YouTube's Complicity In Terrorism

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[StarCMC]

So yesterday we learned that Major Hasan was hanging out with an 18-year-old self-radicalized "jihad hobbyist."  According to the expert Jarret Bachman, these kids start out with lighter fare and progressively seek out increasingly violent and angry rhetoric.  When one seeker was looking on YouTube for martyrdom videos, they were directed to "look around online in the jihadi blogs."   The internet and the videos available on YouTube and elsewhere are a part of the process for these would-be terrorists.  Thanks YouTube - aren't you proud?  

In looking through videos the other day, I stumbled upon this one...

So what's in the video anyway?

Nice hooded terrorist dude.  Lovely Al-Qaeda symbol in the upper right.  And oooh!  Look!  Showing how to put missles together?  (Someone with more weaponry expertise than me would probably be able to tell us precisely what's happening here.)

Below the video, I decided to click on the "Statistics" tab and this is what I saw...

And look where it's popular -- and with whom!

Here's the video description posted by the uploader (Iused Google to translate it to English):

Oh lovely!  A Hamas jihad video.  One of the commenters on the video really liked it...

So, you may ask, what are these websites that this video is linked from anyway?  Well, this is one of them...majahdinar .com...

And here's alaqsagate .net....

I looked around there for a little bit and found this post (translated to English):

There were several locations where the video could be uploaded, and then one evangelistic soul posted this in the comments:

Isn't that special?  So I decided to look at another one of the sites - ansarnet. info.  

Here's the kind of fare available to the people who read this forum:

"united islamic jihad" posts a host of "reports" of operations.  Most are probably made up.

Another of the linked sites is http://  202.71.102.68/~alfaloj/vb/showthread.php?t=91018&page=2:

Looking through the thread - yep - places to download the video:

And hey - another evangelist!

That link leads to this video - note that the name of the poster on the terrorist website is similar to the name of the poster at YouTube, and the Statistics tab reveals links yet another terrorist website:

This is how it works people.  These videos are used to hype up the masses and get them angry and ready for violent murderous acts.  According to the expert in the story mentioned above, the only thing missing is the human touch.  The radical imams will take care of that though.  

Rusty over at the Jawa Report says:

The point of all this is that jihadis do not exist in a vacuum on their own. They feed off each other, giving each other support, send each other propaganda which reinforces their radicalism, and they egg each other on to transition from what Jarret Brachman calls "jihobbyist" to becoming terrorists.

So when is YouTube going to be held responsible for their part in this process?  Time for them to man up if you ask me.

Related topics:  FreeRepublic's You Tube Smackdown on STRIKE!

Major Hasan Dined with 'Jihad Hobbyist' (Terrorists hook up on the internet)

YouTube: A terrorist's dissemination and recruiting tool

YouTube: A terrorist's friend

[StarCMC]

Over here!

[Jack Wilson]

The current regime is too busy fact-checking Sarah Palin’s book to be bothered with this sort of thing.

[FromLori]

Another jihadist who liked the strip clubs!

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/accused-fort-hood-shooter-nidal-hasan-visited-strip/story?id=9090116

http://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1CHNQ_enUS345US345&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=Major+Hasan+got+a+lap+dance+before+the+shootings

[RaceBannon]

Good thing we’re restricting mamograms instead of looking into this!

[humblegunner]

They are also complicit in cute kitten videos:

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=kitten&search_type=&aq=f

The rats.

[moehoward]

Funny. True too.

[StarCMC]

Isn’t that the biggest load of BS you’ve ever heard?

[StarCMC]

Yeah, well, when one of those cute kittens goes on a shooting rampage on a US military base and kills 14 of my fellow citizens I’ll be pretty upset about that too. PHBLT!

[humblegunner]

PHBLT

Pretty hot bacon lettuce tomato?

Sorry, I'm not familiar with that.

[GregNH]

And Youtube sensors Rev Manning....

[StarCMC]

PHBLT!

(Better?)

[amom]

Excellent post. Thanks for the research and putting this together, Star.

[LibertyRocks]

Thanks for the ping. You know the ONLY thing that could POSSIBLY be a positive from YouTube leaving these videos up is the Intel it could provide via the statistics you have shown, but then we’d actually have to have enough official intel folks to look through, sort, and track down the leads... I’m guessing we don’t have those resources at the ready...

It’s really sad when it seems that the average US citizen can do more and learn more about the people threatening our country than the CIA/FBI/Homeland Security/JTTF etc... I point to our own Threat Matrix here at FR as an example. [I KNOW that when dealing with intel it’s not like they are going to advertise what they are doing and all, but it doesn’t seem as if enough is being done, and it’s VERY frustrating to me!]

[trooprally]

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Hope someone can figure out how to use the U.S.’s laws and Yahoo’s own mission statement against them. It would be real nice to blow up the terrorist videos.

Thanks Star and the others for the continual tracking of this cr@p and keeping us up to date.

[Tolerance Sucks Rocks]

Here’s an idea: charging, trying, convicting, and executing the people who run Youtube for Treason against the United States of America.

[BufordP]

The Smackdown threads are noble. But I think accusing YouTube of being complicit is extreme. Aside from counting on the user community to assist in keeping it clean, how many man-hours would it take on YouTube's part to police it's own site when hundreds of thousands videos are added each day? I wouldn't be surprised if manually checking all the "flagged" videos is a Herculean task.

YouTube Fact Sheet (cached version for the purpose of highlighting requisite factoids)

Financially speaking, YouTube is a big losing proposition.

Current fact sheet

[StarCMC]

Sorry — I can’t be convinced it is “extreme” when they are being used by terrorists to promote their cause, and when some of the videos they have left up, literally for YEARS, are embedded on terrorist website as a source for encouraging more followers to become terrorists. If youtube can’t make it work financially, then that’s their problem, not mine. Ignoring what they are doing because I feel sorry that their business sucks is NOT a viable solution.

[BufordP]

Well then ignore the math and call for YouTube to be shut down. That’s what it’ll take.

[StarCMC]

Hey - there are some pretty smart people out there. YouTube has the ability to tell where the videos it hosts are being linked and/or embedded. Maybe a list of terrorist website should be a red flag that a video should be removed? There should be some automatic stuff that just makes sense. If I, a SAHM homeschooler can find out this crap, then people who do it for a JOB should be able to at least run some sort of cursory search. I just can’t believe that I need to ignore what they are doing — is that what you’re telling me? Just give up because I am hurting their business? I guess YouTube’s just one of those good businesses that got in with the wrong crowd. It’s not really their fault. (Sorry BP — I’m not angry at you — the whole thing is just frustrating and I can’t believe you really mean what it sounds like you are saying! :-) )

[BufordP]

They've put tools in place for us to help police the site much the same way FR has the "Abuse button". Sometimes things get through and the next thing you know you're featured on O'Reilly for being a hate site.

Again, videos by the hundreds of thousands uploaded per day. Losing a quarter billion each year. All you can do is keep flagging and hope for the best.

YouTube may very well be a thing of the past in a year or two.

[StarCMC]

Ok - yes - I know things slip through. But when someone hits the abuse button here at FR, the mods are ON IT! At YT, about half the time when they review violent videos, they go behind an “over 18 only” wall. This means that the reviewer looked at the offending video and deemed that it wasn’t offensive enough to actually remove. That demonstrates complicity more than anything else.

[trooprally]

Jeez, I go to dinner and look what I miss.

Buford - I’m sure the Smack Down people have missed a lot of videos but when large numbers of Youtube viewers flag a particular video, nothing happens. Even when there are special alerts being sent out on FRmail, not the public thread, the videos stay.

We just can’t sit around and wait for something to happen. We may not like the results. So we need to try to shape whatever might happen. Unfortunately Youtube is a tough nut to crack.

Star - wasn’t there even a congressman who wanted to investigate Youtube and that went no where.

[Mr] T

[BufordP]

Any idea how many videos are merely flagged on a daily basis? You think there’s only a few people flagging videos? Think only Jihad videos are being flagged? Think there only a handful of videos to review? Think there’s an army of volunteers sitting around with nothing better to do then watch flagged videos?

No perspective.

[Cboldt]

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[StarCMC]

Star - wasn’t there even a congressman who wanted to investigate Youtube and that went no where.

Yes - Lieberman was all over it for a while. Not sure why it petered out though.

[StarCMC]

Think there’s an army of volunteers sitting around with nothing better to do then watch flagged videos?

No. Paid workers. And you know what, there is nothing in this country that is done without a responsibility attached. Heck - I have a pool in my back yard on my own private property and I am required to have at a minimum a 4 foot fence around it in order to make reasonably sure that someone couldn't accidentally fall in and drown. YouTube has internet servers. They need to make reasonably sure that terrorists aren't using their service.

[StarCMC]

Ha ha!! Niice! Reminds me of Bill The Cat. :-)

[SunkenCiv]

Thanks StarCMC.