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Real hope: U.S. accelerates monster bunker busting bombs project
Debka.com ^ | September 28, 2009

Posted on 09/29/2009 5:03:25 PM PDT by honestabe010

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To: sam_paine
Missed it by that much =
41 posted on 09/29/2009 5:45:37 PM PDT by forYourChildrenVote4Bush (Today, July 16th I no longer donate money for Israel)
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To: forYourChildrenVote4Bush

I hope that we are better a secrets than this. I hope that these stories are bs and that we already have the buster in service.
A really dirty nuc delivered on site would be one way to neutralize the plant.


42 posted on 09/29/2009 5:50:36 PM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: GonzoGOP

Like the way you think!

Remember when the israelies took out the syrian nuke sites? The syrans were so ashamed they claimed they did it themselves by accident...at first.


43 posted on 09/29/2009 5:53:20 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: Evil Slayer

We has something better! The B53 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B53_nuclear_bomb

They are getting old, so time to “use them or loose them”.


44 posted on 09/29/2009 5:55:11 PM PDT by CapnJack
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To: Candor7

Won’t the fallout from the material we’re destroying render the place too hot to re-occupy?


45 posted on 09/29/2009 5:59:20 PM PDT by I-ambush (I didn't think, I never dreamed, that I would be around to see it all come true-McCartney and Wings)
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To: I-ambush

Maybe, but doubtful.


46 posted on 09/29/2009 6:03:50 PM PDT by Candor7 (The effective weap<p>ons against Fascism are ridicule, derision, and truth (Member NRA)
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To: honestabe010

Do a double decker - First one at T-1; Second one 30 minutes later with same GPS co-ordinates.


47 posted on 09/29/2009 6:13:55 PM PDT by MarkT
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To: honestabe010

Seems kinda late for this.


48 posted on 09/29/2009 6:14:09 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: marron

Maybe the Saudis will do it themselves. Wouldn’t that be interesting?


49 posted on 09/29/2009 6:15:06 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: honestabe010
and the reason we don't use a bomb encased in a tungsten ballistic missile is???
50 posted on 09/29/2009 6:22:25 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: honestabe010
the first 15-ton super bunker-buster bomb

Fifteen tons
What do you get....

If you see me comin', better step aside
A lot of men didn't, a lot of men died
One fist of iron, the other of steel
If the right one don't get you, then the left one will

51 posted on 09/29/2009 6:25:35 PM PDT by csvset
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To: Right Wing Assault
Get some better engineering and maybe they can get it down to 60.0918575 meters

They are probably already there. Most likely they have factored in the extra weight that will be added when our guys paint "This one's for you Imadinnerjacket!" on the side of it. The extra 0.0000000002 kg of paint weight should get your additional 0.0018575 meters.

52 posted on 09/29/2009 6:28:18 PM PDT by 2111USMC
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To: HiTech RedNeck
"Non-nuclear does have the virtue of not leaving the area radioactively hot. So ground forces can come right in without waiting."

LOL!!! Natanz has a couple of 30,000 square foot underground enrichment centrifuge facilities. Blasting both of those open would release huge quantities of UF6, (gaseous Uranium HexaFluoride).

UF6 is not only radioactive, but extremely toxic -- and one of the world's most corrosive materials.

No one would be charging in there anytime soon after the (conventional explosive) bombing!

53 posted on 09/29/2009 6:38:39 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: La Lydia
It should be a one-time, surgical strike back to the stone age for ALL their nuke and missile sights. Not a warning shot, an all-hell-breaks-loose and nothing is left but some smoldering ruins. Surgical in the sense of precision and speed. They have had YEARS to shape up. The part about the Saudi's giving the Israelis the go-ahead makes perfect sense to me. I am sure they don't want that craziness right on their flank, anymore than the Israelis do.

You're forgetting that for liberals, military action isn't a means to disable the military capabilities of an opponent and decapitate their political and command structure, rather it's a form of communication. We will hit Iran at one site and then BO will appear on TV or before the UN explaining that Iran should have now received "the message". Watch.

54 posted on 09/29/2009 6:44:29 PM PDT by gura (R-MO)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

True. But if it’s hot enough, what do you even need ground forces to come in for at all?


55 posted on 09/29/2009 6:45:58 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: gura

If the Israelis do it, how likely do you think they are to trust him and go along with his reservations? I think they would be more inclined to do what needs to be done.


56 posted on 09/29/2009 6:50:49 PM PDT by La Lydia
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To: La Lydia

Since Bibi is in charge, they won’t mess around. They know they’ll have a small window between when they start and when the the furor over their action grows strong enough that they have to stop.


57 posted on 09/29/2009 6:57:13 PM PDT by gura (R-MO)
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To: Candor7; All
The concept is not to use the explosive to destroy the facility outright, but to disrupt the internal structure so it collapses on itself.

The weight is the entire weapon, which has quite a bit of technology involved internally to function correctly after penetration begins.

58 posted on 09/29/2009 7:00:25 PM PDT by Pistolshot (Brevity: Saying a lot, while saying very little.)
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To: honestabe010

60 meters. 200 feet, more or less.

Is this into dirt, gravel, or rock? Big big difference, and IIRC, the facility is in a mountian, which would mean it’s probably rock.


59 posted on 09/29/2009 7:17:17 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: gura

Pathetic that I have more faith in the Israelis to do what needs to be done for the world than I do in my own government. Pathetic, too, that I am in position of having to rely on the President of France to represent and defend my views regarding the Iranians.


60 posted on 09/29/2009 7:18:49 PM PDT by La Lydia
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