Posted on 11/17/2009 10:40:49 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
Congressman running for governor calls on president to produce birth certificate.
It's the question that keeps poking its head up through piles of debunking documents: Is Barack Obama eligible to be president?
U.S. Rep. Nathan Deal says Obama can dispel it with a birth certificate showing he's a U.S. native and therefore qualified for the White House.
Deal, a Republican running for governor in 2010, called on Obama on Tuesday to "put the matter to rest ... and provide the documentary evidence."
But two independent fact-checking groups and the state of Hawaii say he already has. Their conclusion: Obama was born Aug. 4, 1961, in Honolulu.
Deal, who discussed the matter when a reporter asked about it earlier this month, was asked about it again Tuesday during a campaign stop in Savannah.
"My office, and I'm sure many other offices," the Gainesville lawmaker said, "continue to get inquiries. ... The president has the ability to put this to rest completely, and I think he should do that. ...
"It takes up my staff's time. We are constantly required to answer these kinds of inquiries. ... I'm willing to take his word for it, but I think he needs to convince those who still have doubts."
Under the U.S. Constitution, only native-born citizens may serve as president. Hawaii became a state in 1959.
Early in the campaign for the 2008 presidential election, critics of Obama argued he was born in another country.
Obama's presidential campaign posted online what it said was a copy of the document.
FactCheck.org said its staffers have "seen, touched and photographed" the certificate and concluded it's genuine.
PolitiFact said it sent an online copy to Hawaii's Department of Health and that the department responded the document is authentic.
The Associated Press has reported it received the same response from the department.
Both fact-checking groups have posted online rebuttals of contentions by Obama critics that the document is a fake.
And FactCheck.org has posted online a copy of a birth announcement it said was published Aug. 13, 1961, in the Honolulu Advertiser.
The announcement says a son was born to "Mr. and Mrs. Barack H. Obama" on Aug. 4.
Several judges have rejected lawsuits based on claims Obama is not lawfully president.
In July, White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs dismissed such claims as "made-up fictional nonsense."
Asked why the issue keeps surfacing, Gibbs responded, "Because, for $15, you can get an Internet address and say whatever you want."
"This question has been asked and answered, and I have no additional comment," White House Spokeswoman Gannet Tseggai said Tuesday.
Deal, due to continue campaigning in Savannah today, said he and other House members will sign a letter to Obama asking him to provide the birth certificate.
"They just want to get it off their plate," he said. "... It just needs to be put to rest."
But he did not appear eager to press the matter.
"I did not think that was an appropriate question to be asking in regard to a governor's race," he said, referring to the initial inquiry.
A reporter posed the question during what was billed as an online chat between Deal and supporters.
If Obama will "simply tell us where we should refer ... inquiries that come to our offices," he added Tuesday, "we'll do that. And we'll be satisfied."
You danged right.Before that happens I want to see the majorities flip to conservatives in 2010.That will help in holding the line against this marxist and the other marxist in our congress.Wow I despise those people but probably not as bad as they despise the citizens.
The damage is already done, now all the left and the media has to do is keep repeating it over and over until he is out of office.
Unless the evidence that can be put forth concerning his birth shocks the conscience of the nation nothing will change. Lawyers can argue in courts all across this nation about birth certificates, certificates of live birth and the lack of any other supporting documents as well as his campaign to suppress those very documents, until they are blue in the face.
In the end the left has managed to somehow raise the bar on this issue so high that no matter what we roll out it won’t be anything more than a kook conspiracy and whats more insulting is the number of spineless Repubs who have either bought into this logic or have recoiled at the thought of having to fight yet another impeachment of yet another liberal president.
You stupid nincompoops.
Or would that be a deliberate obfuscation?
I've seen this substitution of "native born" for "natural born" in print so many times, I'm beginning to think it's not a coincidence.
It's not hard (at least in my mind) for a journalist to get hold of a copy of the U.S. Constitution (hard copy or electronic) to check the correct wording of the requirements for the Presidency in Article II.
I think some nervous editors (who knows who might be looking over their shoulders?) grab the blue pencil and make some last-minute changes to the copy, if you know what I mean.
“I’ve seen this substitution of “native born” for “natural born” in print so many times, I’m beginning to think it’s not a coincidence.”
BINGO BUMP!
A deliberate obfuscation tactic, probably ordered by the O administration to their comrades in the state run media. It just makes it more obvious that they are hiding something that they know is going to come out eventually, so they are preparing the ground ahead of time.
They use the words FACT and CHECK, and it’s nothing of the sort, but farther than what it really is.... besides, when they own the news media, they can make up what ever their evil minds want to in their perverted world.
Too bad people didn't listen to this guy when he said...Obama is a radical communist and I think it is becoming clear. He is going to destroy this country and we are either going to stop him or the United States of America is going to cease to exist.
- Alan Keyes
This is an extremely important point that, amazingly, has been totally overlooked by the MSM and even most Freepers. If the COLB proves citizenship then the Obama lawyers would be using it. Apparently they are not. So all of the FactCheckingLibSites of the world have proven exactly nothing.
Keep pounding on this. The BC issue and Sarah Palin and the Rasmussen data has the Obama team running scared.
Big signs needed all around Washington D.C., Chicago, Mew York, Boston, Philadelphia and Los Angeles:
“Barry,why is your birth certificate a state secret?”
“Prove to the American people that you’re a natural born citizen of the U.S. This is not rocket science.”
“Stop hiding who you are.”
“Show us the birth certificate or the job goes to someone who will.”
Why are expensive lawyers helping keep your birth certificate hidden?
Pretty much says it all.
Has Obama fired his lawyers yet?
When he ds that and allows the thing to come out in the open I will believe it.
When I see what he is doing to Amrica I believe he hates this country and is rying to destroy it. Would an American do that? I have to answer yes, because many Americans in Congress are helping him to do just that.
I am totally amazed that at least ONE "red state" has not already passed such legislation into law. It only takes ONE state requiring this legality to fix the problem. If a candidate refuses to run in that state, it would be "sort of" an admission of guilt.
Now what do you think?
I hope Cong. Deal asks for his college records (what nationality did he apply under?) and records of his trip to Pakistan (what nationality passport did he use, as US citizens were strongly discouraged from travelling there?)
I’ve thought that too. One reason they would not have introduced the questionable COLB in court is because they have never gotten to that stage. I doubt that his lawyers would enter any evidence before the motions to dismiss are answered.
That being said, I doubt they would ever produce that COLB in a court of law.
1) The State of Hawaii would be called to tell us exactly what that COLB is or is not.
2) If it is fake. His lawyers know it and wouldn’t submit it to the court unless they want to see jail time.
3) If it is unconfirmed application information of some kind it destroys their claim that they have already provided proof.
Right now they have this piece of crap (COLB) they can point to that has no legal meaning. It’s a digital image which means nothing.
Technically, Obama has said nothing about the COLB. If it is fake or incomplete he’ll just say some over zealous campaign worker posted it online.
Regardless, Obama is a usurper if Barack Sr. is his dad but we can’t say for sure that Barack Sr. is even is father. It’s possible that an American citizen is his real father. Who knows? Natural born citizenship might not be his problem. The fact remains. He has a problem of some sort.
He'll be out of office for years before anything is resolved in the courts. That's how the court system is designed - it's merely a money-churn for lawyers and judges.
And he never had any intention of running for a second term, because he knew the birth certificate issue would prevent it.
Yes. Being born to a US Citizen mother makes one a "natural born" citizen whether the birth occurs on the soil of Hawaii, Kenya, Antarctica, or Mars. This obfuscation is thus a necessary component of birtherist nonsense.
Why 'go' anywhere, just direct the Sec.State and State Police to investigate the 08 state ballot qualification documents
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