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Is Romney a Big Loser in Senate Compromise?
American Spectator ^ | 2009-12-15 | Philip Klein

Posted on 12/15/2009 9:47:07 AM PST by rabscuttle385

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On Twitter, Politico's Ben Smith asks, "At this point, how is current proposal substantially different from Romneycare?"

The answer is, it ain't.

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So now, if Obamacare passes, Romney will be left telling angry primary voters that the only real difference between the two plans is that he implemented his policies at the state level, while Obama did it through the federal government. Sure, it's clearly worse if the federal government is implementing bad policies, but it's hard to see how such an argument would pass muster with anybody but those who are already ardent Romney supporters. It's sort of like saying, "As governor, I raised state income taxes, but the thought of raising federal income taxes -- that's an outrage!"

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: mittbot; mittbots; mittromney; mittwit; mittwits; mormon; rino; romney; romneycare; slickmitt; slickwillard; stenchofromney
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It's sort of like saying, "As governor, I raised state income taxes, but the thought of raising federal income taxes -- that's an outrage!"


1 posted on 12/15/2009 9:47:08 AM PST by rabscuttle385
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To: rabscuttle385

Romney’s toast. Bob Dole has a better chance of winning the nomination than Romney does.


2 posted on 12/15/2009 9:49:02 AM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: OldDeckHand

My dog has a better chance


3 posted on 12/15/2009 9:50:36 AM PST by gibtx2 (End Tenure)
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To: rabscuttle385

I think Rumney sleeps with Arnold.


4 posted on 12/15/2009 9:52:47 AM PST by IbJensen (A Prayer for Obama (Ps 109.8): "Let his days be few; and let another take his position.")
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To: rabscuttle385

Romney’s the big loser anytime Sarah appears on tv, on radio, in the press, makes a public appearance, gives a speech, need I go on? Romney should give up any plans he has for the 2012 nomination and save some of his money for his children’s inheritance, because if he uses his own money again it will just be thrown to the wind.

Williard is about the most two-faced politican I’ve ever seen or read about. So, big loser, yes, just about in everything he’s done in the last three or four years or so.


5 posted on 12/15/2009 9:53:43 AM PST by BlueStateBlues (Blue State business, Red State heart. . . . .Palin 2012----can't come soon enough!)
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To: rabscuttle385
Please correct headline:

Is Romney a Bigger Loser in Senate Compromise?

6 posted on 12/15/2009 9:53:45 AM PST by 11th Commandment (History doesn't repeat itself, but it does rhyme - Mark Twain)
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To: rabscuttle385

No, Romney is just a big loser.


7 posted on 12/15/2009 9:55:03 AM PST by Redbob (W.W.J.B.D.: "What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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To: rabscuttle385

Romney should not be in breaking news.


8 posted on 12/15/2009 9:56:13 AM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: rabscuttle385

(It’s a trap, right? Anyone supporting romney on this thread will get zotted! OK, mum’s the word...)


9 posted on 12/15/2009 10:00:35 AM PST by paulycy (Demand Constitutionality.)
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To: rabscuttle385
"So now, if Obamacare passes, Romney will be left telling angry primary voters that the only real difference between the two plans is that he implemented his policies at the state level, while Obama did it through the federal government. Sure, it's clearly worse if the federal government is implementing bad policies, but it's hard to see how such an argument would pass muster with anybody but those who are already ardent Romney supporters."

Well, I have to say this is totally wrong. While I don't like or support Massacheussett's health care system, and think it was a bad decision on Romney's part, to say that there's no difference between policy made on the federal level and policy made on the state level, even if they're substantially similar, is to completely undermine the notion of federalism - one of the fundamental conceptual and functional components of the republic and a key tenet of conservatism.

"The government of the United States is a definite government, confined to specified objects. It is not like state governments, whose powers are more general. Charity is no part of the legislative duty of the government." -- James Madison

10 posted on 12/15/2009 10:02:21 AM PST by americanophile (Merry Christmas!)
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To: OldDeckHand

Disagree. Leftist RINO Mr. Romney has much more money than Bob Dole, thus more influence over the Leftist RINO leadership that has evolved in the Republican Party.

To the Leftists Money and Hair are everything (depending on which side of the Leftist lava dome you are).

I think that is the reason we see so much of Leftist RINO Mr. McPain trying like “H” to sound Conservative recently. He see’s the RINO Mr. Romney purchasing the Party favors, thus seeks the Conservative support he has previously shunned for his next run at the WH.

No, No to the lot of them.


11 posted on 12/15/2009 10:02:42 AM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...Call 'em What you Will, They ALL have Fairies Living In Their Trees.)
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To: rabscuttle385
"So now, if Obamacare passes, Romney will be left telling angry primary voters that the only real difference between the two plans is that he implemented his policies at the state level, while Obama did it through the federal government. Sure, it's clearly worse if the federal government is implementing bad policies, but it's hard to see how such an argument would pass muster with anybody but those who are already ardent Romney supporters."

Well, I have to say this is totally wrong. While I don't like or support Massachusetts' health care system, and think it was a bad decision on Romney's part, to say that there's no difference between policy made on the federal level and policy made on the state level, even if they're substantially similar, is to completely undermine the notion of federalism - one of the fundamental conceptual and functional components of the republic and a key tenet of conservatism.

"The government of the United States is a definite government, confined to specified objects. It is not like state governments, whose powers are more general. Charity is no part of the legislative duty of the government." -- James Madison

12 posted on 12/15/2009 10:02:53 AM PST by americanophile (Merry Christmas!)
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To: rabscuttle385

Is romney a big loser in senate compromise??? No, but he is a big loser...........


13 posted on 12/15/2009 10:03:09 AM PST by joe fonebone (I am racist, hear me roar....I don't give a crap anymore....)
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To: rabscuttle385

America is the biggest loser.


14 posted on 12/15/2009 10:10:41 AM PST by GeronL (Join the Palin Beer Summit Putsch!!)
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To: rabscuttle385

On Twitter, Politico’s Ben Smith asks, “At this point, how is current proposal substantially different from Romneycare?”

The answer is, it ain’t.


Ce la Vie Monsieur Romney. President Palin it is then, full speed ahead!


15 posted on 12/15/2009 10:16:25 AM PST by Grunthor (There is no such thing as unconditional love.)
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To: rabscuttle385

Does anyone besides the uber-liberal and biased lamestream media like this guy? He is a slick talking leftist from a marxist state and totally disgusts me. I will work very hard to defeat him in the primaries and if by some miracle he gets the nod I will work even harder to defeat him in the general.


16 posted on 12/15/2009 10:16:29 AM PST by JerseyDvl (Dedicated Palinista who is suffering from an extreme case of Baracknaphobia. Severe reaction to BS!)
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To: 11th Commandment

> Please correct headline:
> Is Romney a Bigger Loser in Senate Compromise?

May I suggest yet a different headline ...

Romney is a Big Loser


17 posted on 12/15/2009 10:16:33 AM PST by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: rabscuttle385

The 2012 race will be all about REPEAL of Obamacare.
Hence Romney will not be a part of it (unless he chooses to become Lou Dobbs’ running mate on the neo-Perotist Bullmoose ticket...)


18 posted on 12/15/2009 10:17:38 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: paulycy

“(It’s a trap, right? Anyone supporting romney on this thread will get zotted! OK, mum’s the word...)”

What is wrong with Zotting the romneybots?


19 posted on 12/15/2009 10:27:48 AM PST by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: rabscuttle385

I like Romney personnaly. He seems like a nice guy. However, when someone is against abortion, then runs for office in Mass and is for abortion, then runs for President and is now against abortion, I have to question him.

I don’t mind one flip flop on abortion going either way. But when you flip, then flop and then flip back again. Well, that’s too much for me and smacks of politics. Which means (to me) he’s an empty suit politically and can’t be trusted when elected.


20 posted on 12/15/2009 10:27:49 AM PST by Old Teufel Hunden
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