Posted on 10/10/2009 10:55:28 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
WASHINGTON – Sixty years is how long Democrats say they've been pushing for legislation that provides health care access for all Americans. They'll have to wait another three if President Barack Obama gets a bill to sign this year.
Under the Democratic bills, federal tax credits to help make health insurance affordable for millions of low- and middle-income households won't start flowing until 2013 — after the next presidential election. But Medicare cuts and a sizable chunk of the tax increases to pay for the overhaul kick in immediately.
The eat-your-vegetables-first approach is causing heartburn for some Democrats. Three years is a long time to wait for dessert, and opponents could capitalize on misgivings about the complex legislation to undo what would be a signature achievement for Obama.
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"It's very important to get the execution right," White House budget director Peter Orszag told The Associated Press in a recent interview.
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"It's very important to get the execution right,"
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and that is what this nation is headed toward.. execution.
by a band of liberal anti-American politicians inleague with foreign interests using our own system of politics to bring this nation down any way they can.
Three years is a long time to wait for dessert, and opponents could capitalize on misgivings about the complex legislation to undo what would be a signature achievement for Obama.
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a signature achievement?
It’ll be his first one since taking office.. and he already has a Nobel before even achieving it.
The commie ‘RATs love to whine about the mess they “inherited” from President Bush. Can you imagine the mess the next president is going to “inherit” from the commie ‘RATS? Yikes!
And afterwards, there will be 4 years in which private insurers go bankrupt, private firms stop offering coverage (hey, get it from the government!) and everyone gets sucked into some level of dependency.
And in 2016, it will seem nearly unthinkable that government healthcare ever be taken away.
Timing is everything, and the initial 3 year delay is very important for this thing to work as planned.
"It's very important to get the execution right," White House budget director Peter Orszag told The Associated Press in a recent interview.
There's another reason, less talked about: to make the costs of the plan seem more manageable under congressional budgeting rules.
Lawmakers use a 10-year accounting window to assess new programs. Starting the Medicare cuts and some of the taxes in the early years — and pushing the bulk of new spending into the latter years — helps keep the cost of the health care overhaul within Obama's $900 billion limit.
"It means that the full cost of the program is underestimated in the 10-year window that you are looking at," said Gail Wilensky. "It's not like we've never seen this before, but people need to understand what's going on."
....by a band of liberal anti-American politicians inleague with foreign interests using our own system of politics to bring this nation down any way they can.
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Precisely. And half of the electorate either does not care, is too stupid to realize where these America-haters are taking us, or just want whatever lifestyle the government is either GIVING them or has promised them in their plethora of lies. Even after all the warning and yelling BEFORE the election about what these criminals and tyrants were all about and what they would do to America if they were given the power to do so.
In all my years, I have never been so frustrated or fed up with the American public and a corrupt and twisted Congress.
Nothing but Smoke and mirrors.
As goes California, so goes the nation.
Actually, timing is everything but with a different scenario.
The elections in 2010 become a major issue....with Republicans retaking the house because of this issue, but the Democrats will still control the Senate. 2011 will be wasted as the White House can’t accomplish anything and the House can’t undo this mess. 2011 becomes the year that the President mostly travels outside of the US, for obvious reasons.
So 2012 comes and the entire election is based on one-subject...the universal health care package. It’ll be debated over and over and over. The President is counting on this as his one and only accomplishment for the whole four years....so his vote is dependent on people buying this whole thing...if not...then the new guy and new senate in 2013...undo the whole thing.
It’s a brilliant strategy. There isn’t another thing that this administration will accomplish over the remaining three years. It’s sitting there and preparing for the 2012 election...based on this one piece of legislation. The only thing that could throw a wrench into this...is the Supreme Court.
The day by day continual transformation of our ‘Democracy’ based on individual liberties to ‘corporatist’,or a socialist authoritarian society like Europe.
Just before elections, the government ‘allows’ increased freedom then after the election it’s back to business as usual.
IMHO, The threat by the dems in 2012 will be about the upcoming entitlement program that those mean old Republicans will deny you even after you’ve paid into it for the past 3 years. Evil genius if you ask me.
So, by the rules of logic that must mean that we have until 2013 to enjoy our medical care as it is. Right?
It won’t matter. Hospitals are going to get slammed the minute this passes.
Oathkeepers.org
So goes the ‘empire’...
“Do not blame Caesar, blame the people of Rome who have so enthusiastically acclaimed and adored him and rejoiced in their loss of freedom and danced in his path and gave him triumphal processions. … Blame the people who hail him when he speaks in the Forum of the ‘new, wonderful good society’ which shall now be Rome’s, interpreted to mean ‘more money, more ease, more security, more living fatly at the expense of the industrious.’” –Marcus Tullius Cicero (106-43 B.C.)
If this legislation does pass in one form or another and there is the 3 year wait, as appears the case, then the voting public will have 2+ years of paying taxes for nothing. 2+ years puts us into the election year.
Once again, I don’t think the pols have figured this out. If the platform of the R’s in ‘12 is one of overturning the health-care legislation before it’s enactment then the election might be very, very interesting.
“Do not blame Caesar, blame the people of Rome who have so enthusiastically acclaimed and adored him.....
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Yes. “Pass the Kool-Aid please....I need another dose of stupidity..” said the mindless liberal...
Brilliant assessment. Wow, you have nailed it...
Exactly the way I feel. I have never been so disgusted with a huge segment of Americans.
All of the utopian dreams are hope and promises. I cannot think of *one* campaign promise this guy has fulfilled. Not one. Not even talking about the or an idealized end result, just talking about having made significant progress towards the promised end. On anything. And I can think of plenty of promises made that are being aggressively reversed: Lower limits on tax increases, “torture”, Afghanistan, and rendition of detainees. Of course, having nothing measurable (except unemployment and, I will admit, the stock market, neither of which I believe the pres has any control over. Well, unless there’s guaranteed amnesty for any and everything Goldman Sachs can contrive to pump the market) means you can never be held accountable. It’s the condition of idealized government that just keeps on giving.
There were 500 or so inmates in Gitmo, the Gitmo he promised he would close. I welcome correction on that number, it’s from memory. We’ve relocated what, 8 of them? 12?
Now he’s talking about a compromise gov’t with the Taliban. Uh huh, right. This is peace.
We’re now in and looking to go deeper into a synthetic socialistic universe. I’m afraid that everything we know and cherish will be proven wrong and untenable.
This will be the set-up for Barry to win in 2012. The plan has been designed not to solve today’s problems today, but to re-elect Barry for his second term. The scare tactic will be - you NEED to re-elect him otherwise those eeeevil Republicans will take all your healthcare away and kill you.
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