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Posted on 10/21/2009 7:56:56 AM PDT by Sub-Driver

Hoyer Says Constitution’s ‘General Welfare’ Clause Empowers Congress to Order Americans to Buy Health Insurance Wednesday, October 21, 2009 By Matt Cover

(CNSNews.com) – House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) said that the individual health insurance mandates included in every health reform bill, which require Americans to have insurance, were “like paying taxes.” He added that Congress has “broad authority” to force Americans to purchase other things as well, so long as it was trying to promote “the general welfare.”

The Congressional Budget Office, however, has stated in the past that a mandate forcing Americans to buy health insurance would be an “unprecedented form of federal action,” and that the “government has never required people to buy any good or service as a condition of lawful residence in the United States.”

Hoyer, speaking to reporters at his weekly press briefing on Tuesday, was asked by CNSNews.com where in the Constitution was Congress granted the power to mandate that a person must by a health insurance policy. Hoyer said that, in providing for the general welfare, Congress had “broad authority.”

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To: Sub-Driver
He added that Congress has “broad authority” to force Americans to purchase other things as well, so long as it was trying to promote “the general welfare.”

Bill of Attainder - ask the Brits how it worked out for them in the mid-1770s.

21 posted on 10/21/2009 8:04:30 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (The townhalls were going great until the oPods showed up.)
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To: Sub-Driver
One of the stated purposes of our government is indeed to “promote the general welfare”; but ONLY through the ENUMERATED powers given to the government.

This is not some abstract concept, our founders were clear that ‘promoting the general welfare’ was not a blank check of government power.

22 posted on 10/21/2009 8:05:53 AM PDT by allmendream (Wealth is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be RE-distributed?)
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To: GeronL
I am sure SoSo will fall in line with her masters.

I have no doubt that Sotomayor will. But then so would have Souter. The battle needs to be fought and won before one of the more rational justices needs to be replaced. So long as Obama is replacing the Ginsburgs and the Souters and the Sevens' of the court then it liberal for liberal. If he has a chance to replace an Alito or a Scalia or a Thomas then we're sunk.

23 posted on 10/21/2009 8:05:57 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Sub-Driver
Govt "health care" will enable the govt to eliminate the 2nd Amendment & ban guns since guns impact health care. And that's only the beginning of govt control of our lives from cradle to grave.

"Socialism is just the last "feel good” step on the path to Communism and its slavery." - Vladimir Lenin

“Medicine (health care control) is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin

24 posted on 10/21/2009 8:06:06 AM PDT by newfreep ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." - P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: Sub-Driver

I think it would promote the general welfare if he were a street cleaner rather than a legislator.


25 posted on 10/21/2009 8:06:55 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast ( If you have kids, you have no right of privacy that the govt can't flick off your shoulder.)
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To: Sub-Driver
Congress has “broad authority” to force Americans to purchase other things as well...

Well, I have to agree with him, they are forcing me to buy lots of ammo (at least that's what I've told my wife)

26 posted on 10/21/2009 8:07:05 AM PDT by NativeSon
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To: avacado
Yeppers! Congress can only “promote the general welfare” by exercise of its ligitimate and ENUMERATED powers, as listed in Article I section 8.
27 posted on 10/21/2009 8:08:05 AM PDT by allmendream (Wealth is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be RE-distributed?)
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To: Non-Sequitur

Maybe they will try to expand the court soon. You never know.


28 posted on 10/21/2009 8:08:05 AM PDT by GeronL (http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: Sub-Driver

For me, “. . . the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed” makes for a better “General Welfare” imperative.

That would mean that the gu-ment is supposed to give everyone a free Glock.

Hubba Hubba!


29 posted on 10/21/2009 8:08:30 AM PDT by Macoozie (Go Sarah! Palin/Bolton 2012)
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To: Perdogg

The Supreme Court has also ruled that people can be forced to pay into Social Security. But I’m not sure that the government can force people to buy insurance from a private company. Which, I suppose, is one reason why the Democrats are so big on a public option.


30 posted on 10/21/2009 8:09:29 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Sub-Driver

The Declaration of Independence gives the people broad authority to throw off a rouge government.

Think real hard about that one Steny.


31 posted on 10/21/2009 8:12:45 AM PDT by NY.SS-Bar9 (Bread and Circuses)
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To: Sub-Driver

That is a crock of chit. They did not have such a thing as health care when the constitution was written.


32 posted on 10/21/2009 8:13:12 AM PDT by Piquaboy (Military veteran of 22 years in Navy, Air Force, and Army.)
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To: Sub-Driver

“He added that Congress has “broad authority” to force Americans to purchase other things as well, so long as it was trying to promote “the general welfare.”

O.K. Congress KNOWS national security is an important issue. So Hoyer should support requiring American citizens to purcahse military style rifles so they can help with our national defense.


33 posted on 10/21/2009 8:13:27 AM PDT by ZULU (God guts and guns made America great. Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam.)
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To: GeronL
I think it means we are legally able to buy a B-1 bomber and take out the Congress building, White House and all those Cabinet buildings. Isn’t that the real meaning of the “General welfare” clause?

Hmmm. *leafing* No, I think that falls under "insuring domestic Tranquility."

34 posted on 10/21/2009 8:13:45 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast ( If you have kids, you have no right of privacy that the govt can't flick off your shoulder.)
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To: All
Assuming the Preamble is binding authority, that sure seems like a stretch of the word "promote." Where is the best primer on the force of law of the Preamble, please?

Oh, and by the way Steny, shall we talk about the general Welfare of the unborn?

35 posted on 10/21/2009 8:14:31 AM PDT by NonValueAdded ("The President has borrowed more money to spend to less effect than anybody on the planet. " Steyn)
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To: Sub-Driver

In fact I don’t think the Preamble is, any way legally binding. Its just a mission statement.
Our government is getting loonier and loonier.


36 posted on 10/21/2009 8:14:32 AM PDT by Little Ray (Obama is a kamikaze president aimed at the heart of this Republic.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Sounds like Steny needs to stop by Borders and pick up a copy of “The US Constitution for Dummies”...


37 posted on 10/21/2009 8:15:03 AM PDT by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2013: Change we can look forward to.)
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To: Sub-Driver

“Promote” and “Enforce” means two VERY DIFFERENT THINGS!

Is it the government’s job to “Enforce” the law? or “Promote” it?

By passing laws which deny freedoms, they violate the very thing that they swore to protect.

Citizens are not obligated to obey unconstitutional law.

Citizens ARE obligated by the constitution to rise up and abolish by any means necessary any government which threatens the constitution.


38 posted on 10/21/2009 8:15:29 AM PDT by Safrguns
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

This is a clear constitutional violation and usurp of unprecedented power and government control, the very thing the founding fathers wrote into the constitution to avoid!


39 posted on 10/21/2009 8:15:38 AM PDT by Ev Reeman
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To: Sub-Driver

General Welfare = Mandatory Healthcare?

Uh... No.

Thanks for playing, though.


40 posted on 10/21/2009 8:15:54 AM PDT by paulycy (PUBLIC OPTION = PREDATORY PRICING = UNETHICAL COMPETITION.)
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