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After Complaint About a Star, an Order to Remove Religious Symbols
El Paso Inc ^ | 12/23/2009

Posted on 12/23/2009 9:10:48 AM PST by markomalley

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1 posted on 12/23/2009 9:10:48 AM PST by markomalley
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To: markomalley

Then he noticed his straight ticket to H@LL! Leave us alone, d@mn you atheist.


2 posted on 12/23/2009 9:12:59 AM PST by cameraeye (A happy kufir!)
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To: markomalley

Atheist killjoy ping


3 posted on 12/23/2009 9:14:01 AM PST by bubbacluck
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To: markomalley

Some kind old Christian should stick a star up this “veteran’s” ass.


4 posted on 12/23/2009 9:14:44 AM PST by Dogbert41
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To: markomalley
His overt lack of religion offends me.
5 posted on 12/23/2009 9:14:49 AM PST by El Sordo
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To: markomalley

SIX STARS?????? THANK GOD HE STOPPED THIS FORCING OF RELIGION DOWN OUR THROATS! The gaul of the city to add stars to a Christmas tree! Next year they might be so bold as to add candy canes. THE HORROR!!!!!!

So he just turned around a “saw” the offening star? And found something that offended him last year? What loser trolls city buildings looking to be offended?


6 posted on 12/23/2009 9:15:59 AM PST by mockingbyrd (Sarah speaks for me!)
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To: markomalley
This Sudley puke sounds like a one man private pope. He knows what's religious and what's just a decoration ~ like his buds in the government who put on their best black jackboots and went down and began stripping the tree.

Obviously he doesn't understand anything the Supreme Court has ever said.

7 posted on 12/23/2009 9:16:12 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: markomalley
If you are going to b*$*(# about stars and angels on a tree you brought inside for no apparent reason, I expect you to be working hard at your desk on December 25 at regular pay. If the idea of Christmas offends you that much, then you don't get the day off.
8 posted on 12/23/2009 9:17:03 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Gore is the fifth horseman of the apocalypse. He rides an icy horse bringing cold wherever he goes.)
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To: markomalley

What a jerk. Goes around looking for things he decides are offensive. Why can’t private citizens display their own property in a public workplace?


9 posted on 12/23/2009 9:17:16 AM PST by doodad
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To: markomalley

Sounds like Moscow on the Bay.


10 posted on 12/23/2009 9:17:31 AM PST by screaminsunshine (!!)
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To: markomalley

But this a$$wipe has no problem with the 50 stars on the flag he fought for?


11 posted on 12/23/2009 9:18:41 AM PST by mazda77 (Rubio for US Senate - West FL22nd - Dockery for Gov.)
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To: markomalley

Keep his no-god god worldview out of the workplace too.

The same text that says the government cannot establish a state religion cannot use the power of the state to block or ridicule same beliefs.

The atheist supremacists seek to make atheism the only promoted religious view by the State.


12 posted on 12/23/2009 9:18:53 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Question authority!Who is the University of East Anglia to drive the 'Global Climate Change' agenda?)
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To: markomalley

The removal and total absence of a star is a statement of his beliefs. But, of course, he wouldn’t see it as that.


13 posted on 12/23/2009 9:19:13 AM PST by bgill (The framers of the US Constitution established an entire federal government in 18 pages.)
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To: markomalley

Won’t California be falling off into the ocean soon? All that stupid weighs too much.

Apparently California chooses atheism and Californian Americans are pleased to deny God and our Constitutional guarantee of freedom of religious expression.


14 posted on 12/23/2009 9:19:26 AM PST by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: markomalley
Are atheists really fundamentalists?
15 posted on 12/23/2009 9:20:53 AM PST by Schnucki
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To: mockingbyrd; Revolting cat!

Obama’s White House tree has a portrait of Mao, a portrait of a transexual, and Obama pictured on Mt. Rushmore.

Maybe that is the god this man wants.

Sing some new carols:

“I’ll have a RED Christmas, comrade...”

“Christmas in the gulag...”


16 posted on 12/23/2009 9:21:05 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Question authority!Who is the University of East Anglia to drive the 'Global Climate Change' agenda?)
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To: markomalley
As Icwhatudo observed when this was posted about an hour ago, "Irv Sutley, a disabled 65-year-old Marine veteran"...

"Thats like simply describing hitler as a former WW1 veteran. Google this guy! He was accused in a murder for hire plot, provided a gun to someone accused in a terrorist attack on a US military base, and was a member of the communist party. Do your homework on this loser!"

17 posted on 12/23/2009 9:23:29 AM PST by La Lydia
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To: markomalley
so that we can celebrate the season yet not appear to endorse Christian or other religious doctrines

What season would that be?

First day of winter? How long have the decorations been up?

Will they come down at the end of winter?

When will the spring season decorations go up?

18 posted on 12/23/2009 9:23:48 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Question authority!Who is the University of East Anglia to drive the 'Global Climate Change' agenda?)
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To: mockingbyrd

Mr. Sutley has been traumatized by the sight of a star. Poor Mr. Sutley requires hospitalization (whether he wants it or not). It must be a living hell to be a Mr. Sutley. How can he make it through the day? So sensitive, offended at every turn. Mr. Sutley how can you make it through something like Thursday? Do you know that Thursday is named after a pagan god? We are surrounded by religious symbolism. You must be tearing your hair out. I will pray for you.


19 posted on 12/23/2009 9:24:23 AM PST by Vehmgericht
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To: markomalley

See also:

California Official Orders Removal of Christmas Angel After Complaint

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2413797/posts

(NOT duplicate, another article on the same topic from a different source)


20 posted on 12/23/2009 9:24:26 AM PST by SmartInsight (Dems in power are a clear and present danger to our freedom and the survival of our nation.)
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To: doodad
What a jerk. Goes around looking for things he decides are offensive. Why can’t private citizens display their own property in a public workplace?

Bingo, we have a winner !

I find HIM offensive and demand HE be removed ! And I'm an agnostic !!

21 posted on 12/23/2009 9:27:47 AM PST by jimt
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To: markomalley

I’d bet good money that Mr. Sutley lives an unhappy, miserable life, filled with an all-consuming hatred and jealousy. I’m not surprised that he lashes out at everything even remotely associated with Christianity. Hate will make you do that.

I truly hope he opens his heart to Jesus Christ before his time comes. I really do.


22 posted on 12/23/2009 9:28:24 AM PST by reagan_fanatic (Socialism is hip until somebody loses a paycheck)
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To: markomalley
Some Christians would see this as a good thing because Jeremiah 10:2-4 warns us not to cut and decorate trees! In the mean time, the pagans and their yule tree are being excluded by this idiot atheist because he sees it as Christian!

These are the fruits of subjective reality, brought to you by public education.

23 posted on 12/23/2009 9:28:54 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
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To: markomalley

What an assclown!


24 posted on 12/23/2009 9:28:54 AM PST by wazoo1031
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To: cameraeye

There are no “atheists” - just God haters.


25 posted on 12/23/2009 9:29:13 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: markomalley

Why do they listen? Ignore this schmuck for a few days and it’s over. If he sues and wins a judgment, let him sue the county to collect. Enough already.


26 posted on 12/23/2009 9:29:43 AM PST by montag813
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To: markomalley
Sutley is chairman of the county's central committee for the Peace and Freedom Party

"The Peace and Freedom Party is an open, multi-tendency, movement-oriented socialist party. We are united in our common commitment to socialism, democracy, feminism and unionism and our common opposition to capitalism, imperialism, racism, sexism and elitism."

http://www.peaceandfreedom.org/home/

27 posted on 12/23/2009 9:30:36 AM PST by hellbender
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To: markomalley

Christianity is a cult , yaknow.

Boy, is he in for a shocker.


28 posted on 12/23/2009 9:31:37 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. May yur bandwidth exceed your girth)
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To: markomalley

I wonder when he is going to sue God for putting stars in the sky? Or does he just stare at the ground to keep from seeing the heavenly stars?


29 posted on 12/23/2009 9:35:48 AM PST by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: markomalley

I wish someone would stick star up his behind.


30 posted on 12/23/2009 9:36:45 AM PST by Ol' Sparky (Liberal Republicans are the greater of two evils)
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To: markomalley

Hey, Irv, that’s not a star, it’s a light bulb.


31 posted on 12/23/2009 9:39:01 AM PST by savedbygrace (You are only leading if someone follows. Otherwise, you just wandered off... [Smokin' Joe])
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To: markomalley

people really suck sometimes..


32 posted on 12/23/2009 9:40:00 AM PST by cardinal4 (Dont Tread on Me)
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To: markomalley
Mr. Sutley, 65

And still needing to grow up.

33 posted on 12/23/2009 9:44:19 AM PST by Oratam
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To: markomalley

If all the religious symbolism is removed, it is no longer “Christmas” that’s being celebrated. I wish these atheists would put their money where their mouths are and work on Christmas day.


34 posted on 12/23/2009 9:45:59 AM PST by mrsmel
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To: markomalley

What would happen if these rulings were ignored?


35 posted on 12/23/2009 9:47:16 AM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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Huh. Some interesting stuff comes up if you search that name.


36 posted on 12/23/2009 9:49:11 AM PST by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream.)
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To: markomalley

Keep the angle on the tree.


37 posted on 12/23/2009 9:51:28 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: markomalley

Well, I’m offended by its removal!!! Maybe it’s time those of us, the majority, start suing over the REMOVAL of things like this!


38 posted on 12/23/2009 9:54:43 AM PST by Nea Wood (Silly liberal . . . paychecks are for workers!)
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To: markomalley

And Obama hangs a Mao ornament from his Christmas tree in full view of everyone.


39 posted on 12/23/2009 10:05:00 AM PST by TheThinker
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"Irv Sutley ... is a lifelong atheist and is also chairman of the Sonoma County’s Peace and Freedom Party."

Maybe those skin lesions are cancerous.

40 posted on 12/23/2009 10:15:17 AM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: mazda77

“But this a$$wipe has no problem with the 50 stars on the flag he fought for?”

It was the way it was written. It fooled several so far. The guy isn’t a veteran.
The guy is a veteran of keeping religious symbols off public property. That is what he has “fought” for. If the guy was an actual prior member of the service you can be sure it was peace time, the guy never left the states, and most probably didn’t function well either ending up in the brig or quickly leaving the service.

Plus, the guy is a “former” warehouse worker. In other words he is unemployed.

So, a completely unsavory blowhard spends his time hating Christianity and living off the government tit. Sounds like a future legislator for California. He should run for office.


41 posted on 12/23/2009 10:15:57 AM PST by IrishCatholic (No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
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To: markomalley

There are times when violence is uncalled for. However, there are times when violence is appropriate. The distinction is when people who are offensive and oppressive seek to dominate and control others, and seek to hide behind and use the grace given to others who are not offensive and oppressive.

This is why, for example, when neo-Nazis wanted to march through Skokie, Illinois, a heavily Jewish area, with the sole purpose of inflicting emotional distress on people, despite what the ACLU said, it is *not* free speech. In doing so, they were not petitioning the government. They were seeking to intimidate and harm people in their own homes.

A star or an angel on a Christmas tree is a passive display, even more passive than music. No one is “oppressed” by such a display, forced to watch it with more than a passing glance. And no reasonable person could assume that it is a statement of policy.

But for an individual to demand its removal, turns a voluntary act of emplacement, into an involuntary act of removal. This is an effort to control and dominate, an offensive act, and an un-American act. As such it should be treated the same as if someone knocked on the door of a black citizen, then told them to move out because the knocker is “offended” by blacks.

And in this case, violence is very called for, either for the atheist or the racist. And a lack of violence will encourage them to commit future acts of offense and oppression.


42 posted on 12/23/2009 10:28:59 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: P-Marlowe

is also chairman of the Sonoma County’s Peace and Freedom Party.””

Sure does not say much for that particular political party, does it??


43 posted on 12/23/2009 10:30:16 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: markomalley

Hope there are no American flags in the Sonoma County government offices. Each of those would have 50 of the offending stars.


44 posted on 12/23/2009 10:35:33 AM PST by artichokegrower
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To: markomalley

That guy is just looking for ways to be offended. And I should remind all that to be offended is an overt choice. This guy chooses to find that which brings others joy to be offensive.


45 posted on 12/23/2009 10:38:56 AM PST by CaspersGh0sts
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To: markomalley

Inclusive not exclusive. These morons need a beat down.


46 posted on 12/23/2009 10:44:37 AM PST by Dead Corpse (III)
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To: markomalley

Atheists need to stop forcing Their Religion down our throats!


47 posted on 12/23/2009 10:50:48 AM PST by divine_moment_of_facts
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To: Carry_Okie

Well, those Christians are confused b/c Jeremiah 10 is talking about the heathen and their idol worship of trees and things made of gold and silver, etc. The main theme there and admonitions was against idolatry....not trees or gold or silver...Many of those christians that feel that way about Christmas Trees have televisions, which serve as much more of an idol than any tree...


48 posted on 12/23/2009 11:07:08 AM PST by DrewsMum (If a tax on tanning beds is not racist, then neither is a tax on Jerry Curl.....)
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Well, those Christians are confused b/c Jeremiah 10 is talking about the heathen and their idol worship of trees and things made of gold and silver, etc. The main theme there and admonitions was against idolatry....not trees or gold or silver..

Yes, I know that, but Jeremiah is admonishing them from even having them there, whether or no. Do you despise his advice?

49 posted on 12/23/2009 11:09:25 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
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To: markomalley

I hope this idiot doesn’t look up in the sky at night if he is so offended by stars...... I suggest if he has a problem with those stars, then he needs to talk to God......oh, wait, nevermind....


50 posted on 12/23/2009 11:10:12 AM PST by DrewsMum (If a tax on tanning beds is not racist, then neither is a tax on Jerry Curl.....)
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