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The Real Issue in the Carrie Prejean Fiasco (It's not about her; it's the Left's demonization)
NewsRealBlog.com ^ | November 12, 2009 | Ben Johnson

Posted on 11/12/2009 12:44:11 PM PST by FrontPageMag.com

Some readers have asked if -- with the release of topless photos and now a solo sex tape -- conservatives, or Christians, or conservative Christians, should consider former Miss California Carrie Prejean a role model. The question strikes me as off-base, a hybrid of the cult of hero worship and the 24/7 media's information overload.

The underlying issue in the Prejean case is not -- or at least, it has never been for me -- one of the pageant (near-)winner’s character or admirability. It's a simple matter of the Left's aggressive politicization of every aspect of life, including beauty pageants and football.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: benjohnson; blackmail; carriemagdalene; carrieprejean; christianrolemodel; liberalfascism; personaldestruction; sextape; stalinisttactics; witchhunt
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To: UCANSEE2

“I thought they were more about appealing to the base sexual desires of man.”

Any girl who takes video of herself abusing her sexual organs by masturbating certainly has no qualms about appealing to the base sexual desires of men.

Carrie is a damn hypocrite.


21 posted on 11/12/2009 1:36:30 PM PST by Palladin (The Obama Administration: "A Czar Too Far")
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To: DoughtyOne

Oh, I don’t disagree about the rampant hypocrisy and double standards going on here. However, such has never bothered the left before, and won’t in the future. At the end of the day, she entered the Miss California pagent and said she didn’t have racy pics. She did. And she only has herself to blame for that. For comparison, I applied for admission to the Naval Academy and for Navy ROTC my senior year in High School (didn’t get into the former, did get the latter). And I could truthfully state that I had never done illegal drugs. If you are going into a program with restrictions, you need to be aware of such and adhere to such.


22 posted on 11/12/2009 1:36:59 PM PST by dirtboy
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To: BertWheeler

Carrie Prejean thrust her own self into the spotlight. She wasn’t asked a question because Obama decided to visit her non-descript neighborhood and went to the house next door (like Joe the Plumber). Prejean got asked the question by that bloated lump Puke@ss Shilton because she put herself in a Donald Trump pageant.

I heard her on Hannity the other night, and her interview, (which, lets face it, was a book promotion event), left me with real questions whether she wants to stand apart from the shallow, empty celebrity biz, or make big bucks off it.


23 posted on 11/12/2009 1:39:46 PM PST by Flash Bazbeaux
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To: FrontPageMag.com

I never thought of her as a role model.

I respected her for speaking up for what she believed in what she knew would be a hostile forum. And I sympathise with her for all the attacks that have come her way since then.

She’s not perfect? Not the point. Of course she’s not. But the people who hate her keep flinging mud, some true, some not true, to take the focus off of their own degeneracy.

I’m not going to waste time arguing about whether or not she is a “role model”. She’s a person who dared to violate the present day orthodoxy, and she did it despite the fact that she had sought the approval of that world, she sought success in that world and was willing to live by the rules of that world... but they demand absolute fealty and she wasn’t willing to give it.

So she becomes interesting, and they’ll keep finding ways to embarrass her, and at least some of us will dance to their tune.


24 posted on 11/12/2009 1:43:31 PM PST by marron
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To: Flash Bazbeaux

You make a good point.


25 posted on 11/12/2009 1:46:37 PM PST by BertWheeler (Dance and the World Dances With You!)
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To: dirtboy

I do agree with your premise.

When she was called to make the statement, I don’t believe the video she provided to the boy friend had been made public. I don’t know exactly how long it had been in his posession, but I believe it was three years. If I were her, I would think the video had been watched and destroyed by then, it not having been made public before. If someone asked me, I’d say it wasn’t out there.

If the question was, are there any nude photos or video in public that will come back to haunt us, I believe she would have been honest in saying no. If she had modeled for an agency and those weren’t made public to her knowledge, I don’t think she would be wrong to deny they were in the public domain either.

The question at this point goes to someone trying to trip her up so hard, that they would go to a private source to make such a video or pictures public. If dollars were exchanged to change her answers to a lie, it would seem that would be actionable.

If that’s what they did, I would find it actionable.

If the video and pictures had remained private prior to her question, it would seem that someone tried awfully hard to defame her. If money changed hands in that effort, wouldn’t it seem like she would have recourse.

I would think those photos were taken under certain pretenses. If the original intent was breached, it would seem she could go after them.

That she hasn’t may be your best defense too.


26 posted on 11/12/2009 1:52:10 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Unseal the lock box containing every document pertaining to Obama's life, TODAY!)
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To: UCANSEE2
You have a good point. Is it ever morally right for a female to be in a beauty pageant? Esther may be an exception to the rule. God was using a beauty pageant to save the Jews, but God does work in mysterious ways. But your comments raise questions about the general demeanor of women today. Is being in a beauty pageant exciting the sexual desires of men much different than what I see women wearing today in public view? Modesty has gone out the window. The idea of sexual purity is ridiculed. I have been a campus minister for the last twenty years at two different large universities. Throughout the years I have had many college age men despair because they cannot find a virgin to marry. Girls are sexualized at such an early age. If Prejean was sending videos of herself masturbating to her boy friend at age 17, at what age do you think that she was sexually active (13 or 14)? Our society has turned into a pagan fertility cult.
27 posted on 11/12/2009 1:54:35 PM PST by Nosterrex
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To: FrontPageMag.com
She brings this stuff on herself with the lawsuit and the book deal. Really, what is she going to say in a book? I'm getting a little tired of 20 somethings that have accomplished virtually nothing writing books.
28 posted on 11/12/2009 2:01:39 PM PST by 1776 Reborn
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To: FrontPageMag.com

She appeared on Larry King is Alive on CNN. Laura Ingraham played excerpts.

There were conditions for the interview. No discussion of this subject and no phone calls. Larry lied and violated both “agreements”.


29 posted on 11/12/2009 2:06:24 PM PST by a fool in paradise (I refuse to "reduce my carbon footprint" all while Lenin remains in an airconditioned shrine)
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To: 1776 Reborn

What did Anne Frank ever accomplish?


30 posted on 11/12/2009 2:07:08 PM PST by a fool in paradise (I refuse to "reduce my carbon footprint" all while Lenin remains in an airconditioned shrine)
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To: 1776 Reborn

...And then running for president. :)


31 posted on 11/12/2009 2:07:29 PM PST by FrontPageMag.com
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To: dirtboy
Oh, I don’t disagree about the rampant hypocrisy and double standards going on here.

David Letterman is pursing an extortion/blackmail criminal case against a man for attempting to sell him a script outlining his workplace affairs.

Carrie was blackmailed into submission in this case (agree to set the case aside and the video is not leaked, except it already is leaked since TMZ has it).

32 posted on 11/12/2009 2:10:00 PM PST by a fool in paradise (I refuse to "reduce my carbon footprint" all while Lenin remains in an airconditioned shrine)
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To: a fool in paradise

Yeah right, let’s compare this Jean to Anne Frank. Did Anne Frank have any choice about her diaries being published? You’re really reaching with this one.


33 posted on 11/12/2009 2:11:52 PM PST by 1776 Reborn
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To: 1776 Reborn

She never wrote them for publication in the first place. Her father made the decision to publish them as a testament.

But you made the claim that those under 20 who’ve barely accomplished anything don’t have anything to say.

Each person goes through his or her own travels.

I am not drawing parallels to the gravity of the persecution.

Just pointing out that absolute statements are often erroneous.


34 posted on 11/12/2009 2:17:17 PM PST by a fool in paradise (I refuse to "reduce my carbon footprint" all while Lenin remains in an airconditioned shrine)
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To: a fool in paradise

Well you obviously think there is merit in Carrie & Levi writing their books. God knows why, enjoy!


35 posted on 11/12/2009 2:21:59 PM PST by 1776 Reborn
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To: FrontPageMag.com

Speaking only for myself, I could care less if Prejean sent a erotic video of herself to her boyfriend. In hindsight, it wasn’t the smartest move she ever made. But neither is it a crime. And, if her explanation is to be taken as truth, I honestly don’t see what the big deal is. It was a private matter between her and the guy she was seeing at the time. I might find it raunchy, but it wasn’t meant for me, so it’s none of my business. Lots of people in relationships do things with their partner that they probably wouldn’t want to become public knowledge. It doesn’t make them bad people.

I agree that she’s not a conservative leader; I never saw her as one. I admired her for speaking her mind at the pageant and reviled the smear campaign against her in its wake. End of story.


36 posted on 11/12/2009 3:04:47 PM PST by DemforBush (Now officially 100% ex-Democrat.)
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To: I Buried My Guns

You’re telling God his handiwork is defective.

* * * * * * * *

You could say that about unattractive women, especially all the Helen Thomas photos that crop up around here. That’s her god-given face.


37 posted on 11/12/2009 3:09:21 PM PST by LussaO
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To: LeonardFMason

Christians are always looking for the “perfect, pure (virginal) nice girl.”

Hell, I would think sinners would just as good role models. That’s what Christianity is about, forgiving and embracing fallen people, right? Do they want sinners in the church or not?


38 posted on 11/12/2009 3:15:54 PM PST by LussaO
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To: Nosterrex
If Prejean was sending videos of herself masturbating to her boy friend at age 17, at what age do you think that she was sexually active (13 or 14)? Our society has turned into a pagan fertility cult.

The wonders of cable TV.

HBO,SHOWTIME, CINEMAX, and MTV.

The role models for a generation.

However, all those indicate is an improvement of technology, and not a limit on the depths of depravity of 'man'. As noted in the Bible.

39 posted on 11/12/2009 9:50:38 PM PST by UCANSEE2
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To: Palladin
Any girl who takes video of herself abusing her sexual organs by masturbating certainly has no qualms about appealing to the base sexual desires of men.

Well, let's get to the bottom of the issue.

Why do women wear lipstick (in particular, the color red)?

Why do women wear high heeled shoes?

Why do women even participate in 'beauty contests'? Why must they appear almost nude (in bikinis) as part of the event?

40 posted on 11/12/2009 9:55:02 PM PST by UCANSEE2
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