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BREAKING: Dems Go Nuclear on Obamacare
HumanEvents.com ^ | 10/15/09 | Connie Hair

Posted on 10/15/2009 7:21:42 PM PDT by Newton

House Ways & Means Committee Chairman Charlie Rangel (D-N.Y.) held a hearing this morning to certify that H.R. 3200 -- the main House Obamacare bill which was the subject of all the town hall rage in August -- has met all requirements to pass as a “budget reconciliation” measure.

Under reconciliation, the bill can be passed by a simple majority vote in the Senate -- just 51 votes -- and will be given preferential treatment on the House floor as well. The Dems have apparently invoked the “nuclear option” to shut out Republicans and ensure the bill is passed before the end of the year. (see link for more....)

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 111th; corruption; cultureofcorruption; democratcorruption; healthcare; military; nuclear; nuclearoption; obama; obamacare; obamathugs; politics; reconciliation; socialism; veterans
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To: taxcontrol

They darn well better! And even some Dems, those from conservative districts. They should all be standing up and saying to the public and the Congress, I took an oath to the Constitution, not to any party, or any man. And this bill does not square with the Constitution, therefore I cannot support it.

That is what they SHOULD be doing, I wonder how many will be brave enough to.


81 posted on 10/15/2009 9:05:24 PM PDT by gidget7 (Duncan Hunter-Valley Forge Republican!)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

I agree. The people need to rise up like we did in August.


82 posted on 10/15/2009 9:06:09 PM PDT by USALiberty
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To: Empireoftheatom48

I don’t think he’s the anti-christ because there have been other evil people; Lenin, Stalin, Hitler and so far...and I do mean so far as in yet, I haven’t seen the deaths, the camps and other happenings which marked the reigns of a Linen, a Stalin or a Hitler.

So far while I’ve heard the retoric of what he wants to accomplish but at least from what I’m seeing he’s good at starting things but he (to me) appears to lose interest and doesn’t exhibit very good follow through. I pray we make it through because I do believe he’s either a sociopath or a psychopath. He appears to have absolutely no clue about people and how to approach them. It’s entirely possible that he’s unable to experience empathy or care or sympathy. It’s either anger or jubilation.


83 posted on 10/15/2009 9:07:25 PM PDT by Sally'sConcerns (I'M A TAGLINE)
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To: Sender
"From each according to his tax bracket; to each according to his vote."

That's good, very good!
84 posted on 10/15/2009 9:07:55 PM PDT by JoSixChip (Time to start organizing, that's if we are ever going to.)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

I am not very good at predicting distant futures. That said..

I share your disillusionment, and if I may explain why:

Every tea partier, in order to be seen for the isolated moments they are visible, must take a day off work or exert some kind of self-financed effort to make his/her presence known. For many, this involves taking time away from a job they are justifiably fearful of losing. There comes a point where the effort required to protest the current path of developments is just too much of a burden to continue. So, as I see it, if the “movement” does not acquire more and more adherents, it will slowly die off from inertia. There is only so much effort that people with actual lives and actual families can be expected to exert. Especially when it appears not to be doing much; or even steeling the resolve of the Marxists in charge. And the more it attenuates, the people to whom it is addressed are heartened.

As I said, as economic conditions deteriorate for J6P, half or more will simply capitulate and beg for government cheese as the sacrifice of their freedoms seems like less and less of a bad deal, since without their own bailout, those freedoms diminish in perceived value. After all, your freedom to do what want, where you want, to travel, to pursue life and liberty wherever it may take you becomes fairly meaningless if you cannot feed nor house yourself & your family. Desperate people, and I predict that the numbers of these will relentlessly rise, will gladly sign away their freedoms out of pure survival.

And finally, a really greasy and evil-implication example has been set by the bank bailouts. “Where’s mine?”

There is of course an election approaching, but if the “where’s mine” element of our society increases in strength, no particular outcome is predictable. And significant damage may well be done by that point.


85 posted on 10/15/2009 9:14:20 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (It's better to give a Ford to the Kidney Foundation than a kidney to the Ford Foundation.)
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To: ShowMeMom
How about if I just remove it because I think our freedom has slipped away while we were looking the other way.

No, be one of the BRAVE and help keep our country FREE.

Freedom isn't free, and we're at the register. There's only one way to pay: with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.

86 posted on 10/15/2009 9:17:32 PM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: Newton
We're closer to health reform now than we've ever been, but we must not take anything for granted. The insurance industry is throwing millions of dollars a day and an army of lobbyists at Congress to stop reform.

If we can get 100,000 calls to Congress placed or committed to on a single day it will ensure the people's voices are heard louder than the lobbyists -- but it won't be easy. Everything hinges on folks like you stepping up and joining in.

Can we count on you? Please sign up to attend or host a Time to Deliver event on October 20th:

Jeremy Bird, BarackHusseinObama.com

87 posted on 10/15/2009 9:31:01 PM PDT by Sender (It's never too late to be who you could have been.)
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To: DTogo
We all know what's coming.

Let me guess. A dictatorship? A revolution? A Republican House in 2010? None of the above?

What's your prediction?

88 posted on 10/15/2009 9:40:02 PM PDT by IIntense
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To: Sender; All

The Dems aren’t overly concerned about the 2010 elections because they know amnesty is coming, and with it, millions of sheeple votes.


89 posted on 10/15/2009 9:40:21 PM PDT by varina davis (Life is not a dress rehearsal)
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To: maine-iac7

Not to mention the fact that this massive policy change is far from a mere “budget reconciliation.”


90 posted on 10/15/2009 9:59:04 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: maine-iac7

Not to mention the fact that this massive policy change is far from a mere “budget reconciliation.”


91 posted on 10/15/2009 9:59:53 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: Newton; Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

The list, ping


92 posted on 10/15/2009 10:02:36 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: luckystarmom

If the internet ever gets eliminated (or limited), then we have real problems.

When that happens it will be the time to arm up, step outside, listen and run toward the sound of gunfire, that will be Concord2. They will never be able to overcome 100+ million well armed patriots.


93 posted on 10/15/2009 10:19:16 PM PDT by dusttoyou (libs are all wee wee'd up and no place to go)
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To: Newton

There is a solution here.

ALL republicans walk out of congress.

With out ANY opposition members, there can be no Quorum. No Quorum, no vote. No vote, no bill.


94 posted on 10/15/2009 10:21:31 PM PDT by Danae (No political party should pick candidates. That's the voters job.)
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To: Newton

MASSIVE TAX INCREASES disguised as “Fines” and “Fees”...


95 posted on 10/15/2009 10:22:40 PM PDT by tcrlaf ("Hope" is the most Evil of all Evils"-Neitzsche)
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To: Newton; Clinton's a liar

Damned straight, Connie. Bravo.


96 posted on 10/15/2009 10:23:44 PM PDT by glock rocks (Our wimmen can kick yer butts.)
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To: Newton
Time to FReep the Congress critters:

U. S. Senate

U. S. House of Representatives

97 posted on 10/15/2009 10:23:54 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Boogieman
Speak for yourself. As long as I draw breath and have means to resist them, they won’t have complete power over me.

So what your saying is, as long as they don't kill you, you'll be alive, and as long as they don't subdue you, you will remain unsubdued.

98 posted on 10/15/2009 10:29:20 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: Boogieman
Until they can get rid of the problem of an armed citizenry...

Some say we're doomed and some say, "I'm buying more ammo". They've already passed the stimulous package, and no one stopped them. Obama's gone to other countries and apologized for the U.S. Despite our anger, he got away with it. The arrogant democrats are bound and determined to force national health care on us while all we do is fret and fume.

An "armed citizenry" looks like a fantasy.

99 posted on 10/15/2009 10:30:47 PM PDT by IIntense
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To: LachlanMinnesota
What right will be the last straw when taken away.

It surely will not be our God given right as supported and expressed in the second amendment. They don't have the will or the numbers...yet.

It will more likely be our right to worship and speak as affirmed in the first. The free exchange of ideas on the internet is high on their list.

100 posted on 10/15/2009 10:32:06 PM PDT by glock rocks (Our wimmen can kick yer butts.)
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