Posted on 08/16/2009 12:55:58 PM PDT by tobyhill
Four Democratic senators want to put off the proposed cap & trade legislation. Blanche Lincoln of Arkansas, Ben Nelson of Nebraska and Byron Dorgan and Kent Conrad both of North Dakota are urging the Senate to delay legislation that puts caps on greenhouse gas emissions and instead, pass a narrow bill that sets requirements on the use of renewable energy.
Senators Lincoln and Dorgan are up for re-election in 2010 and are from states that would be hurt economically from a cap and trade bill similar to the one passed by the House in June.
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D. NV) does not want to separate the climate and energy legislation. “I don’t think we are going to take to the Senate floor a bill stripped of climate provisions,” said Reid, quoted in Bloomberg.
Getting the required 60 votes in the Senate could be a challenge for the Democrats. Most Republicans have stated that they oppose it. Fifteen Democrats say the House version would hurt the economy and needs to be amended before gaining their support.
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No...What I was thinking was voting her out next year.
I misread your thoughts.
I don’t live in CA (thank goodness) but I’m think a ball of belly button lint could do better.
I believe Conrad has a pretty formidable opponent this time around so he's pretty nervous.
Does it ever. I agree.
They should be in jail and we have just the place. Guantanmo seems to be up for rent.
Cap and Trade embeds itself and becomes a part of permanent energy infrastructure and can suck in as much money as they want to make, while completely distorting and controlling energy and manufacturing capacity markets.
EPA regulations are temporary, not permanent, can be easily undone by another administration and, while controlling and distorting the markets, don't bring substantial and direct financial benefits to financial community and even majority of politicos. Just a sop to "greens" at the expense of economy, employment and tax revenues. Much pain, little gain.
Cap and Trade is the ultimate prize, but in the meantime, they try to make some scratch with mandating "clean energy" in the form of wind and solar, because they are so invested in them.
The socialist house of cards is crumbling.
Thanks to great Americans all over this country.
I believe that Speaker of the House doesn't have to be a Congress member of the House. Though I don't have an example of one who wasn't.
Very good points. You seem to question Congress and the administration’s “intent” in passing this cap and trade. It’s not all for the “good of Mother Earth”? I’m shocked!
but, but..........the good enviro/liberal/radical types are against more nuclear, against more oil drilling, against more refineries, against LNG because we’re supposed to get away from all fossil fuels, claim that there’s no such thing as “clean coal” , and anyway, coal is still a fossil fuel, which we’re supposed to get away from.
Liberal enviros are only in favor of solar energy and windmills and geo thermal power. But the windmills can’t block Ted Kennedy’s view.
This will be the NEXT big fight, and Obama ‘s political capital account has just been overdrawn!!
“Australia to Split Climate Change Proposal After Senate Failure”. Our senators aren’t very original in their current approach, are they?
“Comprehensive Immigration Reform”, (aka “Illegal Alien Amnesty”) Round III
We had better fight that one harder than we have fought for anything, because the illegals will all vote RAT, and that will be the end of a two party government. It will be the end of America! Literally!!
God bless you!
C&T in Australia was in the works and a matter of public debate for quite some time, so the failure to pass it Down Under by “progressive” government was “a shock to the system”.
It gives a pretty good indication that C&T would be even less popular than in Australia, so they are changing course in midstream, to get a much needed legislative “victory” while keeping the option of legislating / mandating carbon trading in the future, either to “save the environment” or “become energy independent” - whichever populist sentiment will be strongest at the time of their choosing.
I picture it as that series of tropical lows drifting westward from Africa across the South Atlantic. Each one has the potential to develop into a storm that can do harm.
Listen closely... That is “Taps” they are playing for Obamacare and Cap and Trade, also knows as the Chinese Factory Worker Job Security Bill.
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Come on what are they afraid of? I hope they try to push cap and trade.
Ben Nelson (NE) has been feeling the heat in Nebraska. Just like Obamacare, he knows he’s stepping on thin ice.
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