Skip to comments.Voight: Is Obama creating a civil war in America?
Posted on 08/21/2009 8:37:58 AM PDT by pissant
A Hollywood conservative has headed East. It's "Freedom Concert" time for Jon Voight. The Academy Award winner will join Sean Hannity in Cincinnati and Atlanta this weekend to honor fallen soldiers and present college scholarships to surviving children. Mr. Voight -- a warrior himself in many ways -- has been cogitating about the state of America, meanwhile.
"There's a real question at stake now. Is President Obama creating a civil war in our own country?" Mr. Voight tells Inside the Beltway.
"We are witnessing a slow, steady takeover of our true freedoms. We are becoming a socialist nation, and whoever can't see this is probably hoping it isn't true.
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...
Both sides have been wanting everything for too long.
"I'm fantastic. You're not."
I’m ready, been ready and will always be ready.
we need liberation from Marxist oppression. The people have a perfect right to resist violation of their inalienable rights
Laughable is MSNBC liberals like Maddow hand wring over right wing extremests and ask “How can we stop the hate?” and she does NOT mean stopping the democrats takeover of the economy and our lives. She means shutting up opponents.
Perhaps it’s time to begin clarifying the specific circumstances under which various forms of resistance (e.g., passive, proactive, armed...) would be justified. For example, I would use armed resistance to stop authorities from seizing guns in my home...
Yes! King Obama's radical ideas have put the nail in the coffin. We have been losing our freedom for many years under the guise of making life better for Americans. The worst criminals this Country have ever seen is now in King Obama's Administration. This communists is the worst of the worst our Government has ever put in office.
i have been saying this very same thing for years now....it is long over due...its a shame that it is coming to this as many lives could be lost but when the liberals want to continually play the race card then there can never be any healing to take place...
This fight needs to be taken up in our state legislatures.
State sovereignty is step one.
Step two is refusing to enforce or allow to be enforced, unconstitutional laws.
Step three is defending your state from federal invasion to enforce unconstitutional laws.
They can stop trying to kill us and our country for starters
Let us not hope we go down Celente's road via his predictions...
Sign me up on the side that wants to restore the limited government republic created by our Founders. Now!
Jon Voight for president!
Give em hell Jonas.
Does he have a birth certificate?......................(He played Roosevelt in Pearl Harbor),,,,,,,,,,,,,
Rog is a Red, who knew his liberalism went that far?
I'm safe on board.. (Roger Ebert supports socialism) (Chicago Sun-Times 8/21/2009 Roger Ebert)
Perhaps he is, but if so, he isn’t working alone.
Let’s then surround Chicagograd with our panzers and drive these socialists the hell off our shores!
This also means getting your county sheriff’s on board. They are the top lawmen in each county.
They can kick out the feds (FBI, BATFE, etc) if necessary. They technically must grant permission for feds to be there in the county doing whatever operations they are doing. They are also the ones to go to to get deputized because their jurisdition is the ENTIRE COUNTY, not just one city’s limits.
Predictions of Civil War//2nd American Revolution:
1) White vs Black vs Brown —it will be racial;count on it
2) Constitutionalists vs Statists
3) Most will sit out, only about 10 % will actually fight
4) Total War...no Geneva Convention here..kill or be killed will be the motto
5) Widespread famine....those who only ate organic food will be fighting for scraps that the dogs would even sniff
6) Not a north vs south thing...many conservatives still up north(upstate NY and Rural PA) and too many liberals down south(Raleigh and Northern Virgina)
7) Expect foreign intervention in the name of ‘world stability’
8) new leaders with common sense that no one has ever heard of will emerge..professional politicians will not be trusted
9) possible new boundaries for the US....we may lose California or add on parts of Mexico
10) In the end, the republic survives,many lefties flee to Europe and we rebuild ..
JMO of course...
The first step is to petition the government for redress of our grievances.
My response wasn’t intended to lay out all the tactics I would use to resist, but simply to announce the principle. Everything you said makes perfect sense, but the principle is not futile.
Is it possible that the U.S. will actually break up into smaller regional countries? Are there any history professors or sociology professors here who could explain how that will work out. I’d like to refrain from constant Civil War stuff because War is always an act of aggression and there have been hundreds of countries who dissolved without one side trying to force the other side to just obey. Unless I’m wrong, and that’s where the History Professor could help me out.
....Lincoln, Obama is NOT.
Well I had read early this year of a writer who wrote for the Russian Provda saying this country will break up in a few years time.
“We are becoming a socialist nation, and whoever can’t see this is probably hoping it isn’t true.”
.... only if we allow it.
Obama has to be stonewalled every step, then he will place a heavier need to operate beyond the constitution. In doing that we can hope for an impeachment and life goes on.
# 4 get all illegal wetbacks out of the state you live in.
socialism is soft for comunnism.
The war IS about control of the countryside and their weapons are NAIS, “food safety”, control of agriculture, control of irrigation water, etc. Their goal is rural cleansing. Look at a precinct breakdown red/blue electoral map.
Shutting up opponents, yes, but instead of meaning how can we bridge the divide, what can we do to reach out, she seems almost to be baiting the audience to stop the extremists in order to stop the hate. Wag the dog.
This is a perilous time, and more than ever, the world needs a united and strong America. If, God forbid, we live to see Mr. Obama president, we will live through a socialist era that America has not seen before, and our country will be weakened in every way. -- Jon Voight
Voight's prediction was very accurate.
It seems to me that if Mr. Obama wins the presidential election, then Messrs. Farrakhan, Wright, Ayers and Pfleger will gain power for their need to demoralize this country and help create a socialist America. -- Jon Voight
Remember, Voight can see through Obama, because Obama is a Lefty, and Voight was himself a Lefty in those old hippie days. He has since renounced his misguided Leftism.
Thank you, Jon Voight, for speaking out.
CW II ping
Kinda like wanting ‘Peace’ or ‘lack of opposition’.
Never gonna happen!
Obama and his handlers stay in control by creating faux division in the country. It’s the old divide and conquer. If the country is preoccupied with hating each other (left vs. right, etc.) then their eye is not on Washington, Wall Street, etc.
“Never let a good crisis go to waste”. - Rahm Emanuel
And...if so, what will be the next Ft Sumpter we are suckered into???
Too bad his daughter and husband didn’t (yet) follow in his foot-steps.
I do not think that politics can solve the fundamental division between Free America and he forces of liberal fascism. Our political system and our government are illegitimate. The GOP is only allowed to exist in order to provide an illusion of choice. I do not believe the liberal fascists will allow a peaceful separation. We are at the same point that Germany was in the late 1920s, a very precarious position. Liberal fascists control the government, the media, academia, the legal profession, most major corporations, and most large institutions. With all of that, I still believe that Americans can win.
Thanks for restating my point clearly, these folks are fun to watch when losing and they make taking away freedoms of speech and to bear arms sound like compassion.
WalMart might boycott you
Well I believe it is what he is hoping for. When the shooting starts it will be blamed on the right and we can see the systematic rounding up perse of Republicans,gun owners people who are not worthy of the state.. He wants something to happen so he can suspend the constitution. I know alot of Libs thought Bush would do that and I laughed, but this guy really does have it in him.. Remember the saying “by any means neccesary”.
Good question Mr Voight!
I’m sending this to all my friends and relatives.
I hope other FReepers join me.
“We have been losing our freedom for many years”
77, to be precise.
The way they (NWO) usually do it, they create a crisis, like a world war or a depression, and then “solve” the problem by instituting their agenda, like the U.N. or government social programs and bureaus.
Thats why Rham Emmanuel said, “Never waste a good crisis”. That’s what he meant.
I doubt that an 0bama penny will have any reference to God.
More likely it will read, “In Obama We Trust”
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