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Biker killed in freeway road-rage clash
Fox 5 San Diego ^

Posted on 08/12/2009 5:41:25 AM PDT by DemonDeac

"CAMARILLO, Calif. - A motor home struck and killed a motorcyclist, dragging his body about 75 feet on U.S. Highway 101 in a bloody conclusion to a Ventura County road-rage encounter.

The motorcycle was impaled on the motor home.

Witnesses and motor home driver Michael Antoine told the California Highway Patrol the biker made obscene hand gestures and pulled in front of the motor home before braking suddenly Monday afternoon."

(Excerpt) Read more at fox5sandiego.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: holdmuhbeer; motorcycles; roadrage
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To: DemonDeac

My experience with motorcycle drivers and a hard look at safety data can be summarized as follows:

1. Most motorcycle drivers never come close to having an accident.
2. There are a number of motorcycle drivers who are drawn to motorcycles for their perceived higher risk. The purchase of a motorcycle is, for these characters, a death warrant.
3. Most motorcycle drivers who die in accidents have had at least one major automobile accident in the last five years.
4. Most deaths on motorcycles involved people who do not have the motorcycle endorsement on their drivers license.

I think the guy in the motorhome is without fault and he had the unfortunate experience of running into a number two.

Darwin award for the motorcyclist seems to me to be appropriate. At least an honorable mention, perhaps.


41 posted on 08/12/2009 6:50:08 AM PDT by texmexis best (uency)
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To: Talisker
it was the bicyclist who went insane,

Motorcycle not bicycle. However, your general premise is correct. The motorcycle rider was at fault. I sounds to me as if he was trying to cause the RV to lose control and crash. This actually worked but with some unforeseen consequences to the motorcyclist.

42 posted on 08/12/2009 6:55:46 AM PDT by calex59
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To: wastoute

I gotta say I get SO PO’d when cages do stupid things that put my life in danger but you gotta remember who you are and where you are. I do admit that when folks do stupid things around me I figure they are mostly driving the same routes so I look for ‘em later in my F-350. I call it the “Iceberg”. Folks respect that.

OOOOO, I’ve seen something like this happen on the way to work on day. This kid in a Mazda 3 was weaving in and out of traffic, not looking, detriot lean, oblivious to everyone else. In my rear view mirror I saw him cut a guy off in an older red pickup truck. Next thing I know I see the kid (now ahead of me) get run into the jersey barriers by the red truck - the truck kept going. I was so happy that day to see the little f@#$%^ got what he deserved.


43 posted on 08/12/2009 7:00:07 AM PDT by Cyclone59 (Everything that hits the fan is not evenly distributed)
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To: knarf
That's the physical part of my thinking ... the psych part says ... ain't no way a biker, no matter HOW pi$$ed off he may be, would pull an adolescent trick like that. I think the RV driver is the one that raged against the biker.

Read the article, the witnesses say that the biker did exactly that, pulled in front of the RV and braked suddenly. This was after flipping the RV driver off for some unknown(at least to us)reason. It sounds to me as if the biker wanted to cause the RV driver to lose control and didn't figure on being the bug on the windshield. As I said to another poster, unforeseen consequences. Apparently you are a motorcycle rider and for some reason don't want to believe what eye witnesses said. That is your prerogative.

44 posted on 08/12/2009 7:01:11 AM PDT by calex59
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To: DemonDeac

Not much relaxing at Camarillo in this incident.


45 posted on 08/12/2009 7:07:44 AM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: Talisker

Apparently you didn’t read the entire article:

CHP Officer Terry Uhrich says the 68-year-old motor home driver was traveling about 55 mph in the southbound lanes in Camarillo and couldn’t avoid slamming into the bike.

I didn’t get the impression at all that the article author was blaming the Motor Home Driver, I got the impression that the Biker was mad about the slow speed of the Motor Home, and tried to piss the poor MH drive off (who did not), but couldn’t react to the Biker’s Childish games..which eventually killed him.


46 posted on 08/12/2009 7:28:22 AM PDT by JSDude1 (www.wethepeopleindiana.org (Tea Party Member-Proud), www.travishankins.com (R- IN 09 2010!))
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To: Talisker

You have a very active imagination.


47 posted on 08/12/2009 7:33:51 AM PDT by Mashood
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To: Talisker
But the MSM wants to protect the liberal insanity and aggressiveness from being exposed.

Uhmm...what?

You divined from a 124 word article that not only was the biker a liberal, but that the RV driver was conservative and the media was trying to make him loo bad to protect the biker.

Did I get that straight? I hope not.

48 posted on 08/12/2009 7:36:54 AM PDT by NucSubs ( Cognitive dissonance: Conflict or anxiety resulting from inconsistency between beliefs and actions)
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To: Talisker
But the MSM wants to protect the liberal insanity and aggressiveness from being exposed.

Uhmm...what?

You divined from a 124 word article that not only was the biker a liberal, but that the RV driver was conservative and the media was trying to make him loo bad to protect the biker.

Did I get that straight? I hope not.

49 posted on 08/12/2009 7:37:13 AM PDT by NucSubs ( Cognitive dissonance: Conflict or anxiety resulting from inconsistency between beliefs and actions)
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To: xsrdx
Always get a kick out of movies where motorcycles menace cars; all the car has to do is stop or turn and the biker is deep in the hurt box.

A relatively small percentage of the population is willing to kill. That's what these idiots depend upon. Occasionally, they guess wrongly.

50 posted on 08/12/2009 7:39:35 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Public healthcare looks like it will work as well as public housing did.)
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To: calex59
No, my riding days ended ... ohhhh ... some 30 years ago.

I was commenting from my perspective as a truck driver with a better than average field of vision, comparing that field of vision with an RV driver ... two more than young men with something to lose and .... well ... I DID read the article ... I just have a hard time believing the outcome.

55MPH is not that fast, the biker was dragged in gravel (obviously the RV driver had enough where-with-all ... and space/time) to get over to the berm .... and I know too that if I rearend someone, my immediate reaction is to lock 'em up and pray I didn't kill the guy.


Nope .. the RV said, "Up mine, huh ... how about phuque you, a$$hole" ... and killed the biker.


The visual the eyewitnesses saw could support that account.

51 posted on 08/12/2009 7:54:33 AM PDT by knarf
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To: NucSubs; Mashood; JSDude1
Did I get that straight? I hope not.

See my Post #21. I misread it as bicycle, and went from there.

52 posted on 08/12/2009 7:56:58 AM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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To: knarf

The artilce did not say he was drug in gravel. It said he was drug until he came loose in the travel lanes.


53 posted on 08/12/2009 7:58:35 AM PDT by Ratman83
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To: Ratman83

My bad .. you’re right ... travel, not gravel.


54 posted on 08/12/2009 8:03:50 AM PDT by knarf
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To: knarf

P.S. ,, Hwy 101 ... what is it? .. 4, 5, 6 lane?


55 posted on 08/12/2009 8:06:00 AM PDT by knarf
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To: knarf

4 lane divided freeway.


56 posted on 08/12/2009 11:01:47 AM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: Disambiguator

Goes to show you that you can ignore the laws of physics But it is real hard to ignore the results of ignoring the laws of physics.


57 posted on 08/12/2009 11:02:37 AM PDT by Nebr FAL owner (.308 reach out & thump someone .50 cal.Browning Machine gun reach out & crush someone)
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To: DemonDeac

Dumb. RIP.


58 posted on 08/12/2009 11:51:37 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: NucSubs

“Uhmm...what?

You divined from a 124 word article that not only was the biker a liberal, but that the RV driver was conservative and the media was trying to make him loo bad to protect the biker.

Did I get that straight? I hope not.”

The FBI should hire that poster.


59 posted on 08/21/2009 2:01:17 PM PDT by DemonDeac
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