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A darker side of Columbus emerges in US classrooms
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Posted on 10/11/2009 11:36:57 AM PDT by Chet 99

TAMPA, Fla. – Jeffrey Kolowith's kindergarten students read a poem about Christopher Columbus, take a journey to the New World on three paper ships and place the explorer's picture on a timeline through history.

Kolowith's students learn about the explorer's significance — though they also come away with a more nuanced picture of Columbus than the noble discoverer often portrayed in pop culture and legend.

"I talk about the situation where he didn't even realize where he was," Kolowith said. "And we talked about how he was very, very mean, very bossy."

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1 posted on 10/11/2009 11:36:57 AM PDT by Chet 99
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To: Chet 99

Where’s that “Oh Jeez, not this sh** again” guy?


2 posted on 10/11/2009 11:38:16 AM PDT by garyhope (ua)
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To: All

I wonder if the Teacher’s Union scumbags will take a “nuanced” approach to teaching about Martin Luther King Day and discuss the adultery and plagiarism as well as his Civil Rights leadership?


3 posted on 10/11/2009 11:38:18 AM PDT by Chet 99
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To: Chet 99
"And we talked about how he was very, very mean, very bossy."

Imagine that, an Admiral in charge of an exploratory fleet of 3 ships being 'bossy'. It's almost as if he thinks he's "in charge of everything" or something.

4 posted on 10/11/2009 11:38:55 AM PDT by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: Hodar

Naw, the fleet would have been no good unless it was democratically managed.


5 posted on 10/11/2009 11:40:39 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (ACORN: Absolute Criminal Organization of Reprobate Nuisances)
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To: Chet 99
"I talk about the situation where he didn't even realize where he was," Kolowith said. "And we talked about how he was very, very mean, very bossy."

How convenient, he could use the same material for discussing President Obama!

6 posted on 10/11/2009 11:40:52 AM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: Chet 99

And every January does Jeffrey and his fellow “educators” also tell the naive little boys and girls about MLK’s alleged whoremongering, adultery and plagiarism?


7 posted on 10/11/2009 11:40:56 AM PDT by A_Former_Democrat
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To: Chet 99

He was white and a Christian, have to destroy him and white culture


8 posted on 10/11/2009 11:41:10 AM PDT by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: Hodar
It's almost as if he thinks he's "in charge of everything" or something.

Yeah, and he's was obviously one of those "people who always think in terms of black and white."

9 posted on 10/11/2009 11:42:25 AM PDT by Steely Tom (Without the second, the rest are just politicians BS.)
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To: Chet 99

Do they have any lessons about how Stalin and Mao were big meanies? I doubt it.


10 posted on 10/11/2009 11:43:52 AM PDT by Defiant (Hey socialists-- We're right, we fight, get used to it.)
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To: Chet 99
"I talk about the situation where he didn't even realize where he was," Kolowith said. "And we talked about how he was very, very mean, very bossy."

Hard hitting stuff.

11 posted on 10/11/2009 11:43:54 AM PDT by eclecticEel (The Most High rules in the kingdom of men ... and sets over it the basest of men.)
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To: Chet 99

General Miles blows off American Indian myths

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gew_V-f8IHk&feature=player_embedded


12 posted on 10/11/2009 11:43:55 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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“”In their own verbiage, he was a bad guy,” teacher Laurie Crawford said.”

....and of course indigenous peoples of this hemisphere were just great....despite their enthusiastic participation in torture and mutilation,incessant tribal warfare, canibalism, burning at the stake, slavery, human sacrifice and euthanasia.


13 posted on 10/11/2009 11:44:23 AM PDT by STONEWALLS
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"The students were forced to stand in a cafeteria and not allowed to eat while other students teased and intimidated them — apparently so they could better understand the suffering indigenous populations endured because of Columbus, Korten said."

The darker side of the left.

14 posted on 10/11/2009 11:44:49 AM PDT by Mojave (Don't blame me. I voted for McClintock.)
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To: Chet 99

Why burden kids with all the negative crap? When they’re older and IF public school hasn’t beaten the desire to learn out of them, they can research and learn more on their own without it being tainted by a liberal/progressive idiot teacher and curriculum.


15 posted on 10/11/2009 11:45:38 AM PDT by ChocChipCookie (When a president must hire out his real job to 32 czars, he was never CEO material.)
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“Columbus being the founder of the United States, doesn’t sit well with a lot of people, myself included,” said Paul Prussing, deputy director of Alaska’s Division of Teaching and Learning Support.:

And there ladies and gentlemen is what is wrong with education. Even those leading education are uneducated and more concerned with political correctness. Columbus founded the United States? What a dunce. I hope someone in Alaska reads this.


16 posted on 10/11/2009 11:47:36 AM PDT by Bulldawg Fan (Victory is the last thing Murtha and his fellow Defeatists want.)
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To: STONEWALLS
their enthusiastic participation in torture and mutilation,incessant tribal warfare, canibalism, burning at the stake, slavery, human sacrifice and euthanasia.

But that part can wait until the kids are older.

17 posted on 10/11/2009 11:49:29 AM PDT by Mojave (Don't blame me. I voted for McClintock.)
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To: Mojave

To complete the picture, then the teasing and intimidating students should have been hauled to the principal’s office in irons.


18 posted on 10/11/2009 11:49:57 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (ACORN: Absolute Criminal Organization of Reprobate Nuisances)
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To: Chet 99

Airdrop that moron teacher in to Cap Haitian Haiti.


19 posted on 10/11/2009 11:50:00 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (!!)
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To: Chet 99
And we talked about how he was very, very mean, very bossy.
Imagine that-- the commander of a ship sailing to the edge of the known world, full of men who are becoming frightened and mutinous, being bossy and mean. I'm shocked. Really I am.
20 posted on 10/11/2009 11:50:33 AM PDT by Clara Lou
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To: ChocChipCookie

So typical of the the left to prey on the ignorant, naive, youth, poor, immigrant, etc types. Further proof they can’t win on the issues but instead how to try to brainwash the people they allegedly care about

Incredible hypocrites. No wonder they’re such unhappy, low self esteemed, dysfunctional types. I’ll bet this Jeffrey is the poster boy of the lot.


21 posted on 10/11/2009 11:55:10 AM PDT by A_Former_Democrat
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To: Chet 99

Teachers acting like divisive teenagers.


22 posted on 10/11/2009 11:55:33 AM PDT by Gene Eric
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To: HiTech RedNeck
To complete the picture, then the teasing and intimidating students should have been hauled to the principal’s office in irons.

They were only following orders. And for the left that's an acceptable defense when the orders are politically correct.

23 posted on 10/11/2009 11:55:42 AM PDT by Mojave (Don't blame me. I voted for McClintock.)
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To: All

One day, people will figure out the real purpose behind the founding of public schools, as well as the board of education.


24 posted on 10/11/2009 11:56:36 AM PDT by AliVeritas (Lord forgive me... we know he's anti-Christ. The pride and chaos get him the pit again.)
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To: Mojave

When ole Chris got a bit too uppity on his second trip, that’s what happened to him. So let the exercise complete the analogy, by all means. Have them make construction paper chain then put it all around the taunters to be taken to the principal’s office to be paddled (assuming that’s done anymore in FL).


25 posted on 10/11/2009 12:00:20 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (ACORN: Absolute Criminal Organization of Reprobate Nuisances)
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To: Chet 99

“...just the whole Columbus being the founder of the United States, doesn’t sit well with a lot of people...”

How about this: Columbus didn’t found the United States and in fact never set foot in what would become the United States. Hid so-called discoveries were in the Caribbean and in Central America. Our indigenous people here in the U.S. have no axe to grind with Columbus, whatsoever. What the hell kind of history is being taught to our children, anyway?


26 posted on 10/11/2009 12:01:20 PM PDT by beelzepug (This administration is a tagline-rich environment.)
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To: Chet 99
"Every hero is somebody else's villain," said Felipe Fernandez-Armesto, a scholar and author of several books related to Columbus, including "1492: The Year the World Began." "Heroism and villainy are just two sides of the same coin."

Moral Relativism rears its evil head -- again

Don't know how it's to be done but in order to produce adults who love their heritage and their nation one thing's for sure: Clowns like Felipe Fernandez-Armesto must be kept away from the classroom.

27 posted on 10/11/2009 12:01:34 PM PDT by Rocco DiPippo
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To: Mojave

That’s also why we don’t (usually) call this place Columbia, but America.


28 posted on 10/11/2009 12:02:07 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (ACORN: Absolute Criminal Organization of Reprobate Nuisances)
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To: Chet 99

Christopher Columbus was the ORIGINAL LIBERAL...
1. He didn’t know where he was going
2. When He got back... he didn’t know where he’d BEEN.
3. And made the whole trip with SOMEBODY ELSE’S MONEY.


29 posted on 10/11/2009 12:03:10 PM PDT by gwilhelm56 (I will DIE with Israel BY MY SIDE, rather than LIVE with the CHAINS of ISLAM on my Back!)
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To: Chet 99
“In McDonald, Pa., 30 miles southwest of Pittsburgh, fourth-grade students at Fort Cherry Elementary put Columbus on trial this year — charging him with misrepresenting the Spanish crown and thievery. They found him guilty and sentenced him to life in prison.”

“In their own verbiage, he was a bad guy,” teacher Laurie Crawford said.

Here is the left doing exactly what they accused their foes of doing.

Hey TEACHER!
Leave that kid alone!

30 posted on 10/11/2009 12:04:38 PM PDT by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: beelzepug
Everyone knows it was the Vikings who discovered America anyway....
31 posted on 10/11/2009 12:06:47 PM PDT by Snurple (VEGETARIAN, OLD INDIAN WORD FOR BAD HUNTER.)
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To: garyhope

IT does not prevent liberals from going to UFO cults and worshiping the very alien Columbuses they all so claim they hate. I mean, they are the ones behind the America’s tech came from UFOs and not from conservatives, type revisionism.


32 posted on 10/11/2009 12:06:57 PM PDT by JudgemAll (control freaks, their world & their problem with my gun and my protecting my private party)
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To: Chet 99

In Columbus time, they didn’t have an understanding about disease like we do today. These jackasses act as if he came to American knowing that his crew would infect people in the new world and kill off many of them. That’s a patently absurd stand.

As for whether he discovered the Americas or not, he most certainly did for Spain. And acting as if it didn’t count, because he didn’t know where he was, is just brain dead.

A team of astronauts leave earth intending to land on Mars. Instead they land on Venus by mistake. Hundreds of years later their accomplishment is invalidated, because they didn’t land on their goal Mars.

In Columbus day, you had to keep control of your ship. If you were not a stern taskmaster your crew could mutiny, kill you, or set you adrift in a small boat, just about the same as killing you.

These teachers are one clueless bunch of jerks.

I also find it amusing that one teacher says, “That’s what my children say.” Children only echo or mirror what they have been taught. If they are saying things that are extremely biased or untrue, then you can’t blame them. You blame the simpering idiot who gave them biased non-factual information.


33 posted on 10/11/2009 12:15:10 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Deficit spending, trade deficits, unsecure mortages, worthless paper... ... not a problem. Oh yeah?)
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To: Chet 99

I just wonder why Amerigo Vespucci is mentioned less than Columbus, at least as my impression on history books of public schools.


34 posted on 10/11/2009 12:16:30 PM PDT by Wiz
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And why the place got called America not Vespuccia?


35 posted on 10/11/2009 12:19:30 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (ACORN: Absolute Criminal Organization of Reprobate Nuisances)
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To: Chet 99

Indeed.


36 posted on 10/11/2009 12:20:30 PM PDT by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: ChocChipCookie

Like the rest of us did. It seems that, for the left, it’s never too soon to teach kids to hate their country and their culture. Well, American kids anyway.


37 posted on 10/11/2009 12:22:43 PM PDT by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: Chet 99

I bet the teach MLK was a womanizer.


38 posted on 10/11/2009 12:24:01 PM PDT by boomop1
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To: Altura Ct.

What that from a movie?


39 posted on 10/11/2009 12:41:10 PM PDT by tophat9000 (Obama plans to fix America like he fixed his dog)
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To: DoughtyOne
In Columbus day, you had to keep control of your ship.

In Columbus day, the crew might very well have consisted of criminals of the worst sort.

40 posted on 10/11/2009 12:51:50 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Hear us, O Bama: Mmm, mmm, mmm.)
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To: Clara Lou
Imagine that-- the commander of a ship sailing to the edge of the known world, full of men who are becoming frightened and mutinous, being bossy and mean.

If Columbus had not been strong-willed, then the expedition would never have embarked, or would have turned back before reaching the Americas.

41 posted on 10/11/2009 12:55:13 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Public healthcare looks like it will work as well as public housing did.)
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To: Chet 99
I still don't understand why they don't like Columbus.

He was from elsewhere, went in the opposite direction of where he he was going, didn't get there, misnamed an entire population, opened them up to Government exploitation, and did it on Government funds.

Sounds like a democrat paradigm to me...

Yes, it took guts, and no captain at sea can be less than a tyrant when warranted or the ship is lost.

42 posted on 10/11/2009 1:01:56 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Chet 99
This revisionist claptrap's most grievous insult to history is that it always views events through a modern-day filter. It's a little hard, in the age of the internet, to judge the actions of a group of sailors challenging the boundaries of the known world in three leaky, ill-equipped boats.

But don't let that stop you from applying today's yardsticks to the actions of men from halfway around the world 600 years ago.

43 posted on 10/11/2009 1:07:18 PM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: John Semmens
"We have a very large Alaska native population, so just the whole Columbus being the founder of the United States, doesn't sit well with a lot of people, myself included," said Paul Prussing, deputy director of Alaska's Division of Teaching and Learning Support...

The students were forced to stand in a cafeteria and not allowed to eat while other students teased and intimidated them — apparently so they could better understand the suffering indigenous populations endured because of Columbus, Korten said...

Like I say, its got to be tough being a satirist these days when you've got all these amateurs trying to get into the act. The competition from Reality has got to be tough.

44 posted on 10/11/2009 1:11:12 PM PDT by marron
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To: tophat9000

Yes it is, from “Bury My Heart At Wounded Knee”. Sure blew me away the first time I saw it. I couldn’t believe they even allowed it on TV instead of the usual anti-white, anti Western crap that Hollywood always pushes.


45 posted on 10/11/2009 1:20:20 PM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: Chet 99

All ships captains of the era were “mean” and “bossy.” It was the only way to maintain the discipline needed to survive voyages of months at sea with primitive technology, especially navigation tools.


46 posted on 10/11/2009 1:30:37 PM PDT by colorado tanker (I humbly accept this award of Hero of the Russian Federation)
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Don’t think I’d want to be on the crew of a 15th century ship commanded by a indecisive Picard “sensitive male” type. Give me Kirk.


47 posted on 10/11/2009 1:34:38 PM PDT by Chet 99
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To: DaveTesla

“The students were forced to stand in a cafeteria and not allowed to eat while other students teased and intimidated them — apparently so they could better understand the suffering indigenous populations endured because of Columbus.” This is a case of blatant brainwashing. You can expect an increase under Education Secretary Arne Duncan who will bring the excellence of the Chicago school system to the entire U.S. A recent study by the Goldwater Institute revealed that only 3.5 percent of Arizona public high school students could pass a U.S. citizenship test. “If you want to destroy a country, destroy its memory.” Columbus is not the only figure to be deconstructed. Every one of the Founders suffer the same fate. Yet, icons of the Left will be whitewashed.


48 posted on 10/11/2009 1:39:18 PM PDT by Vehmgericht
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To: Bulldawg Fan

He thinks a founder is someone who found us?


49 posted on 10/11/2009 1:45:24 PM PDT by silverleaf (If we are astroturf, why are the democrats trying to mow us?)
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To: Chet 99
I imagine he'll be teaching them about Democrats being responsible for the KKK and Jim Crow laws next, right?

Sure he will.

50 posted on 10/11/2009 1:46:30 PM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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