Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Why antidepressants don't work for so many
Northwestern University ^ | 10-23-09 | Marla Paul

Posted on 10/23/2009 10:20:20 AM PDT by Pharmboy

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-48 next last
To: Buckeye McFrog
I think the table is being set for Obamacare rationing. So when the Public Option managers begin saying no to patients, the template will already be out there that “you know, that stuff was found to be not all that effective anyhow”.

I thought the same thing when they talked about the cancer screenings yesterday. How's the water, McFrog? It's getting a little too warm for me in this pot ; )

21 posted on 10/23/2009 10:37:47 AM PDT by ravingnutter
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: Buckeye McFrog; Pharmboy

Guess what? Tamiflu may not work so well on H1N1 either. In the July outbreak at the Air Force Academy in which over 130 first year cadets fell ill with verified H1N1, the half who received Tamiflu fared no better than the ones who didn’t receive it.

Fortunately, since first year Academy cadets are usually 17 or 18 years old and in perfect health, none of them got very ill and all recovered quickly.


22 posted on 10/23/2009 10:39:39 AM PDT by CholeraJoe (Too many guns, too much ammo, Santa Claus - all mythical.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: tired1
What does a rat have do be depressed about?

All of his little rat friends dying of cancer long before their time from getting 1000 times the normal dose of saccharine.

23 posted on 10/23/2009 10:39:46 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Soon everyone will win a Nobel Peace Prize for not being George Bush...well, except for George Bush.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: Pharmboy

When I feel that “feeling”, I just decide not to be a participant. I can’t stop it from happening but I can choose to not help it. I find that being thankful helps take my mind off it.
Too many depressed people are self-centered. All they ever talk about is themselves and their problems. I don’t think that is an accident.


24 posted on 10/23/2009 10:43:48 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: BenLurkin
Image Hosted by ImageShack.us

25 posted on 10/23/2009 10:47:30 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (ACORN:American Corruption for Obama Right Now)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: ravingnutter

[i]I thought the same thing when they talked about the cancer screenings yesterday. How’s the water, McFrog? It’s getting a little too warm for me in this pot ; )[/i]

The MSM seems to be flooded with similar takes on other conditions, too — for instance, did you know that Dementia should be considered a terminal disease and that treating pneumonia in a patient with Dementia is futile?

I wonder how Big Pharma feels about all these recent articles?

If we do not treat so-called ‘untreatable’ illnesses, how will we ever discover any cures? Are we supposed to HALT all medical research? Should we simply program all humans to “Self-Destroy” at age 39????


26 posted on 10/23/2009 10:47:58 AM PDT by hennie pennie
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies]

To: AppyPappy
Insightful comment.

Here's something that sounds silly, but I would hope people who get "down" try it (it will not work for major depression). Next time the blues or whatever come, force a smile on your face and hold it for a minute or so (don't do this in public--LOL!). You'll feel better in 10 minutes or so...

27 posted on 10/23/2009 10:48:03 AM PDT by Pharmboy (The Stone Age did not end because they ran out of stones...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: Pharmboy

Well, the one thing that sucks about many antidepressants for men is the side effect of icantgetaboneritis. That tends to negate the benefits of antidep meds.


28 posted on 10/23/2009 10:48:27 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: fieldmarshaldj

My understanding is that they more often cause a delay in time to orgasm (in fact, they are used to treat premature ejaculation). But, they can lead to problems in this area also...


29 posted on 10/23/2009 10:50:46 AM PDT by Pharmboy (The Stone Age did not end because they ran out of stones...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: Pharmboy

I feel very sad and the only thing that gives me hope is I believe the Dallas Cowboys are going to the Super Bowl this yr. Should I be marched off to a padded room straightaway?


30 posted on 10/23/2009 10:55:49 AM PDT by Dysart
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Pharmboy

In a way, it’s like saying “Next time you get drunk, sober up”. I can feel the chemical release. It’s like a drug hitting my system. But it doesn’t mean that I need to live into it.
Funny. The opposite of Depression is not happiness. I can be happy and be depressed. I’m happy almost all the time. The opposite is panic. They cannot live together.


31 posted on 10/23/2009 10:58:36 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

To: AppyPappy

Oh, I believe you...you may also feel the release with the dumb-sounding thing I suggested.


32 posted on 10/23/2009 11:17:17 AM PDT by Pharmboy (The Stone Age did not end because they ran out of stones...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 31 | View Replies]

To: Dysart

Well, your sadness may end if Romo gets his QB rating up 30 or so points.


33 posted on 10/23/2009 11:18:03 AM PDT by Pharmboy (The Stone Age did not end because they ran out of stones...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 30 | View Replies]

To: Pharmboy

Antidepressants such as Prozac which are serotonin reuptake inhibitors will not work if there is a deficiency of serotonin in the body. About 90% of the serotonin is produced in the enterochromaffin cells in the lining of the stomache and intestines. I can show that stress causes the erector spinae muscle to contract along the dorsal area of the spine to block afferent neuron reception. The spinal nerves cell body head is outside the spine in the dorsal root ganglia, thus the muscle contraction serves as a neural block by putting a compression hold on the vertebrae, disc(causing backache) and the afferent neuron. This leads to disk compression which in turn compresses the efferent spinal neuron (in the front of the spine) sending signals to the intestinal area. The result is that digestion does not process properly and the serotonin is not produced by the enterochromaffin cells, thus leading to depression. The associated back pain is in the central lumbar region.

Fasting as a spiritual practice also suppresses serotonin production. Since serotonin acts as a blocking neurotransmittor for emotions being transmitted across the synaptic cleft, the deficiency of serotonin causes emotions to rise to the surface and facilitates spiritual cleansing.

The countering effect is food consumption, especially carb’s which increases serotonin production, thus the cause of emotional or stress eating.

This is a simplification of the process but it is fairly easy to prove by stimulating the emotional traumatic memory and watching the muscle contraction response.

This same methodology is true relating to emotional trauma relating to betrayal issues. Except that the neural block appears to be anchored between the T2 and T3 vertebrae. This is the proverbial “knife in the back” feeling relating to the muscle contraction and the efferent neuron compressed and blocked innervates the upper central region of the heart and causes the related “heart ache” of the betrayal issue. What I am saying is not in the medical texts but is easily proven in a scientific setting. I have shown this many, many times in demonstrations...

Just my humble opinion, but I have found that it is relatively easy to resolve depression by removing the emotional intensity attached to the memory. I’ve done this many times with individuals in private and in front of groups during demonstrations. Generally, I can totally remove the trauma which causes PTSD in less than a minute (and it never returns). It’s easy to demonstrate and explain. I’ve done the same with emotional trauma relating to rape. This is not done with hypnosis or power of suggestion, but by physically altering the stored emotional memory.


34 posted on 10/23/2009 11:53:50 AM PDT by tired&retired
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: hennie pennie

Don’t forget the correlation between vitamin D (Cholecalciferol) deficiency and depression, too.


35 posted on 10/23/2009 11:57:37 AM PDT by TennesseeGirl
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: fieldmarshaldj

*snort*


36 posted on 10/23/2009 4:13:59 PM PDT by SuziQ
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: Dysart

You should try living in Nashville; the Titans’ combined scores this year would make a major league pitcher jealous.


37 posted on 10/23/2009 4:30:09 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, then writes again.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 30 | View Replies]

To: KarlInOhio

I am surprised, saddened, and ashamed on behalf of my FReeper FRiends country-wide that you didn’t receive kudos galore for your beautiful (if slightly obscure) comment! Thanks for a good chuckle!


38 posted on 10/23/2009 6:47:20 PM PDT by AFPhys ((Praying for our troops, our citizens, that the Bible and Freedom become basis of the US law again))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: TennesseeGirl
Don’t forget the correlation between vitamin D (Cholecalciferol) deficiency and depression, too.

I have had an interesting thing happen. After having been on and off SSRIs for years and, before that, tricyclics (with varying and inconsistent results), now that I have been taking 2,000-4,000 IU/day of D3 for several months I am almost free of symptoms (depression and anxiety). We'll see if the effect lasts. Depression is complex and multifactorial in causation so there will never be one cure-all for everyone. But I may have hit on mine by accident.

39 posted on 10/23/2009 6:59:28 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 35 | View Replies]

To: steve86

If you’re interested in doing a little reading; this site has some free academic articles. http://highwire.stanford.edu/. Just type in vitamin d deficiency (or any topic you’re interested in).


40 posted on 10/23/2009 7:20:37 PM PDT by TennesseeGirl
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 39 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-48 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson