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The Case for Jeb Bush Entering the 2012 Race (massive barf alert)
Race42012 ^ | 2009-12-01

Posted on 12/01/2009 8:51:22 PM PST by rabscuttle385

Jeb Bush is unique in that he is both unknown and known. He can certainly win a GOP primary, and can raise the money to compete with frontrunners Palin and Romney. I think Jeb will be getting more involved over the next several months, starting with the Florida senate primary. I also think Cheney is a Jeb proxy, and that his attacks are meant to undermine Obama while moving the country back into the Bush/Cheney policy direction, awaiting a new leader to take the torch from the former Vice President. Remember, Cheney earlier this year, unprompted, suggested he would support Jeb Bush for president in 2012. Considering that there are significant people in the party harping about a Cheney run, as well as a media fascination with such a run, coupled with the realty that a 71 year old with a bad heart simply will not run, opens the door to Jeb Bush taking up the mantle in 2012. Bush would fill that media desire to clash Obama with Cheney, only enhancing it.

With Huckabee and Palin potentially sitting out in 2012, there is a huge opening for someone to take up the anti-Romney position. Bush, with his vast network of connections, his organizing potential, and the generation of political chits collected by the Bush family, puts Jeb in as good a position as a Pawlenty or a Daniels to make a bid and challenge Romney. Now if Palin runs, and the field fills up, then Jeb will likely wait until 2016, or simply stay out of public life and let his son, George P. Bush (nicknamed 47 by the family) take up the presidential legacy down the line.

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: 2012; 2012gopprimary; bush; bush2012; bushdynasty; bushfamily; jebbush; rino; romneyreplacement
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To: jocon307

>>How many politically plugged in people had never heard of Barak Obama three years ago? How many had never heard of Bill Clinton when he was gov. of Ark. Or Palin? Or even Bush, pere, before he was veep?

In this new media age you can go from complete obscurity to household name in a day.
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That, my FRiend, is my feverent hope. We need a white night aright quick.


41 posted on 12/01/2009 9:29:46 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks. Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: freedumb2003
But when all is said and done, we then need to look to the least bad option.

The least bad option is to teach your party to represent your beliefs.

Sometimes that teaching process is very painful for all involved.....like this four years.

The unruly child that is the Republican Party got spanked. If it does not alter its behavior it will get spanked again. And again. And again.

It is not our job to give the party candy when it misbehaves.

I am sorry that our bottom hurts and that it is red and tender. There is a way to stop that from happening. It does not include John McCain or Jeb Bush.
42 posted on 12/01/2009 9:30:31 PM PST by Arkinsaw
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To: Soul Seeker

I grant you that. If I were him I would run for the senate and taken the stance that Rubio has. Like the rest of his family is is not really a conservative. He won’t go against his father.


43 posted on 12/01/2009 9:30:50 PM PST by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: Arkinsaw

>>They should not repeat that. Because I will NOT vote for McCain II any more than I voted for McCain I.<<

Thanks for giving us obama. Any other “help” you would like to offer to keep yourself ideologically pure? Maybe move to California and help keep Boxer and Pelosi in power? I am sure there are many extreme liberals that need your help to keep them in office.


44 posted on 12/01/2009 9:32:44 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks. Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Arkinsaw

>>I am sorry that our bottom hurts and that it is red and tender. There is a way to stop that from happening. It does not include John McCain or Jeb Bush.<<

No, it includes barak hussein obama and michelle obama. And that lash is the freedom and money you gave away in the name of your aggrandized sense of personal importance.

Please, don’t help us anymore. The country can’t take any more patriots like you. We will look like Venezuela if you and your ilk continue to vote what passes for your “conscience.”


45 posted on 12/01/2009 9:35:50 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks. Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: rabscuttle385

No illegal aliens were harmed in making this proposition.


46 posted on 12/01/2009 9:35:54 PM PST by oldbill
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To: rabscuttle385
I also think Cheney is a Jeb proxy, and that his attacks are meant to undermine Obama while moving the country back into the Bush/Cheney policy direction, awaiting a new leader to take the torch from the former Vice President.

Excellent point -- and I'm smacking myself on the forehead for not having seen it. The Bushes and Cheneys are of the same cloth. They trust each other. They share the same core principles and a good number of the same friends and associates. Of course Cheney is a proxy for Jeb. It makes perfect sense.

47 posted on 12/01/2009 9:36:48 PM PST by kittykat77
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To: rabscuttle385
Jeb Bush is unique in that he is both unknown and known. He can certainly win a GOP primary, and can raise the money to compete with frontrunners Palin and Romney. I think Jeb will be getting more involved over the next several months, starting with the Florida senate primary. I also think Cheney is a Jeb proxy, and that his attacks are meant to undermine Obama while moving the country back into the Bush/Cheney policy direction, awaiting a new leader to take the torch from the former Vice President.

Not a chance in h$ll. Jeb knows that America will never elect another Bush to the WH . . . . at least, not in our lifetime. We've had our fill of the political dynasties and he has less than a snowball's chance in h$ll of ever winning a single primary.

In addition, it's time to let Cheney be retired. The man is nearly 70 years old and, as much as I respect and admire him, I really don't think he is up for another stint in government. He's doing fine where he is and doing what he is doing.

IMO, in the FWIW department, Palin is clearly the frontrunner to watch and she needs to pick some new blood for her VP. All of the names being trotted out may be sentimental favorites for some folks here, but doing the same thing over and over (with the same people) has gotten us where we are today and still defines insanity. It's time to move forward and stop looking in the rearview mirror.

48 posted on 12/01/2009 9:36:49 PM PST by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: RobbyS

Jeb would be miserable in the senate. He’s not the “cooperative” type.


49 posted on 12/01/2009 9:38:34 PM PST by goseminoles
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To: freedumb2003
Thanks for giving us obama. Any other “help” you would like to offer to keep yourself ideologically pure? Maybe move to California and help keep Boxer and Pelosi in power? I am sure there are many extreme liberals that need your help to keep them in office.

My vote has to be earned. I don't hand it out for free to anybody who will claim they love me for an hour.

If my vote is not wanted enough to actually nominate a candidate to attract me.....fine. But don't come back after the fact and whine at ME for not handing my vote to your crappy candidate. You are at fault for the crappy candidate.

The customer is always right. The voters are the customers. You didn't get mine.
50 posted on 12/01/2009 9:38:52 PM PST by Arkinsaw
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To: rabscuttle385

This is an interesting topic and I’d like to hear what the analysis is from y’all, because you are the Schmartzest people in the world.

And instead, I get all this emotionalism, sophomoric comments, like it’s the 6th grade Forum. By the way, Pawlenty is in full-scale conquer mode to drive Romney into a second-tier non-factor. I didn’t realize the guy had so many national contacts.

He’s been on Fox News lots. And he comes across better than that Dullsville speech that he gave at the National COnvention in ‘08.


51 posted on 12/01/2009 9:39:04 PM PST by campaignPete R-CT ("pray without ceasing" - Paul of Tarsus)
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To: freedumb2003
No, it includes barak hussein obama and michelle obama. And that lash is the freedom and money you gave away in the name of your aggrandized sense of personal importance.

Please, don’t help us anymore. The country can’t take any more patriots like you. We will look like Venezuela if you and your ilk continue to vote what passes for your “conscience.”


You and your "ilk" can keep voting for people who tell you what you want to hear but do the opposite. You are the one who is self-important and wants the illusion of feeling good about your vote. Your vote for McCain was far more meaningless than my vote.
52 posted on 12/01/2009 9:42:12 PM PST by Arkinsaw
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To: Arkinsaw

I personally think that he is the best out of them all...and, yes, he is no RINO (unlike his brother and father)...besides I would just love to PO all of the lefties again....


53 posted on 12/01/2009 9:42:53 PM PST by gman992
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To: Arkinsaw
The customer is always right. The voters are the customers. You didn't get mine.

Nope -- obama got it. How's that hope and change working for you? Or your kids, grandkids and great-grandkids? How about the troops that are left dangling in Afghanistan? You proud of your decision to strand them and embolden our enemies?

Thanks again -- and when they come to take your gun just like they are taxing your right to exist, just keep repeating to yourself "I am the customer and I am always right."

54 posted on 12/01/2009 9:42:59 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks. Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: freedumb2003

The problem is not purity but the divided nature of the party. The liberals dominate the Congress because they are able to keep the likes of Ben Nelson from controlling the turn of events. We let McCain and Graham control events, when it is clear than in domestic matters they have their own agenda. If the Bobbsey twins from Maine were our only problem, we could handle that. But McCain and Graham—and others we can name—are clearly Establishment figures. The Establishment wants control of both parties. So long as they do, they don’t really care which one wins.


55 posted on 12/01/2009 9:44:10 PM PST by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: Arkinsaw
You and your "ilk" can keep voting for people who tell you what you want to hear but do the opposite. You are the one who is self-important and wants the illusion of feeling good about your vote. Your vote for McCain was far more meaningless than my vote.

No question about it. Your vote for obama won the day.

56 posted on 12/01/2009 9:44:46 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks. Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: RobbyS
The Establishment wants control of both parties. So long as they do, they don’t really care which one wins.

Don't you mean the Military Industrial Complex? The Establishment is, like, so Herbert.

57 posted on 12/01/2009 9:46:27 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks. Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: freedumb2003
I love Sarah. But I am realistic enough to see that she MAY (note I said may) never be able to travel the road we need her for.

That is a vague and unconvincing vote of no confidence on your part.

I won't go into a full dissertation of why Sarah Palin is America's best hope to restore this country to its conservative roots, and how she will help us to root out the leftist corruption now infecting every corner of our government, but you can plainly see it in the trajectory of her political career, and her public service record.

Sarah has guts, determination, honesty, and the one thing that most politicians are lacking in, and that is rock-solid, unshakable core values. She will always make the correct choice in a crisis, because her decisions are informed and guided by her principles. And those principles are 100% conservative, with their roots firmly planted in our American Founding Ideals.

This is what people across the nation are reacting to. They saw the same thing in Ronald Reagan, who was also dismissed and ridiculed by the left-wing press in his time. His defeat of the hapless Jimmy Carter was so devastating, and such an overwhelming repudiation of liberalism, that it knocked the wind right out of the Democrat left.

Sarah Palin will do the same thing in 2012, should she decide to run. There is absolutely no question about that.

58 posted on 12/01/2009 9:46:30 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: goseminoles

Which says a lot in his favor. Funny how fate happens the wrong Bush won a governorship first. I think. W. has a lot of sand that maybe Jeb does not.


59 posted on 12/01/2009 9:47:57 PM PST by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: freedumb2003
You might want to read Jim Robinson's post from the other night. This site does not support voting for RINO's.

As long as the party is lukewarm...I will continue to spit it out. I really don't feel sorry for either you, or Olympia Snowe for having to endure the sort of Presidency you get when you are willing to accept the watering down process.
60 posted on 12/01/2009 9:49:38 PM PST by Arkinsaw
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