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Errors in Corsi's rebuttal of the Ebay birth certificate
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Posted on 09/07/2009 4:24:22 PM PDT by conimbricenses

I make no determination of the validity of the so-called ebay birth certificate that purports to show Obama was born in Mombasa, Kenya. Jerome Corsi has concluded that the document is likely a forgery at this article though:

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=108773

While this may end up being proven upon closer examination of the claimed document, the reasons Corsi has listed for making this determination are factually flawed and need to be reexamined.

OBJECTION: The Ebay certificate identifies the hospital as "Coast Province General Hospital." Corsi considers this suspicious, because it is usually referred to as "Coast Provincial" in Kenya.

TRUTH: "Coast Province General Hospital" was the name used for the hospital in official British Government documents in 1961. This is proven by the British Colonial Office's Report on the Colony and Protectorate of Kenya for 1960, which uses the name and includes a description of the number of beds in the hospital.

OBJECTION: Mombasa is said to have been a part of Zanzibar until 1963

TRUTH: Mombasa was NOT part of Zanzibar, but rather the British Protectorate of East Africa. Zanzibar - an island off the coast of Africa - was part of this same protectorate. Historically, the sultanate of Zanzibar owned a 10 mile strip of coast on the mainland that included Mombasa. When Britain gained protectorate control of Zanzibar in 1890 it obtained a permanent lease on this strip of land (similar to Hong Kong). Mombasa even became the capital of British East Africa until 1905 before it was moved to Nairobi and from the 1890's until independence, Mombasa was under British control. The only connection to Zanzibar was the lease, and one of the conditions of Zanzibar's independence at the same time as Kenya's was ceding any claim to the leased land to the new country of Kenya. If you want proof that Mombasa was part of the Kenya colony, just look at any historical map before Kenya's independence.

OBJECTION: It is claimed that Mombasa was not part of a Coast Province of Kenya because of the Zanzibar issue.

TRUTH: In addition to refuting the Zanzibar claim, historical British documents do indeed prove that Mombasa was the capital of a region that was called the "Seyidie Province" or "Southern Coastal Province" from 1905 onward. As the Colonial Office report linked above indicates, this region was known as the "Coast Province" by 1960

OBJECTION: It is claimed that there is no documentation that the doctor on the ebay certificate was at the Coast Province hospital.

TRUTH: While no document tying Dr. James O.W. Ang'awa to the hospital has emerged yet, he was definitely practicing medicine in Mombasa in 1961.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: barackobama; birthcertificate; birthers; bloggersandpersonal; certifigate; colb; corsi; hussein; kenya; mombasa; obama

1 posted on 09/07/2009 4:24:22 PM PDT by conimbricenses
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To: conimbricenses

Thanks for the info —


2 posted on 09/07/2009 4:28:34 PM PDT by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: conimbricenses

3 posted on 09/07/2009 4:29:49 PM PDT by devane617 (Republicans first strategy should be taking over the MSM. Without it we are doomed.)
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To: devane617

Is this some kind of gayness test?


4 posted on 09/07/2009 4:31:40 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: devane617

WOW! That penguin is so cute...


5 posted on 09/07/2009 4:33:10 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO Foreign Nationals as our President!!)
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To: LucyT

ping


6 posted on 09/07/2009 4:33:28 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: devane617

I am so stealing that.


7 posted on 09/07/2009 4:35:35 PM PDT by El Sordo
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To: SatinDoll

There’s a penguin in that photo?


8 posted on 09/07/2009 4:38:03 PM PDT by newfreep ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." - P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: devane617
Why are the two ugly girls up front? Shouldn't they be in the back?
9 posted on 09/07/2009 4:39:52 PM PDT by jarofants
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To: jarofants

It was so well crafted as to make you ask why....


10 posted on 09/07/2009 4:43:24 PM PDT by devane617 (Republicans first strategy should be taking over the MSM. Without it we are doomed.)
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To: conimbricenses

Thanks.


11 posted on 09/07/2009 4:45:04 PM PDT by bgill (The evidence simply does not support the official position of the Obama administration)
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To: bgill

What?


12 posted on 09/07/2009 4:46:53 PM PDT by jarofants
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To: devane617
For some reason I had to re-look at the pic to see the penguin after i read the caption? Surely I am the only one who fell for that, right?
13 posted on 09/07/2009 5:01:11 PM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature
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To: Jet Jaguar; Fred Nerks; null and void; stockpirate; george76; PhilDragoo; Candor7; BP2; ...
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14 posted on 09/07/2009 5:07:49 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: jarofants

Uglys up front was the first thing I noticed they might be English or other Euro-Trash; there is also one in the back; severe case of random ugliness.


15 posted on 09/07/2009 5:10:37 PM PDT by ntmxx (I am not so sure about this misdirection!)
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To: devane617

What penguin?


16 posted on 09/07/2009 5:36:48 PM PDT by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck. (Let them eat arugula!))
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To: devane617
A penguin on a helipad is more interesting than 0bama’s birth certificate search, that is for sure.
17 posted on 09/07/2009 5:46:58 PM PDT by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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To: conimbricenses

Thanks SO MUCH for your last two posts ! We REALLY need people like you who are diligent and thorough researchers here at Free Republic....I feel badly that you rec’d more replies from the helicopter photo than your well researched article ! That’s what happens when you compete with young half-naked women ! Thx again and look forward to more valid info !


18 posted on 09/07/2009 5:52:49 PM PDT by rocco55
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To: conimbricenses
I expect this one, like the others, to be shut down. The determination shown by Hussein through his lawyers and the fact that he came up through the Chicago machine should indicate that the judge has received sơme offer he cannot refuse and will rule accordingly.
19 posted on 09/07/2009 6:00:09 PM PDT by arthurus ("If you don't believe in shooting abortionists, don't shoot an abortionist." -Ann C.)
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To: jarofants

You guys are really funny, there is nothing there.


20 posted on 09/07/2009 6:03:47 PM PDT by mel
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To: conimbricenses

Very good work.


21 posted on 09/07/2009 6:08:03 PM PDT by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them or they more like we used to be?)
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To: All

JB Williams

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/12999

(snip)
Every member of the Supreme Court, every member of congress, every member of the Joint Chiefs, most members of the DOD, CIA, FBI, Secret Service and state run media, ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, PBS, NPR, MSNBC, Fox and print news, knows that Barack Hussein Obama does NOT meet Article II – Section I constitutional requirements for the office he holds. By his own biography, there is NO way he can pass the test. The hard evidence is so far beyond overwhelming, it is ridiculous.

(snip)
But not ONE member of America’s most powerful people will dare confront Obama and his anti-American cabal on the subject. The Constitution does NOT stand.

(snip)
Half of the people you expect to stop this insanity are quiet co-conspirators in the silent coup. The other half is paralyzed by fear, motivated only by political self-preservation.

(Snip)
Americans keep asking what they can do because they see that none of their leaders are doing anything to stop the demise of their beloved country. It’s the right question, because those leaders are NOT going to stop this thing.

(Snip)
WHO WILL SAVE FREEDOM?
A brave few… This is how it was in the beginning, how it has always been and how it will be.

(Snip)
DR. ORLY TAITZ, Phil Berg and Gary Kreep, ALL OF WHOM HAVE MADE DEFENDING THE CONSTITUTION AND THE AMERICAN WAY OF LIFE A PERSONAL AMBITION, IN THE ABSENCE OF ANY CONSTITUTION LEADERSHIP.

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A PRECIOUS FEW, BUT THEY EXIST… and the walls are indeed closing in on Obama and his evil cabal. IF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE FAIL TO GET BEHIND THESE BRAVE FEW WHO ARE SEEKING PEACEFUL REDRESS, ALL THE PEACEFUL OPTIONS WILL EVAPORATE AS IF THEY NEVER EXISTED. WE WILL RETURN TO A PRE-1776 AMERICA OVERNIGHT..

Do YOU fear Obama?
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/12999

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A precious few, indeed. Lets get behind those few brave patriots who are out there in the trenches every day working to prove Obama’s inelgibility:

REMEMBER ALINSKY’S ‘RULES FOR RADICALS:

Rule 5: Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon. It’s hard to counterattack ridicule, and it infuriates the opposition, which then reacts to your advantage.

Rule 8: Keep the pressure on. Use different tactics and actions and use all events of the period for your purpose. “The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition. It is this that will cause the opposition to react to your advantage.”

Rule 11: Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, polarize it. Don’t try to attack abstract corporations or bureaucracies. Identify a responsible individual. Ignore attempts to shift or spread the blame.
“One of the criteria for picking the target is the target’s vulnerability ... the other important point in the choosing of a target is that it must be a personification, not something general and abstract.”
According to Alinsky, the organizer — especially a paid organizer from outside — must first overcome suspicion and establish credibility. Next the organizer must begin the task of agitating: rubbing resentments, fanning hostilities, and searching out controversy.

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There are many lawyers and armchair quarterbacks out there who do nothing but sit around and bloviatate, tell us what great lawyers they are, what SHOULD be done- and attack Dr. Orly Taitz. If they are so great, why don’t they get out there and DO something? Where are their clients? Where are their lawsuits?
They condemn Dr. Orly for refusing other lawyer’s help. They laugh at her and ridicule her for her ‘mistakes’. Is it any wonder she refuses their help?

And maybe, just maybe, she doesn’t want another attorney in on her work because she fears him hogging the glory when the usuper is brought down- as the egocentric, bloviating Leo Denofrio would surely do. I don’t blame her one bit on this!
Dr. Orly has put her life’s blood into this fight. SHE HAS MADE DEFENDING THE CONSTITUTION AND THE AMERICAN WAY OF LIFE A PERSONAL AMBITION, IN THE ABSENCE OF ANY CONSTITUTION LEADERSHIP FROM COWARDLY REPUBLICANS AND THE SCOTUS.

Dr. Orly is the ONLY one out there in the trenches EVERY day hitting Obama on multiple fronts and trying to bring him down. It is reported that she is more than $8,000 in debt from using her own funds for expenses in her flights across the U.S for interviews, speeches, serving papers and meeting with officials.
She has even gone to Isreal and Russia to spread the message about Obama’s inelgibility!

She states the case expertly, including the bc and natural born citizen aspect, when not abused by the U.S. state-controlled media. http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/132880

Sure, Dr. Orly makes mistakes. We all do. But Dr. Orly is no dummy. How many of us could go to a foreign country, learn 5 languages, establish a successful dental practice, a successful real estate business AND pass the California state bar- one of the hardest in the U.S. to pass?
She may be a ‘mail order’ attorney and not a Harvard lawyer, but she IS an attorney with all the rights and privilages of a Harvard lawyer nevertheless!
The point is; she has the passion, the zeal, the courage of her convictions and the love of America and its freedoms (unlike many of our ‘great’ attorneys and ‘patriots’ who criticize her) that will not let her give up!
She is exhausted. She is nervous. She is frustrated. It is reported that she gets by on 4-5 hours of sleep per night, and her family is very worried about her health- as well as her safety.
She makes mistakes. But she will NOT give up. She will keep on until she gets it right.
So let’s get behind this great little Russian refugee and great American patriot.
Stop tearing her apart. The Obots don’t need our help.
The obots are scared to death of this little lady and her determination. That’s why they come out in droves all over the net on forums, chat rooms and even the national news to attack and ridicule.

God bless this American patriot and keep her safe.


22 posted on 09/07/2009 6:13:19 PM PDT by patriot08
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To: patriot08; Fred Nerks; null and void; stockpirate; george76; PhilDragoo; Candor7; BP2; ...

Penguin ping...


23 posted on 09/07/2009 6:48:28 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 229 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: null and void; BP2

more information:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2334186/posts?page=29#29


24 posted on 09/07/2009 6:54:38 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: devane617

no thanks for the thread killer.


25 posted on 09/07/2009 6:55:32 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: Fred Nerks

I have no idea if this bc is the real thing or not, but, I sure hope so. I appreciate the information posted. I do not appreciate the photo interjected into this thread.


26 posted on 09/07/2009 7:07:27 PM PDT by Catsrus
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To: Catsrus; conimbricenses

ditto that. Thanks for the great work, con.


27 posted on 09/07/2009 7:26:51 PM PDT by the crow (typical and bitter)
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To: conimbricenses

What he said against the BC was a joke. Anyone following this knew that.


28 posted on 09/07/2009 7:28:36 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: conimbricenses

Great post. Thanks for sharing your research.


29 posted on 09/07/2009 7:34:42 PM PDT by Faith
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To: mel

I could drink a couple of them pretty. Would take at least a 12 pack.


30 posted on 09/07/2009 8:58:19 PM PDT by jarofants
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