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American flags banned from vehicles at Albany apartment
democratherald.com ^ | Oct. 9, 2009 | Cathy Ingalls

Posted on 10/13/2009 6:22:31 PM PDT by CitizenM

Jim Clausen was "shocked" when the manager of the Oaks Apartments in Albany told him he could face eviction if he did not remove the American flags that fly from his Jeep and motorcycle when they are parked at the complex.

Barb Holcomb, who manages the Oaks Apartments at 1440 Geary Circle S.E. for owner Stan Keller, said Clausen is correct.

She is requiring that tenants take off any flag that flies from their vehicles, and that includes the Mexican flag and college team flags.

Political and religous signs at a tenant's unit also are not permitted.

"I'm trying to avoid any conflict," Holcomb said. "I have a problem when tenants' rights to free speech come into contact with other tenants' rights of peaceful enjoyment. This policy is not a violation of anyone's civil rights.

"We're a diverse community here, and we've had previous problems with this sort of thing," she said.

Jann Carson, the associate director of the ACLU of Oregon, agreed that Clausen and other tenants' civil rights are not being violated under the new policy

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Holcomb said she wanted to implement the flag policy earlier but the previous manager would not say anything to the tenants.

"We have a new manager who is taking care of this," she said. "It's a small housekeeping problem we want to take care of."

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: New York
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So...if these liberal, namby-pamby nitwits around the country who are banning the use of American flags ON OUR OWN PROPERTY (CARS BELONG TO THE PEOPLE WHO BUY THEM) can determine where we can place our flags...Then eventually we will only be able to put them up in our own bedrooms. We cannot let these people rule us.

This is America. We have the right to put our AMERICAN flag on our own property. The country is certainly going mad allowing a few tell us not to fly our own country's flag. I am so angry I am seeing STARS AND STRIPES!

1 posted on 10/13/2009 6:22:31 PM PDT by CitizenM
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Does she also make people remove bumper stickers from their cars? And if not, I’d put the biggest American flag sticker that I could find on there....or lots of little ones!


2 posted on 10/13/2009 6:24:44 PM PDT by Prince of Space
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To: CitizenM
"I'm trying to avoid any conflict," Holcomb said. "I have a problem when tenants' rights to free speech come into contact with other tenants' rights of peaceful enjoyment. This policy is not a violation of anyone's civil rights.

Well isn't she just plain vanilla. Never mind the whole free speech thingy in the constitution.

3 posted on 10/13/2009 6:27:02 PM PDT by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghan Honor Roll students.)
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C’mon guys the ACLU said civil rights were not being violated. They would never lie or only pursue cases that help their Socialist Progressive agenda.

/sarc


4 posted on 10/13/2009 6:27:15 PM PDT by I Hate Obama ("Sorry I had a fight in the middle of your Black Panther Party." -Forest Gump)
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>>Political and religous signs at a tenant’s unit also are not permitted.

American flags are now considered a “political sign”?? I guess they’re right. 48% of America lives under the Stars and Stripes, and 52% live under the big “O” flag.


5 posted on 10/13/2009 6:28:15 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Question O-thority!)
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I would have 2 things to say. The first, why don’t you come on over and take it. The second, see you in court.


6 posted on 10/13/2009 6:31:38 PM PDT by enduserindy (Conservative Dead Head)
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other tenants' rights of peaceful enjoyment

That must be somewhere in a sub paragraph of the 1st ammendment just before the 'right not to be offended'. I'm not sure where that is. Maybe I should ask a Muslim.

7 posted on 10/13/2009 6:34:10 PM PDT by tbpiper
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” “We’re a diverse community here, and we’ve had previous problems with this sort of thing,” she said. “

Just realized this must be one of those “10 illegals live in a 1 bedroom” apartments.


8 posted on 10/13/2009 6:34:22 PM PDT by enduserindy (Conservative Dead Head)
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I think I would hire one of those airplane banner guys to fly a huge flag around in circles over that place for a few days... see how they like that!


9 posted on 10/13/2009 6:35:21 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: Prince of Space

I’d really be tempted to paint my car with the flag.


10 posted on 10/13/2009 6:37:34 PM PDT by svcw (Legalism reinforces self-righteousness - it communicates to you the good news of your own goodness)
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My drapes would be flags. My clothes would be flags my shower curtains would be also..


11 posted on 10/13/2009 6:39:26 PM PDT by GregB (God sent us Sarah Palin!!!!!!!!!)
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Why doesnt Miss Holcomb, try minding her own friggin business.


12 posted on 10/13/2009 6:40:42 PM PDT by Venturer
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You could project a waving flag onto the clouds overhead at night!


13 posted on 10/13/2009 6:41:41 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs, nothing more than bald haired hippies.)
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My view here is simple. It’s the owners property, the owner makes the rules. If I lived there I’d move. If it was my property and somebody was flying a commie flag they’d move. Quickly.


14 posted on 10/13/2009 6:42:36 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (Ask not what you can do for your country, ask what you can do for Obama.)
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Jann Carson, the associate director of the ACLU of Oregon, agreed that Clausen and other tenants' civil rights are not being violated under the new policy

It would be different if it didn't include the American flag!

I'm sick of and offended by people who are offended!

15 posted on 10/13/2009 6:43:42 PM PDT by lonestar (Obama is turning Bush's "mess" into a catastrophe.)
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The previous manager didn’t enforce this. Now she comes along and does. I’m curious what the owner has to say about it.


16 posted on 10/13/2009 6:44:28 PM PDT by 2111USMC
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"I'm trying to avoid any conflict," Holcomb said. "I have a problem when tenants' rights to free speech come into contact with other tenants' rights of peaceful enjoyment. This policy is not a violation of anyone's civil rights...Hmmm - when people see something on TV which offends them, they're told to change the channel - here's an idea for those whose "peaceful enjoyment" might be upset by seeing a flag they don't like (what a bizarre notion) - look the other way.......
17 posted on 10/13/2009 6:44:44 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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This policy is not a violation of anyone's civil rights.

Civil rights? If she gets any gubmint money, it might be a violation of Constitutional rights.

18 posted on 10/13/2009 6:46:30 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs, nothing more than bald haired hippies.)
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other tenants' rights of peaceful enjoyment

What? Where's the "right of peaceful enjoyment"? If it exists, the Obozo is violating mine by destroying the country which I peacefully enjoy.

19 posted on 10/13/2009 6:49:36 PM PDT by hsalaw
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“he could face eviction if he did not remove the American flags”

I work in the industry, and though state laws vary, I seriously doubt he could be evicted for breaching this rule if it wasn’t specified in his lease. They can choose not to renew his lease, or make him sign on to the new rule at renewal time, and evict him then, but I can’t imagine any judge would side with the landlord in this case, even in the most pro-landlord jurisdictions in the country.


20 posted on 10/13/2009 6:51:27 PM PDT by Boogieman
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