Soft Muscle Tissue Found in Fossil Salamander (evos claim it is 18 million years old!)

CEH ^ | November 6, 2009

[GodGunsGuts]

Nov 6, 2009 — More soft tissue has been found in a fossil – this time in a salamander said to be 18 million years old.  The article on PhysOrg called it “the highest quality soft tissue preservation ever documented in the fossil record.”

Unlike the previous discoveries of fossil tissue inside bone or amber, the recognizable sinewy muscle tissue was found tucked inside the body of the animal.  “The scientists claim that their discovery is unequivocal evidence that high-fidelity organic preservation of extremely decay prone soft tissues is more common in the fossil record - the only physical record of the history of life on earth.”

Were the scientists at University College Dublin surprised by their discovery of this fossil in southern Spain?  Yes and no; they acknowledge that soft-tissue preservation is extremely rare, but also think that more is to be found.  A new treasure hunt is on.  “Using the same sampling methods and high resolution imaging that led to this find, scientists will now begin to investigate existing fossils in national museums and elsewhere across the world, for similar types of soft tissue preservation.”  This was not taken as a challenge to Darwinian time scales.  The article ended, “further discoveries will help scientists paint a better picture of life on earth since the beginning of evolutionary time.”

Notice that the evolutionists don’t want to tell the truth; they want to paint a picture.  Evolutionary time is dancing in the visions of their closed eyes.  Instead of seeing the falsification of evolutionary time, they see its vindication – sketched out on the canvas of imagination.  View their picture as abstract art of visions and dreams, not as the history of the world.

[Ira_Louvin]

Why do you have such a problem with the facts?

It has been pointed out to you many times that the soft tissue was fossilized, and was not intact.

Repeating the same fallacy over and over again will not cause it to evolve into the truth.

When did God give you a pass on Exodus 20:16?

[rae4palin]

Great stuff. Thanks.

[Ira_Louvin]

Then why is there zero creditable evidence of humans and dinosaurs living at the same time?

[GodGunsGuts]

Cretin swamp? I don’t post evolutionary propoganda. You must have me confused with one of your fellow Temple of Darwin fanatics. And speaking of the cretin swamp, isn’t that where your evo co-religionists believe their cretin ancestors crawled out of?

[Ira_Louvin]

Argumentum ad Hominem :

The fallacy of attacking the character or circumstances of an individual who is advancing a statement or an argument instead of trying to disprove the truth of the statement or the soundness of the argument. Often the argument is characterized simply as a personal attack.

1. The personal attack is also often termed an "ad personem argument": the statement or argument at issue is dropped from consideration or is ignored, and the locutor's character or circumstances are used to influence opinion.

2. The fallacy draws its appeal from the technique of "getting personal." The assumption is that what the locutor is saying is entirely or partially dictated by his character or special circumstances and so should be disregarded.

[christianhomeschoolmommaof3]

“It has been pointed out to you many times that the soft tissue was fossilized, and was not intact.”
Your source please. Here is mine which contradicts your statement.

“Not only is the tissue largely INTACT, it’s still transparent and PLIABLE, and microscopic interior structures resembling blood vessels and even cells are still present.”
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2005/03/050325100541.htm

[editor-surveyor]

No, the Bronto’s tail was not whip-like. It was large in crossection, and tapering.

[GodGunsGuts]

Did you happen to read the PhysOrg article that the CEH article is based on? It’s obvious that the preserved organic soft tissue was found inside what they are calling a fossil.

“The scientists claim that their discovery is unequivocal evidence that high-fidelity *organic preservation* of extremely decay prone soft tissues is more common in the fossil record - the only physical record of the history of life on earth.”

http://www.physorg.com/news176660912.html

[HereInTheHeartland]

Clone the suckers.
I want a real Jurassic Park to visit.

[Senator_Blutarski]

“Not only is the tissue largely INTACT, it’s still transparent and PLIABLE, and microscopic interior structures resembling blood vessels and even cells are still present.”

They are describing Helen Thomas...

[christianhomeschoolmommaof3]

That is just really unkind. Funny but unkind. :)

[GodGunsGuts]

Your double standard is typical of the Temple of Darwin faithful.

[Kozak]

No I've got you pegged perfectly.

[Ira_Louvin]

Here ya go,

In a discovery that invokes comparisons to Jurassic Park, North Carolina State University paleontologist Mary Schweitzer and her colleagues have extracted soft tissue from the fossilized leg bone of a 70-million-year-old Tyrannosaurus rex specimen

The tissue was once elastic and stretchy, and had the capacity to be dehydrated and rehydrated many times without losing this characteristic. “Although the preservation of soft tissue such as this is not unique in the geologic record, this occurrence goes well beyond what has been observed in the past for dinosaurs, and reinforces the evolutionary link of dinosaurs to birds,” said Barrera. http://www.nsf.gov/news/news_summ.jsp?cntn_id=103152Link (new window)

Removal of the mineral phase reveals transparent, flexible, hollow blood vessels containing small round microstructures that can be expressed from the vessels into solution. Some regions of the demineralized bone matrix are highly fibrous, and the matrix possesses elasticity and resilience. Three populations of microstructures have cell-like morphology. Thus, some dinosaurian soft tissues may retain some of their original flexibility, elasticity, and resilience. http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/short/307/5717/1952Link (new window)

[GodGunsGuts]

The difference is that the Temple of Darwin actually believes they descended from a bunch of cretins.

[christianhomeschoolmommaof3]

Thanks! I guess we were misunderstanding each other. I thought you were saying that the soft tissue was turned to rock. If it had the soft tissue would have been destroyed in the demineralization process. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

[Ira_Louvin]

You seemed to have overlooked this part of the article:

We noticed that there had been very little degradation since it was originally fossilised about 18 million years ago, making it the highest quality soft tissue preservation ever documented in the fossil record.”

Nice job of cherry picking their GGG.

When did God give you a exemption from Exodus 20:16?

[GodGunsGuts]

What Ira doesn’t seem to understand is that modern bones, such as the bones encountered in forensic science, are routinely demineralized to get at the soft tissue. That is because bone mineralization is a natural part of bone formation...it is part of what makes our bones hard.

[GodGunsGuts]

It’s not cherrypicking, Ira. They found organic soft tissue inside what they are calling a fossilized bone. Not only that, they have found organic soft tissue inside dino bones that the evos consider much, much older.

[Ira_Louvin]

You are overlooking key words in the post….

fossilized leg bone …………….Removal of the mineral phase…………demineralized bone

But lets not let the “facts” interfere with our creation myth. As you have previously stated there is no amount of evidence that would cause you to accept the evolutionary theory