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Child welfare services visits Tiger Woods' and Elin Nordegren's home, according to reports
NY Daily News ^ | December 13th 2009 | Katie Nelson

Posted on 12/13/2009 11:23:21 AM PST by FTJM

The Florida Department of Children and Families paid a visited Tiger Woods' Florida home on Saturday, according to reports.

The agency went to the golfer's mansion mid-day, accompanied by a marked police car, radaronline.com reports without naming information sources.

Officials, though, wouldn't confirm or deny the report.

"Child abuse, adult investigations in the state of Florida are confidential," said Carrie Hoeppner, an agency spokeswoman, told the Daily News. "I'm just not able by law to give confirmation about whether we visited the family and that is in the interest of protecting the child."

It's protocol for the state department to investigate domestic violence that occurs in homes.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: chat; cheetah; tiger; tigerobsession; tigerwoods

1 posted on 12/13/2009 11:23:22 AM PST by FTJM
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To: FTJM

2 posted on 12/13/2009 11:26:34 AM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: FTJM

Time for the Woods family to move away from the U.S.

Obviously the Fl Gov. seems to think their job is to totally destroy The Woods Family lives.

Maybe the National enquirer is desperate to keep the story going.

This is SICK.


3 posted on 12/13/2009 11:32:12 AM PST by Marty62 (former Marty60)
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To: FTJM
Sounds like SOP to me. Given the (unconfirmed) media reports of Elin going on a rampage prior to Tiger's doomed escape, can you imagine the outrage that would ensue if they DIDN'T investigate? Living in a mansion doesn't exempt one from "the child services".

No surprises here. But it's a drag nonetheless -- now The State will get their sticky fingers on this and ride it for their own 15 minutes of fame...

4 posted on 12/13/2009 11:35:32 AM PST by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: Marty62

I don’t think the FL government has to do anything to destroy Tiger Woods’ life. He’s doing a swell job on his own.


5 posted on 12/13/2009 11:35:48 AM PST by MizSterious (Do you not think an angel rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm? John Page, 1744-1808)
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To: Marty62

Moral compass - you have none.


6 posted on 12/13/2009 11:39:54 AM PST by WaterBoard
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To: dayglored

Considering the police should have investigated DV at the scene (and tested Woods for sobriety), the state is doing what should have been done in the first place.


7 posted on 12/13/2009 11:40:02 AM PST by FTJM
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To: JoeProBono

It’s Flor-i-duh.

Some of the worst DSS workers in the world reside in that state.

They can conceive of some of the dumbest things to impede families, and ignore some really horrible, obvious problems in others.

I hated dealing with them professionally.


8 posted on 12/13/2009 11:40:07 AM PST by OpusatFR (Tagline not State Approved. Thoughts not State Approved. Actions not State Approved)
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To: Marty62
"Time for the Woods family to move away from the U.S."

Well, Sweden is the last place you'd want to go if you want a refuge from the 'social services' nanny state.

9 posted on 12/13/2009 11:40:32 AM PST by AIM-54
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To: FTJM

Wanna bet his attorneys are scared he won’t be able to pay their fees after Elin takes him to the cleaners so they sicked CPS on her?


10 posted on 12/13/2009 11:40:36 AM PST by bgill (The framers of the US Constitution established an entire federal government in 18 pages.)
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To: Marty62

No...I don’t think the government or Governor of Florida is ‘destroying’ Tiger’s life. He had done a pretty bang up job on that all by himself.

Police/ambulances have been at the Woods manse multiple time since Thanksgiving...Child Welfare paying a visit is pretty standard given the young ages of the minor children involved.


11 posted on 12/13/2009 11:42:33 AM PST by PennsylvaniaMom (She's not quitting...she's reloading.)
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To: Marty62

The National Enquirer has had very little to do with this story outside of the Rachel Uchitel story.


12 posted on 12/13/2009 11:42:44 AM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: JoeProBono

If somebody filed a complaint you can be sure they will come an knock on your door and they will get in!!!


13 posted on 12/13/2009 11:43:54 AM PST by danamco
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To: dayglored

getting angry at your husband for cheating on you is not abuse of your children.

of course, going into someone’s home with the potential of taking their children because they had an argument is an abuse... of power.


14 posted on 12/13/2009 11:47:55 AM PST by sten
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To: JoeProBono

I am glad his Father didnt have to see what a sick bastard Tiger turned into.

Tiger will never return now that the PGA started drug testing.


15 posted on 12/13/2009 11:48:10 AM PST by NoLibZone (If Reagan rises & runs I'll vote. Pure Conservative¬ô know it's better to have Obama, Ayers & Soros.)
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To: FTJM
So now screwing around on the old lady is a matter for the state. Ok, lets see a record of all the politicians homes they have showed up at.
16 posted on 12/13/2009 11:49:57 AM PST by org.whodat
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To: Marty62
Yep, they're after Elin here, and are looking to control the kids.

Elin should have bolted for Sweden with the kids while Tiger was in the hospital. She would get fair treatment there.

17 posted on 12/13/2009 11:50:38 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Sarah and the Conservatives will rock your world.)
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To: Marty62
Obviously the Fl Gov. seems to think their job is to totally destroy The Woods Family lives.

Correct!!

18 posted on 12/13/2009 11:50:43 AM PST by org.whodat
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To: org.whodat
Mean while where is the little black girl the state of Florida, and child protective services, was responsible for.
19 posted on 12/13/2009 11:52:13 AM PST by org.whodat
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To: JoeProBono

As some FReeper commented about that pic the other day....”Sheesh! Was he doing the dog too??”


20 posted on 12/13/2009 11:54:08 AM PST by ErnBatavia (It's not the Obama Administration....it's the "Obama Regime".)
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To: FTJM

The real question here is whether there has been a complaint of some kind, or if Big Brother has undertaken this all on his own. If it’s the latter, welcome to the VERY FRIGHTENING fascist state.


21 posted on 12/13/2009 11:56:17 AM PST by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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To: bgill

It’s possible that Tiger’s Mom reported Elin, no one knows and probably will never know what caused CPS to get involved.


22 posted on 12/13/2009 12:23:56 PM PST by FTJM
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To: FTJM

“what caused CPS to get involved”

Don’t rule out ideology. Tiger Woods dissed Bill Klintoon once, refusing to meet with the d*ck-in-chief during a tournament. And his late father was a proud veteran.

If Tiger had the views of say, Danny Glover, he wouldn’t be getting nearly as much invasive scrutiny, JMHO.


23 posted on 12/13/2009 12:30:27 PM PST by elcid1970 ("O Muslim! My bullets are dipped in pig grease!")
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To: elcid1970

He sure has gotten special treatment up until this point.


24 posted on 12/13/2009 12:41:41 PM PST by FTJM
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To: Marty62; JoeProBono
Tiger is the only one, unless you count his hookers and his enablers, who has destroyed his life.

It is possible Elin's mother contacted them after observing something Tiger did. Sociopaths have no conscience.

Joe, that picture is the first one where I see Tiger's daughter smile. All the pictures and clips I have seen of her, she looks sad or frightened or confused.

Have any of Tiger's siblings have come out to defend him?

25 posted on 12/13/2009 12:41:52 PM PST by Jane Austen (Boycott the Philadelphia Eagles!)
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To: PennsylvaniaMom

I meant Government...the LEOs etc.


26 posted on 12/13/2009 1:05:56 PM PST by Marty62 (former Marty60)
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To: Marty62

Make sure Tiger pays you in advance in cash for your PR services. Liquidity might become an issue if a nasty court fight breaks out.


27 posted on 12/13/2009 1:49:13 PM PST by PAR35
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To: Marty62
Obviously the Fl Gov. seems to think their job is to totally destroy The Woods Family lives.

I'm no fan of CPS and don't think they have any business here. However, maybe you haven't heard what Tiger Woods has done to destroy his family? I don't think that the FL gov had anything to do with it.

28 posted on 12/13/2009 2:01:30 PM PST by It's me
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To: dayglored

If it’s possible/probable that golf clubs were being used as weapons by mom and/or dad, I guess it sorta makes sense a danger might exist in the home. Florida CPS is incredibly flawed, though, so this might be a catch-22 situation.


29 posted on 12/13/2009 2:08:11 PM PST by MayflowerMadam (Never argue with a man whose job depends on not being convinced. (Mencken))
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To: FTJM
The Florida Department of Children and Families paid a visited Tiger Woods' Florida home on Saturday, according to reports.

Now THIS is really getting out of hand if true.......and totally assinine reporting if not.

radaronline.com reports without naming information sources.

Forget anonymous sources, anonymous sources should never be protected when it comes to news reports.......

30 posted on 12/13/2009 2:09:40 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (I want a hoochie-mama for Christmas, only a hoochie-mama will do............)
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To: NoLibZone

“I am glad his Father didnt have to see what a sick bastard Tiger turned into.”

IIRC, dear ol’ dad had his own fidelity issues. Believe he and his wife divorced over it. (Again, IIRC.)


31 posted on 12/13/2009 2:10:19 PM PST by MayflowerMadam (Never argue with a man whose job depends on not being convinced. (Mencken))
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To: FTJM
the state is doing what should have been done in the first place.

Thats total Bull crap and you know it! Child Protective Svcs. nationwide is the most incompetent govt. agency in this whole bloated government bureaucracy and to imply that they should have investigated the Woods household following a domestic dispute between husband and wife is not only assinine but totally moronic!

Especially, ESPECIALLY if there was no complaint called in to the police claiming domestic violence.

By your own twisted and idiotic logic, every single person being cited for careless driving should have your CPS demand access to your household to check on your children.......

You are so wrapped up in this Woods thing that you can't even think straight.............

Child protective services.........give me a F'n break!

32 posted on 12/13/2009 2:20:37 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (I want a hoochie-mama for Christmas, only a hoochie-mama will do............)
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To: sten
> getting angry at your husband for cheating on you is not abuse of your children.

Of course not. However, physical "domestic violence" directed at a spouse (one can easily imagine an enraged Elin going after Tiger swinging a golf club) most often IS an accurate warning indicator for danger to the children in the majority of such cases. The agency can't make exceptions before the investigation, only afterward.

> of course, going into someone’s home with the potential of taking their children because they had an argument is an abuse... of power.

Under most circumstances, if kids DO get harmed, we all chime in "And where were the agencies all this time?". Can't have it both ways. They didn't just "have an argument", she ran out of the house swinging a golf club around with sufficient force to take out the windows in his car while he was driving it away from her. Or do you really believe that story about how she only used the club to help him out of the car later?

Don't misunderstand -- I think the situation is indeed as it appears to us: No threat to the kids at all from either parent, especially Elin. I'm sure the investigation will come out that the kids were not in any real danger. But it was not just an argument -- there was physical violence directed by one spouse at the other, and physical damage. They have to follow up.

33 posted on 12/13/2009 2:26:31 PM PST by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: Jane Austen
Have any of Tiger's siblings have come out to defend him?

Does Tiger have any siblings?

34 posted on 12/13/2009 2:37:49 PM PST by uncitizen
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To: Hot Tabasco
Thats total Bull crap and you know it! Child Protective Svcs. nationwide is the most incompetent govt. agency in this whole bloated government bureaucracy and to imply that they should have investigated the Woods household following a domestic dispute between husband and wife is not only assinine but totally moronic!

Especially, ESPECIALLY if there was no complaint called in to the police claiming domestic violence.

By your own twisted and idiotic logic, every single person being cited for careless driving should have your CPS demand access to your household to check on your children.......

You are so wrapped up in this Woods thing that you can't even think straight.............

Child protective services.........give me a F'n break!

You don't know that someone didn't call CPS. Chances are, they did. I wouldn't bet against someone in Tiger's camp, given the reports that she will file for divorce. Get ready for a nasty one.

My logic is that someone probably reported possible domestic violence and by law CPS has to investigate, that's how it works. There was obvious domestic violence and an attempt to hide it, coupled with reckless behavior. The POLICE SHOULD HAVE INVESTIGATED DOMESTIC ASSAULT AND DRUG USE but they DIDN'T, so here we are.

Interesting that you think domestic violence and drug use which caused a crash is not serious. Imagine if he made it out of the community gate or someone was on the street.

35 posted on 12/13/2009 2:37:49 PM PST by FTJM
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To: FTJM
You don't know that someone didn't call CPS

Neither do do you..........My logic is that someone probably reported possible domestic violence and by law CPS has to investig

Your logic is flawed and completely stupid. But giving you the benefit of the doubt, I heard from one of your anonymous neighbors that you were seen slapping your spouse then one of your children so performing my civic duty, I called CPS to report you........

They should be arriving at your home shortly..........

36 posted on 12/13/2009 3:06:18 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (I want a hoochie-mama for Christmas, only a hoochie-mama will do............)
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To: Hot Tabasco
Neither do do you..........My logic is that someone probably reported possible domestic violence and by law CPS has to investig

Your logic is flawed and completely stupid. But giving you the benefit of the doubt, I heard from one of your anonymous neighbors that you were seen slapping your spouse then one of your children so performing my civic duty, I called CPS to report you........

They should be arriving at your home shortly....

You're clueless. People call CPS all the time and report domestic violence and drug abuse, esp when divorce is involved. You don't like it? Tell it to your life partner.

37 posted on 12/13/2009 3:12:05 PM PST by FTJM
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To: FTJM

CPS is obligated to follow anonymous tips regarding child abuse. The visits are mandatory and don’t mean anything until the investigation is complete.


38 posted on 12/13/2009 3:14:34 PM PST by Rebelbase
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To: uncitizen

I read on one of the threads that Tiger Woods has several siblings.


39 posted on 12/13/2009 3:16:42 PM PST by apocalypto
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To: dayglored

oh, i’m sorry... you misunderstand me.

the kids are the kids of those adults. their well being is the SOLE responsibility of the adults. the only time i would be in favor of the govt stepping in would be in the death/incapacitation of the parents and no close family can step up.

crazy me... i’m not on board with the nanny state. you are responsible for you and yours. period. if you abuse your kids, you should be advised otherwise... and asked to leave the community if you continue... otherwise, it’s not my responsibility to raise your kids for you.

going passed that point would be the slippery slope we find ourselves on today. where does it end? it only ends when the fedgov is coddling your spawn from womb to tomb.


40 posted on 12/13/2009 3:50:31 PM PST by sten
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To: FTJM
It’s possible that Tiger’s Mom reported Elin, no one knows and probably will never know what caused CPS to get involved.

Oh yeah. Considering Elin is going to take the children out of the country, Tiger's Mom will do anything to keep her grand-children close by.

And remember, it was ELIN who beat up Tiger. And to his credit, he didn't strike back..

sw

41 posted on 12/13/2009 3:58:44 PM PST by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: FTJM

Well if the Florida Department of destruction of families and Child abuse Gestapo has arrived he is toast.

He best take his wife and kids and leave fast.


42 posted on 12/13/2009 4:00:55 PM PST by flash2368
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To: spectre
And remember, it was ELIN who beat up Tiger. And to his credit, he didn't strike back

Yup. A real upstanding guy.

43 posted on 12/13/2009 4:26:58 PM PST by FrdmLvr ("The people will believe what the media tells them they believe." Orwell)
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To: FTJM

I think I’ll just sit back and watch all the Freepers make fools of themselves opining without facts.


44 posted on 12/13/2009 4:31:51 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (:: The government will do for health care what it did for real estate. ::)
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To: JoeProBono

Oh, come on. Isn’t anybody going to reference that photo and declare Elin “not guilty”?

And where are all the “hit it” photos?


45 posted on 12/13/2009 4:33:24 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (:: The government will do for health care what it did for real estate. ::)
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To: sten
> i’m not on board with the nanny state. you are responsible for you and yours. period.

At the philosophical level, I agree with you. I'm not in favor of the state stepping in, in a case like this. I'm just saying, given that they are there already today, we shouldn't be surprised or shocked that they step in now.

> if you abuse your kids, you should be advised otherwise... and asked to leave the community if you continue...

A question: Who "asks" the offender to leave the community, with sufficient power behind the "asking" to enforce it if the offender ignores it? A posse of concerned neighbors?

46 posted on 12/13/2009 6:00:00 PM PST by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: NoLibZone
Tiger will never return now that the PGA started drug testing.

I'd love to know if he is juicing.

47 posted on 12/13/2009 6:23:09 PM PST by FTJM
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To: FTJM

Another view of this is the FHP handled the case badly (allowing Woods to refuse bloodwork/breathalyzer AND coming back to the Woods manse and repeatedly being turned away. Please...let any nonBillionaire try either of those tactics)...so FHP could be getting a lot of criticism, and other state agencies (like CPS...who would usually be involved given the amount of police activity at the address in the last two weeks).

I personally hope Elin, her mom and the two babies make to that mansion on the Swedish island. Get out of Florida, away from Woods and his army of enablers.


48 posted on 12/13/2009 8:10:42 PM PST by PennsylvaniaMom (She's not quitting...she's reloading.)
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To: PennsylvaniaMom
I personally hope Elin, her mom and the two babies make to that mansion on the Swedish island. Get out of Florida, away from Woods and his army of enablers.

Yep.

49 posted on 12/13/2009 9:14:01 PM PST by FTJM
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To: All
I realize there is a giant guilt factor here due to TW actions.
Yet everyone REFUSES to address my issue.

I FIND SOCIETIES PREOCCUPATION WITH COMMON SLUTS (FORGET ELIN AND THE KIDS FOR A MOMENT),A NATIONAL EMBARASSMENT
SINCE WHEN IS IT ACCEPTABLE FOR A WHORE (YES THESE TRAMPS EXPECT A PAYDAY) TO BE GIVEN CELEBRITY STATUS?

I just see this whole issue as a statement on the pathetic state of our Society.

50 posted on 12/14/2009 7:31:23 AM PST by Marty62 (former Marty60)
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