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CRU Emails “may” be open to interpretation, but commented code ...... tells the real story
Watts Up With That? ^ | Nov 22 , 2009 | Anthony Watts Editor:

Posted on 11/22/2009 10:49:04 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

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1 posted on 11/22/2009 10:49:06 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: ShadowAce; SunkenCiv; Marine_Uncle; dila813; steelyourfaith

fyi


2 posted on 11/22/2009 10:50:57 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Story of the millennium; MSM interest somewhere after Palin's outfit tomorrow.
3 posted on 11/22/2009 10:57:59 PM PST by Carling (Somewhere in Kenya, a village is missing its idiot.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
After reading this I went and checked. There's all kinds of code. That could turn out to be far more damning than any email if there is anything like:

if (SupportsTheory(datapoint)) {AddToDataSet(datapoint)} else {};

4 posted on 11/22/2009 10:59:14 PM PST by Minn (Here is a realistic picture of the prophet: ----> ([: {()
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

The “sly-entists” at CRU found that proxy temperatures took a downward trend after 1960. Other data was grafted onto the proxy data that gave the hockey-stick (trend upward) shape. This was deliberate and quite unethical. This article describes remarks within the computer code that indicate that this is indeed what was done:
= = =
; Plots (1 at a time) yearly maps of calibrated (PCR-infilled or not) MXD
; reconstructions
; of growing season temperatures. Uses “corrected” MXD – but shouldn’t usually
; plot past 1960 because these will be artificially adjusted to look closer to
; the real temperatures.


5 posted on 11/22/2009 11:00:37 PM PST by kidd (Obama: The triumph of hope over evidence)
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To: Carling

A Levi Johnston, aka “Ricky Hollywood” (what a douche!) story will trump the GWCC scam story.

The left will probably say “Even though GW isn’t real, we should take this as a warning as to what could happen.”

Watch. This is exactly what they will say.


6 posted on 11/22/2009 11:00:58 PM PST by Rodney Dangerfield (The MSM isn't AWOL, they are complicit enablers that know exactly what they are doing.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

In SOAP-D15-intro-gkss.doc, it states:

“Osborn and Briffa, together with other co-authors (Rutherford et al., 2005), examined the sensitivity of temperature reconstructions to the use of different target variable (annual or seasonal temperature), target domain (hemispheric or extratropical) and reconstruction method. They found that when the differences in target variable and domain are accounted for, the differences in several reconstructions are small and that all reconstructions robustly indicate anomalous warm conditions in the 20th century, with respect to the past millennium.”

Since they are subbing real temp data after 1960, isn’t this fraud?

I mean, I think this is a pretty bald face lie to me.


7 posted on 11/22/2009 11:05:05 PM PST by dila813
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To: Rodney Dangerfield

The MSM won’t even report this. Mark my words.


8 posted on 11/22/2009 11:05:50 PM PST by Carling (Somewhere in Kenya, a village is missing its idiot.)
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To: Carling

bump for later


9 posted on 11/22/2009 11:10:23 PM PST by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: dila813
I was trying to make sense out of the comments,...couldn't...but did pick up a reference to a lengthy story in a UK paper Daily Mail

The devastating book which debunks climate change

By Christopher Booker Last updated at 12:47 AM on 23rd November 2009

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Just imagine if we learned we were about to be landed with the biggest bill in the history of the world - simply on the say-so of a group of scientists. Would we not want to be absolutely sure that those scientists were 100 per cent dependable in what they were saying?

Should we not then be extremely worried - and even very angry - if it emerged that those scientists had been conspiring among themselves to fiddle the evidence for what they were telling us?

This is the extraordinary position in which we find ourselves thanks to news reported in Saturday's Daily Mail which has raised huge question marks over the reliability of the science behind the theory of global warming.

Hundreds of emails leaked from the internal computer system of the Climate Research Unit at the University of East Anglia show how a small group of highly influential senior British and U.S. scientists have for years been secretly discussing ways in which their evidence could be manipulated to make the threat posed by global warming sound much worse than it is.

To place the significance of these revelations into context, let us recall how exactly a year ago, Parliament passed, virtually unopposed, what was far and away the most expensive new law ever put before it. On the Government's own figures, the Climate Change Act is going to cost Britain £18 billion a year - that's £720 for every household in the country - every year from now until 2050.

10 posted on 11/22/2009 11:17:49 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

That thread is posted on FreeRepublic, just search for the name.

It’s here, everything is on FreeRepublic!


11 posted on 11/22/2009 11:20:22 PM PST by dila813
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To: dila813

I am running out of steam here...need to look at those graphs tomorrow,...1960 might be about where those temps started to go skyward....


12 posted on 11/22/2009 11:21:31 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

It is, when you include 1960 forward, the tree rings diverge from the temperature record.

In otherwords, the proxy didn’t work, it was invalid and they didn’t know why.

Well, if it was wrong 1960 forward, how do they know it wasn’t wrong before 1960.

It seems like a sick assumption on their part.


13 posted on 11/22/2009 11:23:48 PM PST by dila813
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To: dila813
Since they are subbing real temp data after 1960, isn’t this fraud?

From what I can tell, they're using the "fake but accurate" defense, claiming that even if the numbers have been manipulated it's because the original data was wrong and needed to be changed to reflect "true" findings, which coincidentally happens to support global warming.
14 posted on 11/22/2009 11:23:51 PM PST by Terpfen (FR is being Alinskied. Remember, you only take flak when you're over the target.)
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To: dila813
I messed up,...I thought I searched here....

OK

Leaving a link to it:

The devastating book which debunks climate change

Thanks for posted it.

15 posted on 11/22/2009 11:25:14 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Minn

Right....Comments can suggest,...but one has to really study the code.


16 posted on 11/22/2009 11:26:46 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Terpfen

I keep seeing that in all the emails.

The models are right and the observations are wrong.

What a kooky idea, the only people fooled was themselves.


17 posted on 11/22/2009 11:31:24 PM PST by dila813
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To: dila813
Since they are subbing real temp data after 1960, isn’t this fraud?

Many real-temp data after 1960 are crap anyway, due to the urban heat-island effect. Temperature stations in non-rural areas tend to be near asphalt parking lots, A/C exhausts, and other sources of heat that can only skew the temps upwards. The measurement errors are often greater than the alleged "human-caused temperature increases".

See for example

http://www.surfacestations.org/

18 posted on 11/22/2009 11:37:43 PM PST by rfp1234 (R.I.P. Scotty 7/2007-11/2009.)
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To: All
Excellent thread:

Skeptics Handbook II! Global Bullies Want Your Money

19 posted on 11/22/2009 11:40:08 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: rfp1234

No, what I am saying is he said the CRU data matched the observations in the 20th century.

Welllllll, from 1960 on, it didn’t because he compared temperature readings to temperature readings. Of course it would match.

When he made his statement in the report, he just said the CRU data agreed but never told anyone that from 1960 on that he was using the temperature data.

I think that makes it a lie.


20 posted on 11/22/2009 11:42:22 PM PST by dila813
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