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Leo's Blog - Are they going to say there is no Long Form BC??
Vanity | 9-26-2009 | Frantzie

Posted on 09/27/2009 9:19:59 PM PDT by Frantzie

http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/2009/09/26/terrik-investigation-part-2-oip-staff-attorney-linden-joestings-response-to-terriks-appeal-appears-to-confirm-that-the-doh-maintains-amended-vital-records-for-president-obama/#comments

Descarte Says:

September 27, 2009 at 3:31 am Good work.Interesting article covered by Phil at RSOL.Even more interesting are some of the comments. http://www.therightsideoflife.com/?p=7364

[Ed. Holy Crap! Is this the new mantra? Are the main stream media, as of September 24 2009 now going to be telling the public that Obama has no long form BC?

From the Colorado Independent:

By Joseph Boven 9/24/09 3:40 PM

According to billboard owner Phil Wolf, Denver’s “birther boards” will go up mid-day today at Kipling and I-70 on the north side of frontage road. West-Denver commuters will be treated to compelling over-sized double-sided evidence that Americans love a distraction.

The ominous and compelling message: “Where is the birth certificate?”

The billboards are the work of talk radio host Peter Boyles, World Net Daily, and Mr. Wolf. They are part of nationwide right-wing campaign to force Pres. Obama to produce his original long-form birth certificate.

Experts have repeated time and again that the documents presented to the country and campaign officials are real and legitimate documents and that a “long-form certificate” does not exist.

"Experts have repeated time and again...that a 'long-form certificate' does not exist?"

WTF? Is this direct proof that we are getting somewhere in Hawaii? WTF? Hold onto your hats, your children, your passports... I think we are leaving Kansas for real Toto. I don't recall anyone ever admitting that Obama didn't have a long form BC. Something tells me the TerriK investigation is to blame for this new mantra which appears to have been dropped as a trial balloon on Sept 24. Get to work on the Colorado Independent. We need this story to be clarified. ]


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To: Frantzie

Sorry in advance for a moderate derail, but there has to be a lot of Hawaiian born FReepers out there. Many, if not most of them were born around the same time as Obama. So here’s the idea. Order a copy of your own long-form birth certificate from the Hawaiian government.

Once we get 50 to a hundred souls with their own long form birth certificates — NOT COLBS — we can come up with a campaign “Here’s mine! Where’s yours?”

That would neatly sidestep all the lies and confusion regarding what Hawaii does and does not give out, and who or who cannot get it.


61 posted on 09/28/2009 2:48:21 AM PDT by Ronin (Nemo me impune lacesset)
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To: jws3sticks
Gee wiz, I have to go all the way to Kenya to see my presidents birthplace? That sucks!
62 posted on 09/28/2009 3:07:31 AM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: Ronin

It’s not like Obama’s gonna say “Oh, jeesh, you guys wanted to see that? I just forgot! Here it is!”

It either doesn’t exist, which would indicate he was not born in Hawaii, or there is some very damning info on there, like the name of his real father, or who knows, some congenital defect or something.

I am more and more convinced he was not born in Hawaii. Either way, his father was never an American.

He is ineligible to be president of the United States.


63 posted on 09/28/2009 3:08:02 AM PDT by djf (I ain't got time to read all the whines!!!)
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To: Frantzie

Another possibility is they might be Jewish.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

They were gone before the ACORN take down.


64 posted on 09/28/2009 3:18:25 AM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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To: LucyT
They have fufilled their purpose, made lists of naes that will be presented to Jim Rob by Homeland Security, so they can ID everyone of those who stridently and effectively oppose the Obama Junta. Whether those on the list get a knock on the door in the night is a good question.

I am ready for them. They will get no where without due process and a reporter ready to reveal their chicanery.

We have again won the battle for FR. Jim needs to keep us informed as to whether the feds are rattling his cage.

I really miss the Trolls. I got ann education from them on how the Obajunta thinks, and how they manipulate reality in ways which are both subtle and exceedingly coarse.

Thank you Trolls. Return when you are given another Obot contract for more paychecks.

65 posted on 09/28/2009 4:45:58 AM PDT by Candor7 (The effective weapons against Fascism are ridicule, derision, and truth (Member NRA)
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To: MHGinTN
I called the Hawaiian Vital Reords dept. about another matter concerning the forms they print CoLBs on and while talking with a pleasant lady I asked about whether one could obtain a photostatic copy of an original BC, and I mentioned that someone had said no original existed any longer. The lady was amused that someone would tell such a whopper since the state of Hawaii spends a considerable sum each year to keep original documents ina controlled environment for safekeeping.

A principal function of governments is record-keeping.

Governments archive everything -- unless someone is engaged in a cover-up, and illegally removes or alters something -- like Obama's top terrorism and intelligence adviser, John O. Brennan, did to Obama's passport files.

66 posted on 09/28/2009 6:01:45 AM PDT by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: Frantzie; wintertime
They were on ACORN’s payroll. The fact you said that they disappeared from education threads makes me wonder. I wonder how many shills during the election on the blogosphere were paid ACORN employees.

What do you bet that they are public school teachers on the computers in the teachers lounge or even their classrooms between classes. In our local junior and senior highschools, the teachers work only 3 or the 6 periods of the day and have plenty of time to blog for Obama on the public dime.

67 posted on 09/28/2009 6:03:32 AM PDT by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: Spunky
Several weeks ago I saw a thread where Obama said the original burned in a fire

Yep, and its ashes scattered out to sea along with granny... ;-)


68 posted on 09/28/2009 6:04:42 AM PDT by thecraw (Follower of Jesus...American...Tennessean...Birther! You Betcha!)
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To: Vendome

Bookmarked — Thanks


69 posted on 09/28/2009 6:08:10 AM PDT by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: Uncle Chip

I once point out that they were posting during school hours. They stopped doing that.


70 posted on 09/28/2009 6:25:25 AM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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To: Vendome; 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

Good post. Even though you’re a wacko for not believing the KOS COLB.

Just kidding, vendome. Guess that makes me a wacko, too.

What is amazing about this is that any discussion of Barack’s birth is similar to talking about some historic manuscript of which only fragments are rumored to exist or have been recovered.

A real example, we have more *contemporaneous* supporting copies of the New Testament text, written almost two thousand years ago, than copies of Obama’s birth certificate. We have real scrolls discovered in a cave in Qumran to verify OT sources that predate the birth of Christ and yet

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we can find no existing long form of Obama’s birth either in Hawaii, Canada, Kenya, Parts Unknown or wherever in the heck he was in August 1961, just 48 years ago???

Color me more than skeptical.

See similar sentiment here
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2334832/posts?page=13#13


71 posted on 09/28/2009 7:28:34 AM PDT by Sparko ("Barack Hussein Obama He said Red, Yellow, Black or White All are equal in His sight. Mmm, mmm, mmm")
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To: danamco

Yes...I listened to some of these radio broadcasts...VERY
interesting...exposing the EVIL GAG ORDERED media would be wonderful...does anyone if this will go anywhere ?


72 posted on 09/28/2009 7:49:29 AM PDT by rocco55
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To: thecraw

LOL!


73 posted on 09/28/2009 9:07:44 AM PDT by Spunky (You are free to make choices, but not free from the consequences)
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To: LucyT

I just read new information on Leo’s site, maybe Stanley Ann Dunham was a British subject by marriage before the usurper was born, and he may still be British, European (E.U), Indonesian citizen. I think they also should go after his sister’s B.C. records from Hawaii yet she was born in Indonesia!!!


74 posted on 09/28/2009 9:59:10 AM PDT by danamco
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... keeping up.... check out #74.

But... where's the evidence she was married to 0bama, Senior?

75 posted on 09/28/2009 10:25:55 AM PDT by LucyT ("The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money." - M.Thatcher)
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To: Sparko

Well it’s not like I am asking for two golden tablets with inscriptions on them or DNA from some white guy that predates written history in North America.


76 posted on 09/28/2009 10:30:49 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: thecraw
You may have seen something a mysterious fire that magically burned only a very small section of the house, which happened to be the area containing Barry O.'s Birth Certificate. Here, Let me repeat my post(and yes I know you don't believe it.)
Let them claim there is no long form.
 
1st.  They and everyone has said all along the COLB is an abstract.  That means there is a long form.
 
2nd.  Hawaii already said they have seen Barry O.'s vital records and issued two statements - blah, blah, blah, right?
 
3rd.  Barry O. never had to show his long form BC ever, in his life, for anything?  Like obtaining a passport.  That one document is better than a drivers license.  It saying to the world you are who is contained in the passport document, which is based on an investigation of your background and YOU MUST provide a Birth Certificate as foundational proof of who YOU say you are.  From there the State Department does their background check on you and if you are who you say you are with no ammendments, modifications or whatever to your identity they issue it clean. 
 
Most adults can go to a desk or filing cabinet in his house and produce a birth certificate in a few minutes?
 

Barry O. tried to pass of something that was inconsistent with what the rest of have and know to be a “Birth Certificate”.

The so called COLB has many flaws with it:

  • His father’s race could never have been listed as “African”.  That was not the nomenclature at all, in the 1960’s.  So that begins the suspicion of a fraudulent document.
  •  The COLB is also cropped in many of the pictures that claim it is a scan.  If it is a scan, why not leave the document and size intact?
  • The COLB also has no artifacts such paper folds.  A scan does not make those disappear and in fact will highlight them.
  • The COLB that is scanned mysteriously does not show the Seal of Hawaii.  Why?  Because it was computer generated and not scanned.  Guess they forgot to add that back in.
  • More over, many of us are concerned and want to know why he wasted time producing a document that is inconsistent with what we know a Birth Certificate looks like.

 The best part and even more confusing is why he didn't release any of the three Birth Certificates we know already existed before 2007.

  • His kindergarten records and the BC, that should be there, have mysteriously disappeared.
  • The BC he used to get into college, apply for loans and most definitely used for his passport. That wasn't available?
  • Why couldn't he just present the one he found among his mother's belongings upon her death.   He waxed on and wondered about it and his father in one of his books.  Why not post that one?

Those were most certainly BC’s and not a COLB. There is no reason to create confusion but, for the fact he is hiding something. That something will be discovered, though and this is a long process.

“I discovered this article, folded away among my birth certificate and old vaccination forms, when I was in high school. It’s a short piece, with a photograph of him. No mention is made of my mother or me, and I’m left to wonder whether the omission was intentional on my father’s part, in anticipation of his long departure. Perhaps the reporter failed to ask personal questions, intimidated by my father’s imperious manner; or perhaps it was an editorial decision, not part of the simple story that they were looking for. I wonder, too, whether the omission caused a fight between my parents.”

From “Dreams From My Father” (Pg. 26 last paragraph)

So with all these Birth Certificates lying around, why did he feel it necessary to produce a "Certification of Live Birth" that is inconsistent with a Birth Certificate and wholly lacking all of the information you would find, in you know, a Birth Certificate?

He seemed to have some emotional attachment to the Birth Certificate found among his mother’s belongings.  Why wouldn’t he just slap that one up, for all the world to see?

It seemed important that he found a document that is called a “Birth Certificate” and it is highly unlikely he would not know what one looks like.

Hope no one brings up some house fire that vaporized his BC.  That was in 1972 and none of the documents listed here would have been affected by that “fishy” event.

 
 
 

77 posted on 09/28/2009 10:34:53 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: djf

Really? There is a coffee table in the White House. He could just say “Oh, there it is”.

Hillary can even coach him on how to place it, exactly.


78 posted on 09/28/2009 10:36:24 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Sparko

I know, I’m crazy like that.

Now where are those meds?...


79 posted on 09/28/2009 10:37:19 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: danamco

Cold you do me a favor and provide the link. I cannot find it?

Thanks.


80 posted on 09/28/2009 10:37:51 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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