Posted on 01/05/2010 1:52:27 PM PST by autumnraine
On the air today, popular radio host Glenn Beck mocked "birthers" and claimed there is a concerted campaign to get those questioning Barack Obama's constitutional eligibility onto the airwaves – a strategy Beck said would actually benefit Obama.
"There's always games being played behind the scenes at a talk radio show," Beck said. "Rush has always called them seminar callers. But instead of being coy with the seminar callers or with you, I'm just going to expose the game that is going on. Today there is a concerted effort on all radio stations to get birthers on the air."
"I have to tell you, are you working for the Barack Obama administration?" Beck scoffed. "I mean, that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard."
The ongoing dialogue then spun off into ridicule as Beck caricatured those who question the sitting president's eligibility with straw-man arguments reminiscent of jibes made by Obama's apologists in other news outlets.
Beck defined birthers as people who believe Obama was born in Kenya or other foreign country, was raised as a Manchurian candidate and somehow brainwashed Hillary Clinton into not exposing his fraud. According to Beck's running joke, birthers believe someone – maybe Obama's KGB "control" – preemptively placed Obama's birth announcement in 1961 Hawaiian newspapers with a "roadmap" of getting an African man into office.
As for Obama producing a long-form birth certificate to actually prove his place of birth, Beck questioned, "Why do that when these people ['birthers'] are so discrediting themselves?"
Get the must-wear clothing item for 2010! "Where's the birth certificate" T-shirt!
The radio host further argued that by distracting the public from actionable issues, "birthers" have become "a dream come true" for Obama, an ideal situation akin to the fantasies of adolescent boys after Hollywood bombshells.
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I think secretly the birthers are liberals just trying to give conservatives a bad name.
Hoo-boy! Now that one will get you hammered big-time by the Obama Derangement Syndrome crowd here... :-)
Glen has a point. Consider, say ... just for arguement’s sake that the Long Form were produced today, and it was found to be a forgery - this is smoke. So what? This will not stop the financial crisis, the healthcare fiasco, the goverment ownership of our automitive and medical industries, our loss of jobs, the immigration problem, terrorism. With all do respect ... BFD.
The “fire” is the bank bailouts, the health insurance bill, the collusion of the media, the corruption in Congress, the financial collapse that is happening right in front of our eyes. The Communists that are actively working WITH Obama.
Obama could be a registered AKC Terrier for all anyone is concerned. So freakin’ what. This is smoke. Obama’s pedigree doesn’t matter - what matters is what is going on TODAY.
Having a Kenyan in the office won’t destroy our country; dismantling the Constitution will.
Priorities, people ... what is more important? Stopping the destruction of our rights, or fanning smoke on a birth certificate that may, or may not exist?
I can see the flames, and when the flames are put out - then, and only then, should we focus on the smoke.
We have a large number of Unconstitutional things happening with this administration.
Birth place and Health Care are but two. Which one is more important right now, January 2010?
I believe it is commonly a liberal tactic to denounce all who disagree as traitors, or cowards, or liars, or butt-kissers.
Ummmm.... do you really realize that you've just called the group here on Free Republic of the Obama Derangement Syndrome crowd -- all those names? Hoo-boy! you are certainly brave... :-)
NO! NO! Only the Birth Certificate matters!
Everything else will fall into place if only he will show his birth certificate!
You obviously care not one wit about the constitution.
(I better add /s)
Priorities, people ... what is more important? Stopping the destruction of our rights, or fanning smoke on a birth certificate that may, or may not exist?
Your post is certainly gratifying to see. It holds out hope for me that there are certainly still people on Free Republic who can still see the forest for the trees... LOL...
There may be hope for some of those who are still stuck in a time-warp -- in 2008....
Let the Brainwashing Begin
OMG! GB cut a deal w/his Lord & Masters & the powers that
be @ FOX
I will throw his books in my fireplace for smoke up the chimney
I wil never,never listen to him again,EVER
“Having Orly Taitz be the public face of the conservative movement ... “
I thought Rush Limbaugh was the “face of the conservative movement.” Taitz has made a lot of noise and gotten a lot of ink, but she is hardly the face or spokesperson for the conservative movement. By the ‘10 elections, no one will remember her name.
Nonetheless, I would like the SCOTUS to interpret the Founders’ meaning of ‘natural born citizen.’ I don’t believe it’s the same as ‘native born citizen,’ so a HI birth certificate would be irrelevant given his public admission of his father’s Kenyan citizenship. But we shall see.
Maybe when the birther movement manages to find a single shred of evidence after 2 years and countless man hours of searching for it, then maybe he will take it seriously.
As it currently stands, the movement is a joke and a disgrace.
Where on any birth certificate is there a field for a child's religion?
In your opinion, what is the constitutional method for removing him from office at this point? The Constitution explicitly provides only one way to remove a sitting president, impeachment by the House and trial and removal by the Senate. Given the composition of Congress, this just ain't gonna happen.
It is conceivable a massive electoral swing could result in a significant GOP majority in the House and potential impeachment, as only a simple majority is required. However, I don't think it is even mathematically possible for there to be a 2/3 GOP majority in the next Senate.
The only other apparent option would be a lawsuit going to the Supreme Court, which would then rule on the case.
I contend that giving the judicial system the extra- if not un-constitutional power to remove an elected president is perhaps as dangerous as allowing an ineligible official to serve out his term.
Do we really want the Supremes as the ultimate authority in every conceivable situation? We're moving in that direction, and a lawsuit of this type would accelerate that movement, IMO.
I've even seen some suggestions that the military should remove him as being unqualified. I think most Americans, even most birthers, can recognize this as a contender for the worst idea in American history.
Why can’t you grasp that REMOVING THE SOURCE OF THE FIRE would solve the problem?
It isn’t about nitpicking, it’s about a person who is not even eligible to hold the office destroying our nation and we have the KEY to remove him. But instead people want to throw birthers in with bigfoot hunters and UFO chasers.
That’s also incorrect for a variety of reasons. For starters, being a dual citizen wouldn’t disqualify you if you had native born American citizenship. The U.S. doesn’t punish dual citizenship.
Now, the reason why people hop onto Indonesia is that Indonesia does supposedly force you to renounce citizenship from other countries to have theirs.
Actually, that’s not what I said. I said it is a liberal tactic to assume bad faith as a given whenever someone disagrees.
I don’t believe these things are true of (many of) those who believe strongly in the whole birther thing. I just find some of their denunciations of those who hold a different opinion to be unworthy of someone claiming the proud name of “conservative.”
Lincoln, who I admire greatly, bent every effort to assume good motives on the part of his political opponents, during the greatest crisis in American history. I believe it is both honorable and in the long run politically more effective to do the same.
The essential fact is Obama’s In-your-face admission that he was “born a dual-citizen”, of England and the U.S. He is boldly saying, I'm not eligible by the old rules, the Constitution, but they are historical artifacts. I'm half black and you wouldn't dare discriminate against a black man, would you?
The definition of a natural born citizen, cited in a dozen cases, most clearly by Minuteman and third chief justice John Marshall in The Venus, 12, U.S. 253 “...born in the country of citizen parents”. This definition has never been altered, and was quoted by Patrick Leahy, Clair McGaskill, Hillary Clinton, et. al. in Senate Resolution 511, Apr 2008, as they tried to insure that their opposing candidate would be John McCain, who had his own natural born citizen problem, thus providing cover for Obama. Don't be fooled by Leahy's legalese disclaimer that natural born citizen has no definition in the Constitution. He knew this day might come, as did all senators, and Michael Chertoff, who made the same assertion about McCain "Because both of his parents were citizens ... he is a natural born citizen". According to Alexander Hamilton, Vattel is part of U.S. Common Law, fully part of our constitutional foundation. Marshall, Waite and Bingham all cite Vattel's Law of Nations.)
No society would or did guarantee allegiance, the qualifications for our "King" and commander of our military, the founding credentials of a nation to the child of a father who opposed our ideas - a non-citizen. That is called jus sanguinis. It has origins at least in Roman law, and was the rule for France at the time of our revolution. Vattel, who codified the ‘natural law’ preferred by our founders, was the most cited legal author between 1790 and 1820. We certainly didn't adopt the laws of England, the legal system we had just rejected. How could we? We are a nation of immigrants who must share the ideas of what freedom is. Our leaders needed fealty to our Constitution which was the doctrine designed to insure protection of those freedoms.
Birth records are a straw dog. Obama is constitutionally ineligible, and is counting on our not being disciplined enough, or smart enough, to enforce our fundamental law.
Being a dual citizen =/= being a natural born citizen, which is required by our constitution to be president.
You and I both think alike. I am guessing a “home for unwed mothers”, perhaps because whether Obaby would be put up for adoptin’ or kept was under “discussion” in the fambly.
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