You Know Obama's In Trouble On Healthcare Reform When...

CNBC ^ | August 19, 2009 | Andrew B. Busch

[CutePuppy]

Obama: You Know You're In Trouble On Healthcare When...

1. Former Clintonite Robert Reich calls for a march on Washington, DC to protest pulling back the public option.

2. MSNBC's Rachel Madow says "Why is the public option dying now? It's dying because a collapse of political ambition."

3. WaPo's Eugene Robison writes on health care under the headline of "Where's Mr. Transformer?"

4. Even Jon Stewart of the Daily Show says, “Remember the Bush team? Little bit of discipline, little bit of repetition. They sold us a WAR nobody wanted and nobody needed. … Salesmanship! Those guys could sell ice cubes to Eskimos. The Democrats, I don’t even think could sell Eskimos (BEEP) they need — insulation, heating apparatus. … Yes, we can! [pause] Unless you don’t think we should!”

As WaPo reports today, Democratic in-fighting over the White House's apparent shift away from the public option is a move that has riled progressives and threatened to derail the broader debate. "I don't understand why the left of the left has decided that this is their Waterloo," sighed one senior White House adviser. "It's a mystifying thing."

The key to a deal remains some compromise with Republicans to get them to go along with a "reform" package and provide cover to Democrats that gained seats from Republicans in the last election. The place to look where this may happen: The Senate Finance Committee. Key players: Baucus and Grassley. Baucus has to give Grassley something that Republicans Hatch, Kyl, Enzi, or Cornyn can agree to sign.

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[CutePuppy]

You do the Hokey Pokey and you turn yourself around. That's what it's all about!

Dems must have "cover" to vote for the "reform" - that's what it's all about! "Go it alone" is a bluff to blame the Republicans for death of "bipartisan" bill.

Baucus is Dem Senator from Montana, which is why Obama was doing a townhall there.

[Mr. K]

The lefties are going nuts because they want it all NOW

What they fail to realize is that Obambi would gladly take WHATEVER h e can get, because it is creeping socialism... They will increase it later

[VisualizeSmallerGovernment]

Even Jon Stewart of the Daily Show says, “Remember the Bush team?

They just can't slam Obama without turning it into a "Republicans are evil" riff.

[Constitutions Grandchild]

You know the old saying, “The softer the product, the stronger the sell.” The product is faulty. No salesman on earth can overcome that. We’ve all had too much of “fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.”

[RC2]

“political ambition”? It’s called “political dictatorship”. These people have no right to vote on anything concerning our health care. Check the Constitution and show me were it states that.

[CutePuppy]

Exactly. Incrementalism, through courts, regulations and states’ legislations, has been liberals’ most successful strategy. We need to have a “public option” to ensure that bill doesn’t pass.

[LibertyRocks]

That quote about "Where is the transformer" reminded me of this pic from a South Park Episode ("The Coon" for those interested - see it at South Park studios online).



The "ordinary" Democrat activists are basically freaking out now. They believed all the LIES about being elected by an "overwhelming majority" and that the "public" was all gung-ho about Obama. What they fail to realize is that half of the votes were most likely fraudulent, and the other half are people who either don't really care (and are thus uninformed), or are people who actually BELIEVED the typical campaign lies and promises (the younger crowd, I would suspect -- or the idealistic hippies).

THAT is why this healthcare bill is failing -- because the PEOPLE of the US are NOT in favor of the government making our decisions for us... I think there are enough "blue dog" democrats, and honest Americans (even those who vote Dem due to confusion or family loyalty to the party), who fully recognize what Obama is doing to our country now...

If there is any consolation in all of this, it's that more people are "AWAKE" now, and are more aware than ever that the media (and our politicians) are for the majority just a bunch of lying hacks...

[BigEdLB]

Former Clintonite Robert Reich calls for a march on Washington, DC to protest pulling back the public option.

I think Reich will come up a little short if that is his goal.

[Buckeye McFrog]

in the libtard, mind, they’ve already accepted compromise by accepting Public Option instead of Single Payer. One more step in that direction and they’d be giving up the ballgame.

[Bobalu]

[CutePuppy]

They are trying to "soften" the "product". Hope they don't succeed.

Dems recommit to bipartisan health deal

- The Hill, 2009 August 19, by Alexander Bolton

Senate Democratic leaders and negotiators have recommitted themselves to a bipartisan healthcare deal, despite an August recess characterized by partisan sniping that prompted senior White House officials to consider a go-it-alone approach.

The renewed calls for patience and bipartisan talks have saved, at least temporarily, the healthcare debate from devolving into full-blown partisan chaos.

Tensions have grown over the August recess as angry conservative protesters have disrupted town hall meetings on healthcare reform, accusing Democratic lawmakers of peddling “socialized” medicine and a “Nazi policy.” And liberals have grown increasingly impatient over the lack of support from Republicans and reports that the White House might abandon a government-run health insurance program to woo the GOP.

But Senate Democrats and Republicans at the center of the debate have said a deal can be salvaged.

A senior aide to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) said Wednesday that Democratic leaders would prefer to advance a bipartisan bill through the Senate, instead of forcing it through using special budgetary rules.

“The White House and the Senate Democratic leadership still prefer a bipartisan bill, and neither the White House nor the leadership have made a decision to pursue reconciliation,” said Reid spokesman Jim Manley, in reference to the procedure whereby Democratic leaders could pass the healthcare bill with a simple majority.

Also on Wednesday, Senate Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus (D-Mont.) and Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) called on colleagues not to give up on the negotiations in pursuit of a deal. The two lawmakers have talked for weeks and colleagues and activists are growing impatient.

In an effort to demonstrate progress, members of the Gang of Six, a group of three Democrats and three Republicans on the Senate Finance panel, including Baucus and Grassley, announced they would hold a teleconference meeting at 9 pm Thursday. ....

[scottinoc]

5. When he’s making a Joe Namath-like “guarantee” that it will pass, like it’s a freakin’ football game.

[frogjerk]

You know the old saying, “The softer the product, the stronger the sell.” The product is faulty. No salesman on earth can overcome that. We’ve all had too much of “fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.”

[freekitty]

Oh the townhall that was secret; atleast the plans, and cost mega bucks of the people to lie to the people.

Did we the people authorize 400 rooms and lobster? I think not. Obama is not of America. He needs to go.

[freekitty]

Good one

[MrB]

Lefties know that 2009 is the ONLY year that this can happen,

and they are VERY frustrated that it looks like it won’t.

They’re admitting that their true goal is the total government takeover of all aspects of our life, with the way they are so vehement about this bill.

[PhilDragoo]

[CSM]

Hey Dems,

Keep your laws off my BODY!

[Diver Dave]

A Healthcare Reform bill before our congress-critters who have no idea what's actually in the bill. They haven't read it which raises the question... WHO wrote the bill?

Our critters in Washington have demonstrated that they don't have the intellect to write or comprehend the bill.

Again... WHO wrote the bill?

[Bean Counter]