah, with the Armies of Heaven behind him, in indestrucable bodies, and that’s why Jesus wins.

I agree with your conclusion, obviously. But I think the point is being missed.

Why will they try to enforce it, if it's not inevitable?

And if you believe the Revelation, how can you believe the building of a world government isn't inevitable?

32 posted on 08/02/2009 8:29:40 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (The revolution IS being televised.)
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To: Kackikat

If there is a global government, you can bet the first 50 years of it will be plundering former citizens of the USA for the sake of global equity. Just watch.


33 posted on 08/02/2009 8:30:16 PM PDT by johnnycap
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To: Kackikat

Yeah, I think its funny that folks that claim a one-world government is inevitable because of religious aspects don’t take into consideration that what sets off Armageddon is a global conflict.


34 posted on 08/02/2009 8:30:24 PM PDT by FreeSouthernAmerican (I AM JIM THOMPSON)
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To: the invisib1e hand

I believe it is inevitable (as in God’s will), however I don’t support it, and will fight it, and hope it’s not in my lifetime! (AKA: We in the US never subscribe to such an event).


36 posted on 08/02/2009 8:50:20 PM PDT by JSDude1
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To: JSDude1
see, this is the funny thing about "conservatives." they either don't see that it makes sense for other countries to have a sound, robust, government; or don't give a rip about other people.

Liberty is either growing or its dying.

37 posted on 08/02/2009 8:52:42 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (The revolution IS being televised.)
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To: the invisib1e hand

“don’t give a rip about other people.”

Why is it my business how other people live their lives? Why is it my business to pay for someone else? Why is it their business to pay for me? I care about me and mine. Its called responsibility. I am not responsible for anyone else. I care for my family and friends. Nothing more.


38 posted on 08/02/2009 8:56:15 PM PDT by FreeSouthernAmerican (I AM JIM THOMPSON)
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To: the invisib1e hand

see, this is the funny thing about “liberals” ...they claim to care about other people...so much so that they are going to tell these other people how to live their lives...voila’! Tyranny...


39 posted on 08/02/2009 9:00:17 PM PDT by Niteflyr ("Just because something is free doesn't mean it's good for you".)
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To: FreeSouthernAmerican
Why is it my business how other people live their lives? Why is it my business to pay for someone else? Why is it their business to pay for me? I care about me and mine. Its called responsibility. I am not responsible for anyone else. I care for my family and friends. Nothing more.

You a conservative, are ya? Bet you have pictures of the founders hanging on your office wall, right?

So tell me, do you think you'd be able to sit around and say "screw everyone but me" if they didn't sacrifice their fortunes and lives to give you the privilege?

Bet you read the bible, too. You know you're quoting Cain the Murderer when you say, "I ain't my brother's keeper."

And who said anything about "paying" for anything or anyone.

Get some oxygen for that sandpit your head's buried in.

Just freaking OY!

40 posted on 08/02/2009 9:02:03 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (The revolution IS being televised.)
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