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Conrad: People Who Don’t Believe in Civil Terrorist Trials should 'Leave America Go Somewhere Else’
CNS News ^ | November 25 2009 | Matt Cover

Posted on 11/26/2009 4:16:39 AM PST by IbJensen

CNSNews.com) – Sen. Kent Conrad (D-N.D.) told CNSNews.com that civilian courts are well-suited to prosecute al Qaeda terrorists and that "if people don't believe in our system, maybe they ought to go somewhere else.”

Conrad also dismissed a question about the rights of terrorists captured on foreign battlefields and the rules of evidence in terms of a civilian court trial as not serious.

Attorney General Eric Holder announced on Nov. 13 that five suspects in the 9/11 attacks would be tried in a civilian court in New York City instead of facing a military trial.

On Capitol Hill on Nov. 19, CNSNews.com asked Conrad: “We’re going to have a civilian trial of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed. If our troops--the evidence against him is going to be found in Afghanistan, there on the battlefield--if our troops need to enter a house and they think that there’s evidence there, should they have to establish probable cause and get a search warrant from a judge first?”

Conrad said: “You’re not being serious about these questions, are you?”

CNSNews.com: “[Yes], in a civilian trial. If I was on trial or you were on trial, that would have to be [done].”

Conrad responded, “We have tried terrorists in our courts and done so very successfully in the past and that is our system. So if people don’t believe in our system, maybe they ought to go somewhere else. I believe in America.”

The Fourth Amendment, which protects all defendants in civilian courts, prohibits the government from searching or seizing evidence without first establishing probable cause and obtaining a warrant--based on that probable cause--from a judge.

The Fourth Amendment reads: “The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.”

According to the Supreme Court in Weeks v. United States (1914), the government cannot use evidence obtained without a search warrant.

“The tendency of those who execute the criminal laws of the country to obtain conviction by means of unlawful seizures and enforced confessions, the latter often obtained after subjecting accused persons to unwarranted practices destructive of rights secured by the Federal Constitution, should find no sanction in the judgments of the courts, which are charged at all times with the support of the Constitution, and to which people of all conditions have a right to appeal for the maintenance of such fundamental rights,” the Court found.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: North Dakota
KEYWORDS: 111th; antiamerican; conrad; kentconrad
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These bloviating socialist, America-hating gasbags - Feinstein, Pelosi, Dodd, Conrad, Reid - would be ironical targets for a jihadi terrorist attack in their respective states. The voters could then send them all to a undeserved retirement.

Does anybody, anyone at all still believe we have a representative form of Government? The outright arrogance and stupidity of these criminal senators and those in the other house is astounding!!!

1 posted on 11/26/2009 4:16:40 AM PST by IbJensen
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"if people don't believe in our system, maybe they ought to go somewhere else.”

That's a disgusting comment coming from an elected official.
2 posted on 11/26/2009 4:18:12 AM PST by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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So if people don’t believe in our system, maybe they ought to go somewhere else.

That's good advice senator Conrad. Where would you like to go? A one-way plane ticket's on me.

3 posted on 11/26/2009 4:19:09 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: IbJensen

How many times a day is this story scheduled to be posted? (Just curious.)


4 posted on 11/26/2009 4:21:08 AM PST by samtheman
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To: IbJensen

My solution is this:

Turn the bastards loose. Deliver them back to their homeland.

Then, let the American Warriors hunt them down and kill them.


5 posted on 11/26/2009 4:22:44 AM PST by Glenn (Free Venezuela!)
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“The right of the people to be secure in their persons ...”

Why then is this Conrad tool trying to control my body through fascist health care? Doesn’t he believe in America?


6 posted on 11/26/2009 4:24:00 AM PST by TheVitaminPress (as goes the Second Amendment . . . so goes the Constitution.)
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Excuse me, Senator Comrade, if you want to change America’s traditions then it is you who needs to take a hike.


7 posted on 11/26/2009 4:24:15 AM PST by steelyourfaith (Time to prosecute Al Gore now that fellow scam artist Bernie Madoff is in stir.)
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Shall we start by letting the businesses of North Dakota know “we’re going somewhere else” with our money.

North Dakota Chamber of Commerce
2000 Schafer Street
Box 2639
Bismarck, ND 58502

Phone: 701-222-0929
Toll Free: 800-382-1405
Fax: 701-222-1611


8 posted on 11/26/2009 4:24:36 AM PST by maine yankee
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Don’t you just love the transparency thier parading, this idiot really doesn’t want to get reelected. Dizzy with power he really beleives what he says. I look forward to an interview with him after he is thrown to the curb.


9 posted on 11/26/2009 4:25:14 AM PST by ronnie raygun (Leaders who refuse to lead will be lead by the people)
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Conrad and Holder ought to go elsewhere. They are venue shopping for a good show trial. They are cowards when facing their hard left base.


10 posted on 11/26/2009 4:26:13 AM PST by jimfree (Freep and ye shall find! - I am Joe Wilson)
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America is becoming someplace else under Obama so why bother moving someplace else?


11 posted on 11/26/2009 4:26:32 AM PST by Brugmansian
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The fact that these largely rural state kep electing liberal dufus (dufi?) is a hint at the power of Farm Bill freebies. I doubt the electorate are particularly liberal, either fiscally or morally, but they loves them freebies.


12 posted on 11/26/2009 4:27:08 AM PST by Puddleglum ("due to the record harvest, rationing will continue as usual")
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I think old Kent spells his first name wrong. He is a couple of letters off.


13 posted on 11/26/2009 4:30:39 AM PST by 70th Division (I love my country but fear my government!)
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To: IbJensen

2010 is coming, read my tagline.


14 posted on 11/26/2009 4:33:41 AM PST by Biggirl (Throw The Turkeys Out In 2010!=^..^==^..^==^..^==^..^==^..^=)
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It’s the dems who don’t believe in our system. I wish they would go somewhere else.


15 posted on 11/26/2009 4:36:17 AM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (liberalism is a progressive, degenerative disease of the mind that ends in insanity.)
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To: Biggirl

Jug-ears is marching his Democrat flying monkeys right off of a cliff. By the time the trial in NY gets underway, everyone will be revolted by the lawyers and the murderers. They will be furious at the people that brought this travesty that will be in our faces 24/7.

At the end of the trial both Holders and Jug-ear’s comments have set up an appeal. American’s do not need a lesson on the court system here in the US and the rest of the Muslim world does not care.

These comments that the Democrat flying monkeys are making now will be played over and over when they are running for office.


16 posted on 11/26/2009 4:41:42 AM PST by nj patriot (Gore is beyond help.... Snakes in the head.)
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How many times a day is this story scheduled to be posted? (Just curious.)

Well, Sammy, I did a search and nothing came up so I posted the damned thing! Personally I don't think it can be posted before (assuming it's been posted already) unless there are Conrad fans lurking about!

There. Is your curiosity satisfied?

Have fun with your turkey today. You didn't kill him did you?

17 posted on 11/26/2009 4:49:25 AM PST by IbJensen (America being militarily and economically strong isn't enough: We must be morally strong!)
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I wish they would go somewhere else.

....and take their homosexual and atheist friends with them. I understand that Devil's Island is for sale.

18 posted on 11/26/2009 4:50:28 AM PST by IbJensen (America being militarily and economically strong isn't enough: We must be morally strong!)
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Treason, by any other name - is still TREASON!!!!!


19 posted on 11/26/2009 4:50:42 AM PST by sodpoodle (Stop spreading wealth and start spreading the truth.)
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To: Biggirl
...and throw them all out in 2012.

(I hope I'm still alive to see America's new beginning.)

20 posted on 11/26/2009 4:52:04 AM PST by IbJensen (America being militarily and economically strong isn't enough: We must be morally strong!)
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