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CRU Emails “may” be open to interpretation, but commented code ...... tells the real story
Watts Up With That? ^ | Nov 22 , 2009 | Anthony Watts Editor:

Posted on 11/22/2009 10:49:04 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

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To: I got the rope

ping


21 posted on 11/22/2009 11:43:54 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Post hoc ergo propter post ergo propter post...


22 posted on 11/22/2009 11:47:24 PM PST by The Magical Mischief Tour
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To: kidd

We see the wolrd buying into the old fallacy that garbage is somehow ennobled by passing it through a computer. (I would say a million dollar machine rather than computer, but that is so last century.)


23 posted on 11/22/2009 11:55:28 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America.)
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To: dila813

Stopping the proxy data and splicing in the instrumental record is an even bigger lie.

All proxy data needs to be calibrated to the present. We all knew why they were doing this crap...they were hiding the lack of warming.


24 posted on 11/22/2009 11:56:27 PM PST by I got the rope
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To: I got the rope

You mean they were hiding the lack of warming in the proxy data which means their models are crap.

The instrumental record does show warming.

The whole deck of cards human induced warming is built on though (along with the predictions of coming doom) is that the proxy data predicts future warming that hasn’t happened.

I think this is the core of this lie.

Proxy data doesn’t match the observed temperatures and therefore models are crap and model predictions of global warming in the future are crap.


25 posted on 11/23/2009 12:03:41 AM PST by dila813
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To: dila813

The models have always been crap. I feel sorry for all the real scientists that were systematically ostracized by these aholes.

One in particular comes to mind from reading all these emails...David Legates.

I hope Dr. Legates feels vindicated now.


26 posted on 11/23/2009 12:10:53 AM PST by I got the rope
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fractal Trader; grey_whiskers; markomalley; scripter; Defendingliberty; ...
Thanx !

 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

27 posted on 11/23/2009 2:17:06 AM PST by steelyourfaith (Time to prosecute Al Gore now that fellow scam artist Bernie Madoff is in stir.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
After reading remarks on the infamous HARRY_READ_ME.txt file at various sites, including the Climate Audit MirrorTicker Forum, NeuralNetWriter, etc., this comment by Mike at CA seems to sum it up:

there aren’t any credible data that can be shared and then “improved” by “feedback”. Just look at the harry_readme.txt file – it chronicles some poor guy’s attempts to do just that – “improve” the data, flying by the seats of his pants. At some point, he declares it impossible:

“You can’t imagine what this has cost me – to actually allow the operator to assign false WMO codes!! But what else is there in such situations? Especially when dealing with a ‘Master’ database of dubious provenance (which, er, they all are and always will be).

So with a somewhat cynical shrug, I added the nuclear option – … In other words, what CRU usually do. It will allow bad databases to pass unnoticed, and good databases to become bad, but I really don’t think people care enough to fix ‘em…"


This is malfeasance of epic proportions. Phil Jones knows it – his specific input into this work is mentioned in several places – and tries to hide it. Only choice if he wants to keep his job.

Now he may experience some “unprecedented warming in both hemispheres” (© commenter Phil on Bishop Hill’s blog).


28 posted on 11/23/2009 3:31:13 AM PST by browardchad ("Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own fact." - Daniel P Moynihan)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
When the hack was announced and it was said that the dump included thousands of emails, I was pretty sure that it was genuine because ponying up that volume of stuff to have any level of internal consistency and yet be believable would have been essentially impossible.

But to suppose that someone could also pony up working code that would reproduce previously published data without looking like it was designed merely for that purpose truly beggars imagination. So we know that the dump is, at least predominantly, real info. One does have to admit the possibility of some strategic additions. But still . . .

Things like the comment in the code which this article quotes, being in the calling routine and the called subroutine, and being a just-slightly-different version of a quote in a damaging email, are gonna be really hard to explain away. IMHO.


29 posted on 11/23/2009 3:52:53 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (Anyone who claims to be objective marks himself as hopelessly subjective.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Also posted earlier on WattsUpWithThat is the following (IMHO) Must Watch Video. The video is a 10 minute commentary by Dr. Tim Ball, a climatologist, on the CRU data dump. You will get a fast education on the key issues if you invest the 10 minutes. Well worth your time. Here is the link:

YouTube: Climate Change Bombshell: Dr. Tim Ball on the hacked CRU emails

30 posted on 11/23/2009 4:55:48 AM PST by InterceptPoint
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
I'm thrilled to see what I predicted in my post to you yesterday coming true so quickly!

I thought it would take longer to uncover.

31 posted on 11/23/2009 5:36:28 AM PST by Nervous Tick (Stop dissing drunken sailors! At least they spend their OWN money.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Anthony Watts - “I’ll give Dr. Jones and CRU the benefit of the doubt, maybe these are not “untowards” issues, but these things scream for rational explanations.”

Is he backing off a bit realizing what fools skeptics will look like if there is nothing to this climategate stuff?


32 posted on 11/23/2009 7:05:35 AM PST by chessplayer
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To: All
Picked this link off of another thread:

"Global Warming" SCAM - Hack/Leak FLASH in forum [Ticker]

******************************EXCERPT*************************************

There's a very disturbing "HARRY_READ_ME.txt" file in documents that APPEARS to be somebody trying to fit existing results to data and much of it is about the code that's here. I think there's something very very wrong here...

This file is 15,000 lines of comments, much of it copy/pastes of code or output by somebody (who's harry?) trying to make sense of it all....

33 posted on 11/23/2009 7:36:13 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
 (who's harry?)

Mr. Ian (Harry) Harris, employed at CRU since 1996. Dendroclimatology, climate scenario development, data manipulation and visualisation, programming.

For a photo, see this link. For more info, read the posts by Asimov on that page and subsequent pages.

34 posted on 11/23/2009 7:54:37 AM PST by browardchad ("Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own fact." - Daniel P Moynihan)
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To: browardchad

here’s little about Phil

http://public.lanl.gov/pwjones/


35 posted on 11/23/2009 8:57:22 AM PST by hyperconservative (Remember. Dream. Fight.)
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To: hyperconservative; browardchad
Phil Jones is also the name of the Head of the CRU at Angila, UK...

Perhaps their middle Initial is different...

36 posted on 11/23/2009 9:02:50 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: hyperconservative

and some more:
http://www.climatesciencewatch.org/index.php/csw/details/phil-jones-and-ben-santer-comment-on-cei/
(Oct. 09)

http://anhonestclimatedebate.wordpress.com/2008/11/12/hadley%E2%80%99s-phil-jones-whistling-past-the-graveyard/

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=ZTBiMTRlMDQxNzEyMmRhZjU3ZmYzODI5MGY4ZWI5OWM

http://noconsensus.wordpress.com/2009/11/20/busted-2/

http://sweetness-light.com/archive/emails-that-damn-cru-head-jones

http://motls.blogspot.com/2009/11/hacked-hadley-cru-foi2009-files.html
(from a conservative physicist and w/ good points, I’d say)

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/corporate/pressoffice/2008/pr20081216.html

http://www.skepticalscience.com/What-do-the-hacked-CRU-emails-tell-us.html
(not a true skeptic’s site)

http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/climate-change/world-faces-hottest-year-ever-as-el-nintildeo-combines-with-global-warming-430407.html
(Jan. ‘07)

http://www.climate-resistance.org/tag/phil-jones

http://www.australianclimatemadness.com/

http://www.globalwarming.org/2009/11/21/crus-climate-tricksters-context-is-everything/

http://entry.swenglishrantings.com/?tag=phil-jones
(warning: black background)

http://www.theminorityreportblog.com/hinzsight_story/david_hinz/2009/11/21/climategate_revelations_of_deceit_fraud_and_corruption_in_the_climate_alarmist_community

http://enviroknow.com/tag/phil-jones/

http://confederateyankee.mu.nu/archives/294944.php


37 posted on 11/23/2009 9:19:16 AM PST by hyperconservative (Remember. Dream. Fight.)
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To: InterceptPoint; Nervous Tick; steelyourfaith; chessplayer; browardchad; hyperconservative; Marie; ..
That is outstanding...

Found another Youtube:

Dr. Tim Ball on Alex Jones: The anatomy of a fraud, 'climate change' 1of6

Complete with heavy Music....

38 posted on 11/23/2009 9:20:05 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: hyperconservative
That's the wrong Phil Jones - he's an American.

This is the British Phil Jones who heads the UEA CRU.

Professor Phil Jones

I am the Director of the Climatic Research Unit (CRU) and a Professor in the School of Environmental Sciences at the University of East Anglia in Norwich. I was born in Surrey in 1952 and completed a B.A. in Environmental Sciences at the University of Lancaster in 1973 and an M.Sc. (1974) and Ph.D. (1977) at the Department of Civil Engineering at the University of Newcastle-upon-Tyne. My Ph.D. was titled "A spatially distributed catchment model for flood forecasting and river regulation with particular reference to the River Tyne." 


39 posted on 11/23/2009 9:22:31 AM PST by browardchad ("Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own fact." - Daniel P Moynihan)
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To: All

Regarding link at #38...interview was dated 06/30/09.


40 posted on 11/23/2009 9:26:48 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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