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Sunshine, Vitamin D, and Death by Scientific Consensus
Pajamas Media ^ | Jan. 7 | Patrick Cox

Posted on 01/07/2010 1:38:35 PM PST by AJKauf

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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea

“Pasteurized, homogenized milk is not healthy.”

can’t be too damaging since I haven’t been sick in 64 years!

Last time I was sick was with the measles when i was 8.


101 posted on 01/08/2010 9:30:07 AM PST by dalereed
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
5,000 in a day is not going to hurt you.

I was taking 3000 a day and became Hypercalcemic, quit taking it and all is well, according to hematologist anyway. I actually wish I could take it, and according to my research, Vitamin D is almost never the cause....Oh well.

102 posted on 01/08/2010 11:49:55 AM PST by itsahoot (Each generation takes to excess, what the previous generation accepted in moderation.)
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To: itsahoot

itsahoot,
Interesting. Was it D3?

Have you had your serum vitamin D levels tested?

Best,
ampu


103 posted on 01/08/2010 1:35:07 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: itsahoot

itsahoot,
Interesting. Was it D3?

Have you had your serum vitamin D levels tested?

Best,
ampu

I’ll add this... http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/766373-overview

A good discussion of hypercalcemia - and if you read it, there are things that could cause it that may not be good still. It is possible the vitamin D triggered/revealed/worsened anther underlying cause... food for thought.


104 posted on 01/08/2010 1:38:43 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: allmendream; CholeraJoe

No, my internist made no such claim. However, unlike you, i am not singularly focused on that one fact from this story. I HAVE found, through personal experience, as have a number of people on these threads, that VitD supplements, taken in 2000 units per day doses, have salutary health benefits. I honestly don’t think that physicians are testing for VitD levels, and prescribing supplements to bring up those levels, because its a panacea that will eradicate disease. Your obsessing on that single sentence from the report tends to discredit your criticism of the underlying premise. CJ, my esteemed physician friend, your opinion on the benefits of VitD, taken in moderation?


105 posted on 01/08/2010 1:49:38 PM PST by xsmommy
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To: xsmommy; allmendream

Modest doses of Vitamin D3(up to 2000IU daily) in Caucasians can be helpful. High doses of either vitamin D or A can be very dangerous, even lethal. I have personally treated 2 cases each of hypervitaminosis A and D. One of the Vitamin A excesses died.

I don’t believe there is adequate peer-reviewed evidence to support universal Vitamin D supplementation. It’s clearly not a panacea.


106 posted on 01/08/2010 2:09:12 PM PST by CholeraJoe (The enema of my enemy is my friend!)
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To: allmendream

Still in love with ignorance and death I see!


107 posted on 01/08/2010 3:10:01 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Democracy, the vilest form of government, pits the greed of an angry mob vs. the rights of a man)
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To: allmendream

You are an incompetent “molecular biologist.”


108 posted on 01/08/2010 3:13:25 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Democracy, the vilest form of government, pits the greed of an angry mob vs. the rights of a man)
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To: allmendream

You are truly dangerous, and should be banned from posting.


109 posted on 01/08/2010 3:20:34 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Democracy, the vilest form of government, pits the greed of an angry mob vs. the rights of a man)
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To: Ditter

People that get high sun exposure do to their work have a much lower incidence of Melanoma than the general population, while those that work solely indoors have the highest incidence.


110 posted on 01/08/2010 3:41:18 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Democracy, the vilest form of government, pits the greed of an angry mob vs. the rights of a man)
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To: hennie pennie
"Do roofers and lifeguards in southern latitudes only die from old age, and not from the common major diseases?
IF so, then why hasn't this been known for decades?"

Until the late 19th century, the vast majority of people worked outdoors. Now that a larger percentage of people work indoors, people are dying of chronic diseases at a greater rate, While in earlier times accidental deaths were commonplace.

111 posted on 01/08/2010 3:46:28 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Democracy, the vilest form of government, pits the greed of an angry mob vs. the rights of a man)
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To: editor-surveyor
Still in love with your own ignorance and Geocentricism I see. Still unable to back up your position with anything other than personal attacks I see.

You are truly delusional, but please keep posting! It is nice to see the personification of ignorant blather represent the anti-science side.

112 posted on 01/08/2010 4:25:15 PM PST by allmendream (Wealth is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be RE-distributed?)
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To: xsmommy
How many cheap unsupportable lies does someone have to peddle you before you realize that they are not to be trusted?

That is like saying “ignore the fecal matter in that banana split... eat around it”.

Sorry, it doesn't work that way.

Saying vitamin D supplementation can reduce your risk of most major diseases by 50-80% makes the author the mayor of crazytown, or a prominent citizen of crazytown at the least (I think some posting here might be in line for the mayoral position).

113 posted on 01/08/2010 4:29:16 PM PST by allmendream (Wealth is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be RE-distributed?)
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To: dalereed

Some get lucky :)


114 posted on 01/08/2010 4:34:11 PM PST by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a tea party descendant - steeped in the Constitutional legacy handed down by the Founders)
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To: hennie pennie

That post gets a Vitamin A PLUS. ;’)


115 posted on 01/08/2010 7:14:19 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Happy New Year! Freedom is Priceless.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
It is possible the vitamin D triggered/revealed/worsened anther underlying cause... food for thought.

My thoughts exactly, My Doc's seem content to blame it on the D3, but who knows. Malignant Melanoma comes to mind also, which is probably what their main concern was.

Vitamin D, 25-OH-----Total-----494
Vitamin D, 25-OH-----D3-------44
Vitamin D, 25-OH-----D2--------55
Hemoglobin A1C 5.0

116 posted on 01/09/2010 10:02:48 AM PST by itsahoot (Each generation takes to excess, what the previous generation accepted in moderation.)
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To: not2worry

Ha, ha, I take a lot of D now, and I’m still tired and crabby. ;-)


117 posted on 01/09/2010 12:36:16 PM PST by Pining_4_TX
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To: dalereed

Wow, do you own your own cow? :-)


118 posted on 01/09/2010 12:37:06 PM PST by Pining_4_TX
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To: allmendream

“And people who lived in tropical locations with lighter skin would have reduced rates of most major diseases by 50-80%. This is obviously not the case.”

Ah, that is what I always wondered about. If D is such a cure-all, then one would think that there would be significantly less cancer, etc. in the tropical climates. There is probably a strong case for the link between a lack of sunshine and MS.


119 posted on 01/09/2010 12:39:42 PM PST by Pining_4_TX
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To: editor-surveyor

Well, many years ago, most people did not live long enough to contract many chronic illnesses. In fact, the #1 risk factor for most diseases, including cancer, is aging! The majority of cancers occur in people over age 65.

Let’s face it. We are all going to die of something.


120 posted on 01/09/2010 12:49:21 PM PST by Pining_4_TX
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