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Tom DeLay: Retired Dancer, Birther Ally
CBS News ^ | October 7, 2009 | Brian Montopoli

Posted on 10/08/2009 5:41:46 AM PDT by Zakeet

Former House majority leader Tom Delay, who last night dropped out of ABC's "Dancing With The Stars," has once again expressed skepticism that President Obama is a citizen of the United States.

That aligns DeLay, a Republican once known as "The Hammer," with the so-called "birther" movement. The birthers' claims have repeatedly been shown to be illegitimate.

Newsweek noted in an interview with DeLay that he "got into some trouble for saying on TV that you weren't sure President Obama was born in the United States."

"What I said was, to answer a question from Chris Matthews, I said: Why wouldn't the president of the United States show the American people his birth certificate?," DeLay responded. "You have to show a birth certificate to play Little League baseball. It's a question that should be answered. It's in the Constitution that you have to be a natural-born citizen of the United States to be president."

Asked Newsweek: "Do you think he isn't a citizen?"

"I have no idea," said DeLay.

(Excerpt) Read more at cbsnews.com ...


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KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; birther; dancing; delay; imom; mysteryfreak; obroma; tomdelay
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There really are some valid reasons why Obozo hasn't produced a birth certificate.

1 posted on 10/08/2009 5:41:47 AM PDT by Zakeet
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To: Zakeet

“FREE THE LONG FORM!”


2 posted on 10/08/2009 5:42:47 AM PDT by Dryman ("FREE THE LONG FORM!")
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To: Zakeet

Asked Newsweek: “Do you think he isn’t a citizen?”

“I have no idea,” said DeLay.
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and nor do the rest of us...


3 posted on 10/08/2009 5:44:07 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Zakeet

I’m suspecting that when his Marxist mentors burned his past, they got to his birth certificate as well. It’s not in Hawaii’s file drawers any more.


4 posted on 10/08/2009 5:44:37 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (ACORN: Absolute Criminal Organization of Reprobate Nuisances)
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To: Zakeet
Asked Newsweek: "Do you think he isn't a citizen?"

Willfully misunderstanding the issue. His citizenship is not the issue. His status as "natural-born" is what matters.

5 posted on 10/08/2009 5:44:56 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Play the Race Card -- lose the game.)
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To: Tennessee Nana

bump


6 posted on 10/08/2009 5:45:02 AM PDT by Doofer
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To: Zakeet
this needs a Barf Alert
7 posted on 10/08/2009 5:45:43 AM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
I’m suspecting that when his Marxist mentors burned his past, they got to his birth certificate as well. It’s not in Hawaii’s file drawers any more.

He should have to PROVE his eligibility. Saying "the dog ate my papers", isn't good enough.
8 posted on 10/08/2009 5:46:37 AM PDT by Dewey Revoltnow (People don't respect that which they don't earn.)
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To: Zakeet
It is possible that Obama conspired his way to the precipice of the world's biggest job, involving a vast network of people and government agencies over decades of lies. Anything's possible.

But step back and look at the overwhelming evidence to the contrary and your sense of what's reasonable has to take over.

Still waiting to see that overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

9 posted on 10/08/2009 5:47:24 AM PDT by Faith
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To: Zakeet

He made a fool of himself and played into the hands of the left who look for stuff like this.


10 posted on 10/08/2009 5:49:06 AM PDT by IbJensen (If Catholic voters were true to their faith there would be no abortion and no President Obama.)
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To: Tennessee Nana

I don’t know if this even an accurate record of the conversation. There are two major camps in the birther ranks. Some think the problem is that Bummer was born outside of the USA, while others think the problem is that Bummer was born in the USA but to foreign subjects.


11 posted on 10/08/2009 5:49:13 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (ACORN: Absolute Criminal Organization of Reprobate Nuisances)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Well, they do understand one condition that would disqualify the Bummer.


12 posted on 10/08/2009 5:50:46 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (ACORN: Absolute Criminal Organization of Reprobate Nuisances)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
There are two major camps in the birther ranks. Some think the problem is that Bummer was born outside of the USA, while others think the problem is that Bummer was born in the USA but to foreign subjects.

And then there's the third group who thinks that the first two are simply speculation, but who are nonetheless very suspicious and curious as to why Obama has gone to such lengths to hide his birth certificate and other records.

13 posted on 10/08/2009 5:51:53 AM PDT by kevkrom (Obama's Waterloo: a "hockey mom" with a laptop and a Facebook account)
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To: IbJensen

I think he did OK, though he might have improved on it by expounding on the finer points of natural born citizenship. (As if See BS News would have told us about it anyway.)


14 posted on 10/08/2009 5:52:24 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (ACORN: Absolute Criminal Organization of Reprobate Nuisances)
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To: Faith

It mostly boils down to “Orly Taitz is a quixotic idiot.”


15 posted on 10/08/2009 5:54:07 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (ACORN: Absolute Criminal Organization of Reprobate Nuisances)
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To: Dewey Revoltnow

The Bummer’s progress from a Democrat hopeful to the Oval Office was one big buck-passing orgy and now we are wondering how this conundrum could ever happen in our (once) great country. Republicans as well as Democrats fell asleep or played possum at the switch.


16 posted on 10/08/2009 5:58:10 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (ACORN: Absolute Criminal Organization of Reprobate Nuisances)
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To: kevkrom

I suspect the reason Obama hasn’t released his BC is because he doesn’t have one...he was probably born in a mud hut somewhere in Kenya with a tribal witch doctor shaking some bones over him.


17 posted on 10/08/2009 6:03:40 AM PDT by Boonie
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To: Zakeet
Tom DeLay???

Why, I thought he was in prison somewhere for crimes against humanity or some such. I recall he was ceremoniously removed from CONgre$$ as the most corrupt being on the face of the planet. What's he doing appearing in public on Dancing with the Stars and featured in a seeBS article?

18 posted on 10/08/2009 6:06:27 AM PDT by Just A Nobody ( (Better Dead than RED! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA))
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To: Boonie
with a tribal witch doctor shaking some bones over him.

That would certainly explain a lot!

19 posted on 10/08/2009 6:07:20 AM PDT by Just A Nobody ( (Better Dead than RED! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA))
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To: kevkrom

And don’t forget the group that thinks Barry might be NBC technically, but spent his early adult years reaping the benefits of his Indonesian citizenship derived from his adoption by Lolo Soetoro, and never actually got a legal name change when he decided to become Barack Hussein Obama.


20 posted on 10/08/2009 6:09:37 AM PDT by Genoa (Luke 12:2)
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To: Zakeet

I prefer the term “Manchurian Candidaters”...

Perhaps if we start using it, it will stick.

Certainly makes a stronger and more accurate point.


21 posted on 10/08/2009 6:11:10 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (2012: Repeal it all... All of it!)
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To: Faith
Still waiting to see that overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

True. If someone is able to prove he is NOT constitutionally eligible, they've failed to do it effectively and legally. They certainly have a lot of circumstantial evidence, but not enough to force the door open.

Nor have they yet found a way to force Obama to prove he IS constitutionally eligible.

There's a stalemate at this point, and it favors the guy in office.

22 posted on 10/08/2009 6:13:13 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins

So if I decide to apply for a job, any job, in the USA it is up to the prospective employer to prove I am ineligible - or in the absense of any evidence to the contrary - hire me?

That’s not how the rest of American jobs work. Why should the presidency?? Even if you apply for the job of dog catcher, you will need to prove your eligibility for the I-9 employement form. The employer is required to verify you are eligible.

Wee-wee applied for this job. Has yet to demonstrate he’s legally qualified to even hold it.

Seems rather determined NOT to, in fact. Why is that?


23 posted on 10/08/2009 6:18:16 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (2012: Repeal it all... All of it!)
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To: IbJensen

> He made a fool of himself and played into the hands of the left who look for stuff like this.

Has to be said. It was a massive setup (the left didn’t just look for it, they arranged for it), and he twinkled-toed right into it.


24 posted on 10/08/2009 6:20:07 AM PDT by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender! REMEMBER NEDA)
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To: Zakeet

Never have many, tried so hard, and been so willing to commit treason.


25 posted on 10/08/2009 6:24:23 AM PDT by Waco (Kiss an illegal aliens' axx and buckle yer seat belt, it's the law.)
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To: Zakeet

when I clicked a link to this story it took me to CBS.com where it opened up a survey window asking for my opinions on CBS News....in case any of you are interested....


26 posted on 10/08/2009 6:33:44 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: IbJensen
...never watch the show, but saw a clip run on FOX of DeLay dancing like a robot in his red pants and his Republican striped shirt. The worst dressed golfers don't look that bad. There's a line one can cross where the style is accepted from bad into edgy or hip; but DeLay wins for "the worst dressed dancer", plus he made the "elephant" cheesy and "unhip" well. He just became the poster child for why not to vote Republican.


27 posted on 10/08/2009 6:35:10 AM PDT by fight_truth_decay
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To: Zakeet
FTA:

The Obama campaign released Mr. Obama's Certificate of Live Birth during the presidential campaign. The president's original birth certificate was not released by the state of Hawaii because state law prohibits doing so except under extenuating circumstances; Dr. Chiyome Fukino, director of the Hawaii State Department of Health, has said she has seen it and that it verifies Mr. Obama's birth and citizenship.

This mendacious paragraph is enough to make anyone who is not already a birther a birther. First, it says the Obama campaign released the Illegal Alien's "Certificate of Live Birth," an outright falsehood. The document released was a "Certification of Live Birth," which is a secondary document based on the original "Certificate of Live Birth," that the Illegal Alien has spent more than a million dollars to keep hidden.

Then it goes on to say, "the state of Hawaii [hasn't released the Certificate] because state law prohibits doing so except under extenuating circumstances," but fails to mention that one of those circumstances is the person covered by the certificate authorizing its release, precisely what the Illegal Alien has refused to do.

If the Illegal Alien's defenders have to resort to totally false and disingenuous defenses like this, that's strong evidence indicating he's not a citizen.

28 posted on 10/08/2009 6:41:25 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: Dryman

States need to be amending their statutes to include specific language about proof of citizenship before a person can be included on a ballot. Now is the time to do this.


30 posted on 10/08/2009 7:04:43 AM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We deserve the government we allow.)
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To: Zakeet
If we really think this through, there is NO WAY that Obozo can be a Natural Born Citizen.

If he was born in Kenya, that pretty much does it. Even the Obots can't say in good conscience that he is a NBC. They'll of course try to argue that "his mother was an American citizen." But (big BUT) on the other hand if he was born in Hawaii, his father's British citizenship doesn't matter???

Now they can't have it both ways! If his mother's US citizenship overrides his father's if a Kenyan birth, but his father's UK citizenship doesn't override his mother's if a Hawaiian birth? Talk about being inconsistent!

Bottom line: No matter WHERE he was born, it is not possible for Hussein to be a Natural Born Citizen. He is a dual citizen, at best!
31 posted on 10/08/2009 7:19:07 AM PDT by thecraw (God allows evil...God allowed Hussein...Lord willing he'll give us Sarah to clean up the huge mess.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

You used the word “should.”

I’m talking about what “is.” You can either prove he’s ineligible and get him out or you can’t.

If you read the constitution, there is no one tasked with verifying elibility requirements. That “should” be fixed, but it hasn’t been and isn’t being.

I say this as someone who thinks Obama “should” produce his long form certificate. I have found no way to force that, nor have any number of smarter, far more famous minds than my own. If you have a way to force it, go for it.


32 posted on 10/08/2009 7:48:08 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: Zakeet

In other news, partisan Democrat hacks STILL have not brought Tom DeLay’s prosecution to trial.


33 posted on 10/08/2009 8:08:13 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (There is no truth in the Pravda Media.)
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To: libstripper
Dr. Chiyome Fukino, director of the Hawaii State Department of Health, has said she has seen it and that it verifies Mr. Obama's birth and citizenship.

Wouldn't that mean that she has illegally inspected the document if "she's seen it" and it is off limits?

When Democrat hacks violated the powers of their office in Ohio and snooped Joe the Plumber's records, there was legal reprisal.

34 posted on 10/08/2009 8:10:25 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (There is no truth in the Pravda Media.)
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To: Zakeet

And that is the whole p;oint, NO ONE KNOWS.

We do know his father is British, and THAT alone makes him ineligible for POTUS, he is a Dual citizen.


35 posted on 10/08/2009 8:12:42 AM PDT by Danae (No political party should pick candidates. That's the voters job.)
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To: Just A Nobody; 1riot1ranger; Action-America; Aggie Mama; Alkhin; Allegra; American72; antivenom; ...
Tom DeLay???

Why, I thought he was in prison somewhere for crimes against humanity or some such. I recall he was ceremoniously removed from CONgre$$ as the most corrupt being on the face of the planet. What's he doing appearing in public on Dancing with the Stars and featured in a seeBS article?

In other news, Charles Rangel will be permitted by "the most ethical congress ever" Democrats to remain in the ways and means chair while he fights charges he was a tax cheat. Ted Poe (R-TX) voted "present".

Update: House Dems move to quash Remove Rangel resolution, 243-156 (10/7/2009 Michelle Malkin)

36 posted on 10/08/2009 8:15:09 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (There is no truth in the Pravda Media.)
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To: Zakeet

I always did like Tom DeLay.


37 posted on 10/08/2009 8:42:57 AM PDT by TheThinker
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Millions of Americans should send blank I-9’s to the Whitehouse....


38 posted on 10/08/2009 8:59:31 AM PDT by goodnesswins (Democrat party has always been the party of slavery, sedition, subversion, socialism and surrender)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Millions of Americans should send blank I-9’s to the Whitehouse....


39 posted on 10/08/2009 8:59:32 AM PDT by goodnesswins (Democrat party has always been the party of slavery, sedition, subversion, socialism and surrender)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Actually, his citizenship IS an issue, whether he is Natural Born, is an issue for holding the office of POTUS.
If he is not naturalized, then he may not be a US Citizen at all, in any capacity.
There is evidence that he was adopted by Lolo Soetero in Indonesia, and then had a legal name change to Barry Soetero. There is no evidence that I have seen, and I have followed this closely, that he ever had a legal name change in the US to Barak Hussien Obama II.
Therefore, he may not be a US Citizen, rather an Indonesian citizen, before which he could have been born in Kenya which would make him a British Subject.
Nothing I have seen has proven him to be a US Citizen, Natural Born, naturalized, or anything else.


40 posted on 10/08/2009 9:38:04 AM PDT by etraveler13
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To: HiTech RedNeck

for that statement to be correct (chasing windmills), she would have to be ineffective.

the recent court ruling, says your incorrect on her goals, and not very good a judge of character and intelligence if you think she is an idiot.

Remember, when you point a finger at someone, one points to that person, and three point at you...


41 posted on 10/08/2009 9:41:07 AM PDT by etraveler13
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To: etraveler13

Ah, argument by cliche. The best kind!


42 posted on 10/08/2009 9:42:24 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (ACORN: Absolute Criminal Organization of Reprobate Nuisances)
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To: Just A Nobody

Thomas Dale DeLay (born April 8, 1947) in Laredo, Texas is a former member of the U.S. House of Representatives who represented Sugar Land, Texas from 1984 until 2006. He was Republican House Majority Leader from 2003–2005, when his legal problems forced him to step down. In 2005, a Texas court charged DeLay with criminal violations of state campaign finance laws and money laundering. DeLay pled not guilty, claiming political motivation for the charges. As of October 2009, the prosecutor has yet to bring the case before a jury. Two former senior aides to DeLay have been convicted in the Jack Abramoff scandal, and though the infamous lobbyist was closely associated with DeLay, the former congressman himself has not been legally implicated at this time.


43 posted on 10/08/2009 9:42:48 AM PDT by etraveler13
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To: etraveler13

Anyhow, that’s what the birther skeptics are saying. She’s not typical of conservatives, who mostly are taking a pragmatic view that Obama has to go out like he went in.


44 posted on 10/08/2009 9:44:23 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (ACORN: Absolute Criminal Organization of Reprobate Nuisances)
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To: xzins

The order for discovery by Judge Cook, allows the council on both sides to find out the facts that Obama sealed.
Your partially right, we don’t know, but our hands were tied, now we can find out.

I suspect, as many do, that he has withheld this information for good reason. What that reason is, will be determined when we get the information and it is examined.

Wait and see is the watchword.


45 posted on 10/08/2009 9:46:11 AM PDT by etraveler13
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To: HiTech RedNeck

a trite or obvious remark?

I presume that the body of my text was not refuted, and your only comment is on finger pointing, hardly obvious to most, and certainly not trite. Right on, I would say..


46 posted on 10/08/2009 9:50:08 AM PDT by etraveler13
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To: etraveler13

Thanks. You’ve followed it more closely than I have. I have no doubt that there is something there to find: Obama is trying to darn hide to hide his past. Any reasonable person ought to be trying to see what’s behind the curtain.


47 posted on 10/08/2009 9:58:53 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Play the Race Card -- lose the game.)
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To: Faith; Zakeet

“overwhelming evidence to the contrary”

Like beauty, whether the evidence is “overwhelming” is in the eye of the beholder:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2009-07-27-obama-hawaii_N.htm

“I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, director of the Hawai’i State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawai’i State Department of Health verifying Barrack Hussein Obama was born in Hawai’i and is a natural-born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008, over eight months ago.”

http://www.starbulletin.com/columnists/kokualine/20090606_kokua_line.html

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2009/jul/28/worldnetdaily/birthers-claim-gibbs-lied-when-he-said-obamas-birt/

http://whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/ObamaBirthStarBulletin.jpg

http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/2008/12/05/birth_certificate/


48 posted on 10/08/2009 10:01:30 AM PDT by WOSG (OPERATION RESTORE AMERICAN FREEDOM - NOVEMBER, 2010 - DO YOUR PART!)
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To: etraveler13

We’ll be waiting .....


49 posted on 10/08/2009 10:03:27 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: libstripper

“This mendacious paragraph” ... um, if you are going to use that term, better not to call someone who’s been verified to be a citizen an ‘illegal alien’ in that same paragraph.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2009-07-27-obama-hawaii_N.htm

“I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, director of the Hawai’i State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawai’i State Department of Health verifying Barrack Hussein Obama was born in Hawai’i and is a natural-born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008, over eight months ago.”


50 posted on 10/08/2009 10:06:00 AM PDT by WOSG (OPERATION RESTORE AMERICAN FREEDOM - NOVEMBER, 2010 - DO YOUR PART!)
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