Posted on 12/15/2009 12:27:51 PM PST by LdSentinal
In a blow to the bill grinding through the Senate, Howard Dean bluntly called for the bill to be killed in a pre-recorded interview set to air later this afternoon, denouncing it as “the collapse of health care reform in the United States Senate,” the reporter who conducted the interview tells me.
Dean said the removal of the Medicare buy-in made the bill not worth supporting, and urged Dem leaders to start over with the process of reconciliation in the interview, which is set to air at 5:50 PM today on Vermont Public Radio, political reporter Bob Kinzel confirms to me.
The gauntlet from Dean — whose voice on health care is well respsected among liberals — will energize those on the left who are mobilizing against the bill, and make it tougher for liberals to embrace the emerging proposal. In an excerpt Kinzel gave me, Dean says:
“This is essentially the collapse of health care reform in the United States Senate. Honestly the best thing to do right now is kill the Senate bill, go back to the House, start the reconciliation process, where you only need 51 votes and it would be a much simpler bill.”
Kinzel added that Dean essentially said that if Democratic leaders cave into Joe Lieberman right now they’ll be left with a bill that’s not worth supporting.
Dean had previously endorsed the Medicare buy-in compromise without a public option, saying that the key question should be whether the bill contains enough “real reform” to be worthy of progressives’ support. Dean has apparently concluded that the “real reform” has been removed at Lieberman’s behest — which won’t make it easier for liberals to swallow the emerging compromise.
Dr. Dean is a little petty man and this is his way of getting even with 0bama for not getting an appointment.
Whoooaa! I never saw you post anything with that large a file size before!
The current bill with all its lunatic mandates is a monstrosity that will destroy the middle class.
I’d sooner have single-payer (with its tax increases and its ruination of our health care system) than this.
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Check the folder!
Cutting this one down in filesize by gooing to just 4 frames cut 2/3rds bytes
Reducing W-x-H would cut sharpness on this one - so I stayed with it - but did not go to 980 width!
Wow! I never thought I would be in agreement with Howard Dean on anything.
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Only by default, but we’ll take it! He’s coming from the far left and us, we’re coming from America!
That’s the idea.
Are you ready for the revolution?
Do you the guts to hang, draw and quarter the traitots?
I do...The time has come to “lock and load.”
Too far right far them, it is.
He was being interviewed by a news man in Australia. The question was about the status of the health care legislation.
Mark Steyn: I would put it this way, that the Republicans have made the mistake of getting into a lot of arguments about the details on this, and I think the people who are pushing for this have a much clearer understanding, that you get it through in any shape whatsoever, and anything that you want to do to it can be done once it's in position, that the natural ratchet effect of big government will take care of it once it's there. And I don't think, to be honest, that my fellow conservatives are quite aware of what a game changer this is in political terms, and they will be in for a rude awakening if this thing manages to wiggle through.
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There was a good, energetic crowd today in Upper Senate Park. People ready to go visit all the offices of senators. However no democratic senators were in their offices. They were all up at the White House for a confab with The One.
I am convinced that said confab was called AFTER the Rally of people against more government takeover was scheduled.
Democrats are despicable!!!!!
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V 1.0 would melt the dialupers!
...while claiming they’re done with the Dem party.
Too far right far them, it is.
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LOL. They’re having the same problem with their party, as we have with ours...only they want to socialize (and in so doing destroy), where we’re looking to eschew the heavy hand of government and promote Freedom values.
If this fails, watch their infighting and bickering get REALLY intense...this IS their religion...this is that they LIVE for. I and many of us live for God and family (and country)...
Don’t know. Don’t see many people complain anymore, and more graphics are being posted.
Getting all these egos to agree on something is like trying to herd cats.
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Which is why big gubmint can’t do much very well (save probably defense and maybe Interstate Highways...)
The invisible hand of market forces are SO much more efficient and effective at accomplishing most things in life.
come back next year and quietly add everything to it then.
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Ya think it’ll be quietly? I think we’ll have some LOUD things to say/do about that.
With 51 votes they can put back in what Lieberman had taken out and even might get the Feds paying for abortion back into the bill and then pass the bill with 51 or more votes in the senate. - tom
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In which case, the country will be in open revolt against the RATS.
Check out the latest on the health care reform debate from Sen. Tom Coburn, M.D., and Sen. John Barrasso, M.D., the Senate’s only two doctors:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pfr1SLC2sUM
When slugs like Dean feel free to spew dissonance, you can bet the fix is in and the entire exercise is a study in misdirection and deception.
Dean will become champion of the single-payer solution that will “solve” the problem of the “failure” of private insurance companies caused by the Obama-Reid-Pelosi bill.
He is now simply positioning himself for that role.
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Right. And given the chance, he’ll turn that inevitable failure into and EPIC FAILURE.
Let’s not give him that chance.
When slugs like Dean feel free to spew dissonance, you can bet the fix is in and the entire exercise is a study in misdirection and deception.
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Right. Many here have been speculating about this for months...it’s rather sickening to watch.
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That is true
Did not think of that
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