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Live Thread: House of Representatives Votes on Obamacare 11-07-09
U.S. House of Representatives ^ | 11/07/09

Posted on 11/07/2009 9:35:32 AM PST by pillut48

The House tries to pass Obamacare in a big hurry, breaking how many Constitutional rules/regulations??

FOX news coverage can be seen online at http://www.blinkotv.com/ (select "HD Test")


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 111th; bhohealthcare; borninkenya; closetmuslimprez; government; health; healthcare; healthcarereform; healthinsurance; military; muslimsaboteur; obama; obamacare; obozohussein; pelosi
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To: Aussenseiter

DU harbors zero dissent


81 posted on 11/07/2009 12:50:20 PM PST by GeronL (http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com .... I am a rogue nobody. One of millions.)
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To: Aussenseiter
Saddam was paying 25,000 to every family that went to Israel and exploded themselves. Saddam was telling the world that he was on the verge of Nuc Warfare and dared nations to stop it. Saddam kicked the UN out of his country. Saddam wanted all control of the ME and we were the only ones to stop it. Saddam was harboring Al Queda and was warned.

Why the hell do you support that bastard!

82 posted on 11/07/2009 12:50:46 PM PST by eyedigress
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To: joltman1974

ah we’re screwed. they don’t care about election that’s a year away. they think they’ll be able to get people to forget.


83 posted on 11/07/2009 12:52:14 PM PST by snarkytart
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To: Aussenseiter
I'm not going to say GWB was lying, but I do think that what he said during the campaign wasn't terribly important for him to stick to.

I wouldn't say you're wrong on that.
85 posted on 11/07/2009 12:54:50 PM PST by ruination
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To: Aussenseiter

You sound like a Liberal making stuff up...

I never remember George W Bush running on a platform of Not Nation Building. The question was never up for debate in the 2000 Bush V Gore debates.. If you have a direct Quote or link then I would like to see it but In 2000 I think war and invasion of foreign countries was last on the list of campaign concerns let alone campaign promises...

But lets assume for a second that somehow you were falsely led to believe that GWB would not in your words “Nation Build in Iraq” or anywhere for that matter.

On Sept 11th 2001 the World Changed forever for this country. So start the ticker on your comments from that moment in history.

and stop trying to defend the indefensible lies of LIberals who intentionally run on Conservative Platforms only to stick it to Conservatives after they get elected.


86 posted on 11/07/2009 12:55:19 PM PST by Typical_Whitey (I will not be silenced so I guess I will see you in the gulag.)
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To: pillut48
From an email:

It was just discovered that Speaker Pelosi's government-run "health" plan, that may be voted on tomorrow, WILL require you to give $1 every month to go for ABORTION!

87 posted on 11/07/2009 12:55:38 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: WHBates
The speaker reprimands the "guests" in the audience not to applaud yet again.

The despots have spoken.

88 posted on 11/07/2009 12:56:00 PM PST by truthkeeper ("Why oh why didn't I take the blue pill?")
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To: Aussenseiter
I think I am as well. I thought that free speech would be welcomed on a site with this name, but I now I don't know...

Free speech is always welcome. But, expect to be challenged when you make the type of statements you made. Again, are you sure you're on the right board?

89 posted on 11/07/2009 12:56:13 PM PST by Road Warrior ‘04 ( I'll miss President Bush greatly! Palin in 2012! The "other" Jim Thompson)
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To: Aussenseiter
George W. Bush was not in over his head. If you study what happened in the Iraq war carefully, especially the comments General Pace made before retiring, it's clear the JCS and the intelligence community believed the Iraqi army was going to shift over to our side after we invaded and deposed Saddam. But instead of joining our side, the Iraqi army disbanded and collapsed due to lack of discipline and loyalty to their officers. Clearly our intelligence agents were talking to the Iraqi generals before the invasion and I think a lot of the Iraqi generals had agreed not fight our troops and to join our side after the war. We fully expected them to do that and preserve stability in Iraq after the invasion. Instead the Iraqi army just fell apart immediately and some of them turned into insurgents.

So you could say that the intelligence community and the JCS were in over their heads and totally miscalculated the behavior of the Iraqi army. That's probably a fair assessment. But George W. Bush and his administration made a lot of very tough decisions and dealt with very serious national security threats. As we look back now, it's also clear that they didn't fully understand that a huge housing market bubble was developing in America and they shouldn't have lowered interest rates so much and lowered mortgage application standards. But at the time, nobody expected so many people to pick up their marbles, throw a temper tantrum, and refuse to pay their mortgages when their houses started losing value. There had never been a big nationwide decline in home prices before so nobody knew what would happen in a big home price decline. We had been through regional plunges in home prices previously in California in the 90s and there were not a lot of mortgage defaults.

McCain wasn't that bad of a candidate. He had incredible energy for a 72 year old man. But he and Sarah Palin ran into two years of distorted, unbalanced 24/7 negative coverage of the war in Iraq by the heavily biased mainstream news media. The MSM rarely reported on the positive things happening in Iraq and the truth that we had finally given the Iraqis a chance to live in the kind of freedom that MSM presstitues take for granted every day. Then Lehman Brothers collapsed at exactly the wrong time two months before the election, leading to more wildly unbalanced and exaggerated news coverage of "economic meltdown" and "economic collapse" on a 24/7 schedule. Lehman sealed McCain's defeat, and I think it's probably no coincidence that it collapsed just before the election. (Would any Obama supporters on Wall St. and in the City in London care to comment on that statement?)

90 posted on 11/07/2009 12:57:12 PM PST by your local physicist (If the Canadians and Brazilians can drill for oil off their Atlantic coast, why can't we?)
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To: GeronL

It’s a downright love-fest over there. iccckkk


91 posted on 11/07/2009 12:57:20 PM PST by eyedigress
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To: advance_copy

I don’t see how that deal can work. It won’t fly politically next year for the blue dogs.


92 posted on 11/07/2009 12:58:11 PM PST by your local physicist (If the Canadians and Brazilians can drill for oil off their Atlantic coast, why can't we?)
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To: truthkeeper

Yea, that was great. Judging from the “arguments” coming from the Dem side, there are an awful lot of mentally challenged in the House—and by association, people who elected them.


94 posted on 11/07/2009 12:59:34 PM PST by Fu-fu2
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To: Bushbacker1

Just ignore. Do you really think this debate of Bush and Iraq is relevant to the healthcare thread?


95 posted on 11/07/2009 12:59:52 PM PST by snarkytart
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To: your local physicist
McCain wasn't that bad of a candidate. He had incredible energy for a 72 year old man.

E X C U S E me, (I voted for this turkey) but this is the guy who supposedly went begging to his best friend in the Senate JFKerry to be on his presidential ticket.

96 posted on 11/07/2009 1:00:04 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Aussenseiter

Some have suggested a few other sites for you to visit, but please stick around. There is so much to learn by READING on FR.

But as a newbie, be careful as to what you post, you’re new and people hear tend to want to find DUmmies whenever possible.

Welcome to FR.


97 posted on 11/07/2009 1:01:27 PM PST by borntobeagle
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To: Aussenseiter

Thanks for that non-response oh specious one.


98 posted on 11/07/2009 1:01:41 PM PST by eyedigress
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To: Just mythoughts

That’s obviously a bogus rumor. McCain could never have won with Kerry on the ticket, and it makes no sense for a Republican to run with a very liberal democrat. I read that McCain asked Lieberman to run with him, but the democrats threw a fit and refused to allow Lieberman to run with McCain. I don’t know what kind of threats they made, but McCain had to drop that idea.


99 posted on 11/07/2009 1:04:36 PM PST by your local physicist (If the Canadians and Brazilians can drill for oil off their Atlantic coast, why can't we?)
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To: Just mythoughts

I think you heard something from someone who had Kerry confused with Lieberman. McCain may have asked Lieberman to run on his ticket.


100 posted on 11/07/2009 1:06:37 PM PST by your local physicist (If the Canadians and Brazilians can drill for oil off their Atlantic coast, why can't we?)
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