Beam me to Planet Gore !
Posted on 09/06/2009 10:31:49 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
SACRAMENTO — State air-quality regulators appear back on track to impose the nation's first broad-based fee on greenhouse gas emissions, potentially costing Californians a little extra to fill their gas tanks, turn up the heat or go out to dinner.
Regulators estimate that overall, the average consumer will pay less than $1.50 a year more once the fee is passed down by energy providers and others that release greenhouse gasses linked to global warming.
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The fee will affect about 250 types of businesses, such as the energy and cement industries, that burn huge quantities of fossil fuels. Together, those account for 85 percent of California's emissions of carbon dioxide — the predominant greenhouse gas.
The fee is expected to initially raise about $50 million a year, starting in mid-2010. At first, industry would pay 12 cents for every ton of carbon dioxide released. Annualized costs spread out among consumers and businesses seem small: 62 cents on utility bills and perhaps 65 cents at the gas pump for economy cars. A supermarket would pay $95, a family restaurant $14 and a 100-person office $7, according to state estimates.
But at 12 cents for every ton released, an oil refinery would pay about $1.3 million a year, and the average cement plant about $200,000.
“Every additional cost adds burden to our already very high cost of doing business in the state,” said Dorothy Rothrock, representing the California Manufacturers and Technology Association.
The Air Resources Board proposed the fee to cover the administrative expensives of implementing its aggressive strategy to curb global warming, regulating a broad swath of society from big-rigs to landfills to air conditioners. There are about 175 employees working on climate change issues associated with the board's campaign.
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Quantify Political Oral Flatulence! Can anyone say Political suicide.
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175 employees working to destroy this state's economy. amazing. and I bet everyone of them is a new hire, while the state augers into the abyss.
Just one more reason to move out of California and for businesses not to locate in California. A bigger bunch of corrupt politicians only exist in the White House. Corrupt Democrats in Sacramento and the incompetent former body builder governor. Dumb and Dumber.
Illegals will be exempt
CA: State fees on greenhouse gas output could be nearIs this just on CO2 or on H2O vapor as well?
How long before a decree out of Washington mandates that the rest us states pay to bail California out to save them from themselves?
“Regulators estimate that overall, the average consumer will pay less than $1.50 a year more once the fee is passed down by energy providers and others that release greenhouse gasses linked to global warming.”
And I believe in the Easter Bunny and Tinker Belle are married.
Dear Lord above, Don’t these people even bother to run the numbers before they print this stuff?
“The fee is expected to initially raise about $50 million a year, starting in mid-2010. At first, industry would pay 12 cents for every ton of carbon dioxide released. Annualized costs spread out among consumers and businesses seem small: 62 cents on utility bills and perhaps 65 cents at the gas pump for economy cars. A supermarket would pay $95, a family restaurant $14 and a 100-person office $7, according to state estimates.”
This will immediately be hiked as soon as it is found out to be “TOO LOW” aka we need more money to run the state.
O2—you have to inhale O2 to make CO2. My Dad always told me that at some point the government would figure out a way to tax air.
He said it is getting nearly impossible to operate there. More telling, he told me that he is being VERY aggressively pursued by other states to move. Nevada in particular.
He is not the first vendor I have out there to tell me this. I don't know why the CA state government doesn't offer incentives for businesses to LEAVE the state, that's what they really want. Save a lot of CO2 that way.
Do yo think that any reasonably intelligent, employed, skilled person has actually deliberately moved to California in the last 10 years?
The general decline of skill and income is starting to catch up with them. It isn’t that they are running out of things to tax, they are running out of income and commerce to tax. It’s a classic death spiral. It couldn’t happen soon enough.
Right. And Social Security was only going to be levied on the first 3000 per year of income, and Medicare was only supposed to cost about 20 billion by now.
Looks like California really does want to return to the wild.
O2—you have to inhale O2 to make CO2.I don't understand ...
/sarc
Thanks!
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Dan Walters piece in the Sac Bee thread.
California factory jobs have disappeared
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2333434/posts
Fools with a shovel super glued to their hands would maybe think about not moving their arms?
Since methane exhibits a stronger greenhouse effect than carbon dioxide, why don’t they tax beans?
Taxing the air we breathe. Who'd have thought that we'd actually see the day our own governments would do such a laughable thing that just a few short generations ago was a joke.
Even worse, who'd have thought that the citizens of this nation would let a government so such a ridiculous, laughable thing?
It doesn't take a whole lot of intelligence to see that- The government of Calipornia has spend above and beyond the atrocious amounts of revenues produced by their slaves (they call themselves taxpayers, because they like to hold on to the illusion that they are somehow "free") and are in desperate need to take even more from their slaves, cutting their living allowances, and removing what the overlords see as excessive, which allows them to indulge in "unhealthy behaviors".
It also doesn't take a whole lot of intelligence to see through the "global warming' B.S. that the government overlords have carefully constructed (to the best of their abilities anyway) as a reason for this reduction of living allowances- which is really for the slaves own benefit, that the slaves will actually live better and prosper from this reduction of living allowances which they are allowed to keep.
This was never about "saving the planet from certain doom", as the great Goracle was proselytizing so vehemently.
It's about creating a vast, bottomless moneypit of revenues that the overlords in government can spend (for our own betterment of course) on whatever whimsical notion they come across in order to create they disneyland-like fantasy alternate reality civilization so many of their favorite science fiction writers have written about, or saw portrayed by their favorite Hollywierdo movie maker, in which every person will be happy and live in a star trek like civilization, no need for money, each a "scientist" of technition of some type all working to gether to solve the many problems they come across as they explore Gods imperfect creation, although they don't really believe in A god, just "Q" people with god-like powers who create things to amuse themselves, at the expense of others who they must rescue.
With these kind of crazy rules no wonder jobs are leaving the state. I do not know how the state is ever going to get out of this mess. I guess this is what the whole country will be like 10 years from now.
Sue the state for green house gases they have failed to contain by not putting out the fires.
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