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Secret footage specifies chaos minutes after the Oklahoma City bombing
Daily Oklahoman ^ | September 27, 2009 | Nolan Clay

Posted on 09/27/2009 8:36:46 AM PDT by Never on my watch

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To: UriĀ’el-2012; joe fonebone
It's not *my* report. And it is a lot more objective than a lot of what you see out there. I've seen pictures of the blast crater. It was partially filled with debris from the building's progressive collapse [1] [2] . There was a lot of damage to surrounding buildings including glass blown out up to 10-12 blocks away. There were 17 closer buildings with structural damage.
61 posted on 09/28/2009 4:41:32 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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To: dynoman

Please forgive me if i infered this was your report. That was not my intention. It is just that in all of this, there has NEVER been a published picture showing a blast crater. As a matter of fact, the only picture i have ever seen clearly showed no blast crater, with rescue crews standing where it should have been. That picture has since disappeared.....


62 posted on 09/29/2009 4:30:26 AM PDT by joe fonebone (I am racist, hear me roar....I don't give a crap anymore....)
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To: Since 2009-07-21; Never on my watch

I was indoors in bed after a surgery, about 8 miles away (in Moore) It rattled my windows.


63 posted on 09/29/2009 12:10:28 PM PDT by beefree
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To: beefree

That’s interesting, I was in the hospital recovering from surgery when 9/11 happened. It is hard for me to imagine a time that I felt more helpless.

My wife’s cousin was on the 104th floor of the north tower. She was coming to visit me when the tower fell. Under medication, hurting from the surgery, and overwhelmed by the events, I was not much comfort to her.


64 posted on 09/29/2009 12:48:09 PM PDT by Never on my watch (The lunatics are in the White House - meet me on the dark side of the Moon.)
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To: Never on my watch

Were you stationed at Tinker AFB in ‘95? I was on the base on 9/11 and felt very vulnerable, as I feared we might also be a target. Is your wife okay? I imagine you both experienced PTSD from that day, God bless y’all, stay safe.


65 posted on 09/29/2009 12:58:35 PM PDT by beefree
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To: beefree
“Were you stationed at Tinker AFB in ‘95?”

Yes, moved from OK shortly after the May 3 ‘99 Tornado. Sheesh - I'm a catastrophe magnet. ;)

We're fine. Thanks for your concern. Wounds heal, but we won't forget.

66 posted on 09/29/2009 1:08:31 PM PDT by Never on my watch (The lunatics are in the White House - meet me on the dark side of the Moon.)
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To: Never on my watch

“I’m a catastrophe magnet.” ME TOO!!

This is uncanny. My husband and I, with God and our pets, were hiding in a closet during May 3, 99 tornado. (Kids were out of town at the time) Our house was demolished, he got a 1/2 inch scrape on his leg, I got a dime-sized bruise on my arm...the other good news is that we had full-replacement insurance, moved out of Moore and now live on beautiful 5 acres in the country. My 14 year old cat still has trauma during storms, though. The love shown by others at the time was the best thing to come from it.


67 posted on 09/29/2009 1:21:09 PM PDT by beefree
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To: doug from upland; Never on my watch
Andreas Carl Strassmeier. Carol Howe. John Doe Number 2.

And the pre-blast Fed flurry and the guilty pre-knowledge of some who awaited a different outcome.

The FBI and ATF may not always be right, but they are never wrong.

And Ramzi Yousef and Terry Nichols--"he was just a guy in my neighborhood who did something when I was eight years old"--

There was an Indy Star writer who also risked all to investigate.

Case not closed.

68 posted on 09/29/2009 1:23:50 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Kenya)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar; Never on my watch
...three middle-eastern looking men...

...six swarthy men of Middle Eastern extraction...

Should we split the difference?

69 posted on 09/29/2009 1:29:32 PM PDT by TankerKC (No Taxation Without Lubrication)
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To: beefree

You too have been through a lot.

“The love shown by others at the time was the best thing to come from it.”

I wish, REALLY wish, the “Oklahoma Standard” was the way our Nation responded to disasters. After OKC bombing and the tornados, Okies just picked themselves up, dusted themselves off and then looked for someone to help. I don’t remember anyone whining for government help. Churches set up shelters and served food. People used pick-up trucks as ambulances and offered their homes to those who lost theirs. I don’t remember ANY looting.

Compare that to Katrina.


70 posted on 09/29/2009 1:33:30 PM PDT by Never on my watch (The lunatics are in the White House - meet me on the dark side of the Moon.)
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To: TankerKC

I don’t even know what swarthy means.

I heard “three” on the scanner.


71 posted on 09/29/2009 1:38:59 PM PDT by Never on my watch (The lunatics are in the White House - meet me on the dark side of the Moon.)
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To: joe fonebone

UriÂ’el-2012 said “your report”. Anyway I just looked at two pictures of the crater again, it is pretty full of debris from the building collapse and covered with a tarp. The FBI didn’t excavate the crater until day 11 or so, it was filled right back up within a day so other work could continue. Here’s a document that has the entire timeline;

http://www.terrorisminfo.mipt.org/pdf/okcfr_App_F.pdf


72 posted on 09/29/2009 4:05:48 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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To: Never on my watch

***After OKC bombing and the tornados, Okies just picked themselves up, dusted themselves off and then looked for someone to help. I don’t remember anyone whining for government help. ****

The hand wringers were the East coast and West coast papers wondering how those red neck hicks in “flyover country” could cope with something like this!

The handwringers didn’t realize that Oklahoma has had years of tornado disasters and were well prepared even for this!


73 posted on 09/29/2009 4:19:57 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (THIS SPACE FOR RENT! cheap!)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

could you post one of those pictures, please


74 posted on 09/30/2009 4:06:32 AM PDT by joe fonebone (I am racist, hear me roar....I don't give a crap anymore....)
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To: joe fonebone

***could you post one of those pictures, please***

What pictures?


75 posted on 09/30/2009 10:47:10 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (You talkin' ta me? YOU TALKIN TO ME! Well just who are you talkin' to?)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Opppsss..............i hit reply to the wrong post...sorry


76 posted on 09/30/2009 10:48:23 AM PDT by joe fonebone (I am racist, hear me roar....I don't give a crap anymore....)
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To: dynoman

could you post the pictures that show the crater, please


77 posted on 09/30/2009 10:48:57 AM PDT by joe fonebone (I am racist, hear me roar....I don't give a crap anymore....)
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