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Attempt to debunk Obama's Kenyan birth certificate debunked (Barry name change legal?)
Examiner.com ^ | August 5, 2009 | Geoff Linsley

Posted on 08/05/2009 6:30:17 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum

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To: jamese777

There must be photographs taken back then by people living in that area of Obama’s mother and the photograph that would do the trick is one of her in Kenya with Obama in her arms. Baby pictures are typically taken and I would be shocked to find out that Grandma doesn’t have a photo of her with baby Obama.


41 posted on 08/05/2009 2:08:40 PM PDT by knightforhire (Gov Blog thought he talked to an Obama man?)
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It’s really all a moot point. Even if he was born in Hawaii he would still not be a US Citizen. In 1961, BOTH parents had to be US citizens for automatic citizenship. If not, citizenship passed through your father. Too many people are thinking in today’s terms if you are born on US property you are a citizen.

If Lolo Soetoro did adopt BHO, did he give up his parental/custodial rights when BHO got sent back to Hawaii? He allegedly became a Indonesian citizen (because Indonesia at the time did not allow dual citizenship).

And just curious why a 28-year old mother would send back her ten-year old son to live with his grandparents.

What passport did he use to travel back and forth to
Indonesia?

My personal favorite is that Madelyn Dunham and Franklin Marshall Davis or Malcolm X are his real parents. MD was quite the looker back in the day. I see no real physical resemblence between Sr. and Jr.

This is better than any soap opera I could ever write.


42 posted on 08/05/2009 2:13:59 PM PDT by bjorn14
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To: bjorn14

It’s really all a moot point. Even if he was born in Hawaii he would still not be a US Citizen. In 1961, BOTH parents had to be US citizens for automatic citizenship. If not, citizenship passed through your father. Too many people are thinking in today’s terms if you are born on US property you are a citizen.

If Lolo Soetoro did adopt BHO, did he give up his parental/custodial rights when BHO got sent back to Hawaii? He allegedly became a Indonesian citizen (because Indonesia at the time did not allow dual citizenship).

And just curious why a 28-year old mother would send back her ten-year old son to live with his grandparents.

What passport did he use to travel back and forth to
Indonesia?

My personal favorite is that Madelyn Dunham and Franklin Marshall Davis or Malcolm X are his real parents. MD was quite the looker back in the day. I see no real physical resemblence between Sr. and Jr.

This is better than any soap opera I could ever write


WRONG!
The 14th Amendment: “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.”
If Obama was born in Honolulu then he’s a natural born citizen. If a person is born in a state of the union, his parents have no legal effect on his/her citizenship.


43 posted on 08/05/2009 3:59:44 PM PDT by jamese777
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To: TheCipher
People are missing the point on this one. It doesn't matter whether it is real or not. What we now have are two conflicting pieces of digital evidence ( Obamas COLB and the Kenyan BC ). The only way for the judge in CA to resolve this is to order discovery of the actual hard copies from Hawaii ( he can have the State Department request them from Kenya, but in all reality, they don't have to comply ). The main reason for producing this document now is to force production of the Hawaii BC.

It goes further than that, it appears that one of the two documents is a forgery (if not both). Since Orly has a pending case in Federal court, if the document/photo of document is a forgery, it very possible the person who falsified the document could be prosecuted for Obstruction of Justice, thus warranting a complete investigation,

Title 18 § 1519.USC Destruction, alteration, or falsification of records in Federal investigations and bankruptcy How Current is This? Whoever knowingly alters, destroys, mutilates, conceals, covers up, falsifies, or makes a false entry in any record, document, or tangible object with the intent to impede, obstruct, or influence the investigation or proper administration of any matter within the jurisdiction of any department or agency of the United States or any case filed under title 11, or in relation to or contemplation of any such matter or case, shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both.

44 posted on 08/05/2009 10:48:14 PM PDT by rolling_stone (no more bailouts, the taxpayers are out of money!)
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To: rolling_stone

A) The Bomford document is an obvious fake. It has been THOROUGHLY debunked by seriously committed FReepers and many others, even though the Left is still all over the place claiming that it is authentic.

B) Nothing has been discovered that debunks the Taitz-produced document. And many have tried.


45 posted on 08/05/2009 11:11:48 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Just say NO to national socialism!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Bump for later reading...


46 posted on 08/06/2009 7:17:22 AM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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To: EternalVigilance
Taitz document is still standing, and this is a shock to me. (I originally thought he was born in Hawaii, but I thought he was Kenyan anyway because his Father is Kenyan. So this document still standing is shocking to me.)

This is the only document that gives us an actual birthplace.

Barring any further developments that may invalidate this document, Our president was born in the city of Mombasa Kenya, and is a native born Kenyan.

To me, its good to know. I feel we are getting close to closure and the truth. He's a Kenyan in every sense of the word.

His trip to Kenya after being elected a US congressman now makes perfect sense. He returned home to flaunt his success in his native country. The only way this document get debunked is if Obama shows his hand. Thats why the press is now going nutz trying to smear Taitz.

47 posted on 08/06/2009 8:03:40 AM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: steve-b
can't find where the article provides an example of a known genuine Kenyan birth certificate from that date

On Orly's site (http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/) you will find a very persuasive letter from a Kenyan born about the same time as Obama indicating that their documents are amazingly similar, with both actually signed by the same E.F. Lavender. Surely, the email could have been concocted, but to me it reads very authentic:

“I happen to be Kenyan. I was born 1 month before Obama at Mombasa medical center. I am a teacher here at the MM Shaw Primary School in Kenya. I compared my birth certificate to the one that has been put on by Taitz and mine is exactly the same. I even have the same registrar and format. The type is identical. I am by nature a skeptical person. I teach science here and challenge most things that cannot be proven. So I went to an official registrar today and pulled up the picture on the web. They magnified it and determined it to be authentic. There is even a plaque with Registrar Lavenders name on it as he was a Brit and was in charge of the Registrar office from 1959 until January of 1964. The reason the date on the certificate says republic of Kenya is that we were a republic when the “copy” of the original was ordered. I stress the word “copy.” My copy also has republic of Kenya.”

48 posted on 08/06/2009 9:22:45 AM PDT by Fractal Trader
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To: nikos1121
Where he did get ALL THIS MONEY to out finance Hillary?

Have you ever heard of Khalid Mansour (a black American who changed his name to sound Arabic)? He is incredibly well-connected to Arab wealth and has long been a benefactor of BHO.

49 posted on 08/06/2009 9:26:43 AM PDT by Fractal Trader
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To: Fractal Trader

“The lurkers support me in e-mail....”


50 posted on 08/06/2009 9:38:13 AM PDT by steve-b (Intelligent Design -- "A Wizard Did It")
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To: steve-b

The lurkers are DU trollls you stupid tool.


51 posted on 08/09/2009 11:42:32 AM PDT by Tempest (Honk if I'm paying for your bonus.)
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