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Mitt Romney is no different than Harry Reid
vanity | Jan 9, 2010 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 01/09/2010 1:35:38 PM PST by Jim Robinson

Mitt Romney is no different than Harry Reid.

They both say they're against abortion but that it is a woman's constitutional right to choose (and that's settled law so the debate is over).

Both say it would be wrong to use government for moral issues but see no problem whatsoever in using government to force immoral issues on a moral people.

Both see government as a force to use FOR the good of the people, for example, forcing the people to purchase government approved insurance plans for their own good and if they refuse, penalize or jail them.

Both believe that government knows what's best for the peons.

Both believe that government should tax those who have for the benefit of those who don't.

Neither recognizes the concept that our nation was founded on the "self-evident truth" that our unalienable rights are a gift from God our Creator, not from man or government and that we should all be treated equally under the law.

Neither see the constitution as a limit on government power.

Neither has any respect whatsoever for our God-Given, unalienable rights or a history or demonstrable interest in defending the Constitution of the United States of America against all enemies foreign and domestic so help me God (including, obviously, themselves).

Either would RULE over us with an iron fist.

But of course, the same is true of Obama, Pelosi, Clinton and other assorted and misc Demoncrats and RINOs.

JMHO, of course.


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1 posted on 01/09/2010 1:35:40 PM PST by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson

Well, Romney has more teeth and more hair...


2 posted on 01/09/2010 1:36:36 PM PST by livius
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To: livius

Harry Roid at least stands for something. Not a good something but it is something.


3 posted on 01/09/2010 1:39:48 PM PST by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: Jim Robinson

He was on Gretta yesterday trying to “act” like a conservative. It made me laugh out loud.


4 posted on 01/09/2010 1:40:06 PM PST by fish hawk (It's sad that science gathers knowledge faster than society gathers wisdom. Isaac Asimov)
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To: Jim Robinson

Spot on.


5 posted on 01/09/2010 1:40:37 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny (ALSO SPRACH ZEROTHUSTRA)
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To: livius
Comparison...


6 posted on 01/09/2010 1:40:43 PM PST by Dallas59 (No To O -Time is going by really really really really slow.)
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To: Jim Robinson

They are both statists except I haven’t heard Romney being racist toward Obama.

Statists are statists no matter the party.


7 posted on 01/09/2010 1:40:51 PM PST by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards,com)
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To: Jim Robinson
Both say it would be wrong to use government for moral issues but see no problem whatsoever in using government to force immoral issues on a moral people.

AMEN. Public funded abortion, forced acceptance in schools and workplaces and neighborhoods of open homosexuality, forced "charity" in the name of publicly funded welfare programs that encourage sloth and envy -- a few examples of how these folks are using the government to force immoral things on a moral people.

8 posted on 01/09/2010 1:42:04 PM PST by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent.)
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To: Dallas59

Actually, the teeth are about the same, but the hair is darker.

They both look like androids.


9 posted on 01/09/2010 1:42:57 PM PST by livius
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To: Jim Robinson

Yeah, but Jim, he’s a good family man! *ducking*


10 posted on 01/09/2010 1:43:25 PM PST by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent.)
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To: Jim Robinson

I’m not so sure. ModerateRepublicans are naive. Democrats are calculating. Moderate Republicans who think we can “compromise” -like Romney, Graham or McCain-are just plain dumb. Democrats are just evil-deceitfully pushing agendas while deliberately perpetrating a lie. Both are bad but for different reasons.


11 posted on 01/09/2010 1:48:59 PM PST by HarleyD
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To: Jim Robinson
You said it Jim!!! You and I have both endorsed Sarah Palin. It`s Sarah or bust!!!
12 posted on 01/09/2010 1:49:13 PM PST by Friendofgeorge ( SARAH PALIN or BUST.)
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To: Jim Robinson

13 posted on 01/09/2010 1:50:09 PM PST by nhwingut (Palin/Bachmann '12)
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To: Jim Robinson

Amen.


14 posted on 01/09/2010 2:03:17 PM PST by Rocky (Obama's ego: The "I's" have it.)
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To: Jim Robinson
Jim; I campaigned for Mitt and helped him get the nomination for Gov, as did many Mass FReepers at the time, he was the best of a couple of very bad choices.

He turned out as bad as his dad, this man is not a Republican.

15 posted on 01/09/2010 2:06:37 PM PST by Little Bill (Carol Che-Porter is a MOONBAT.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Very well put Jim.

Perhaps an alternate headline could be
The Case Against Liberals?


16 posted on 01/09/2010 2:08:09 PM PST by ASOC (In case of attack, tune to 640 kilocycles or 1240 kilocycles on your AM dial.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Thanx again for the warning. Mr Robinson.


17 posted on 01/09/2010 2:09:53 PM PST by ColdOne (ColdOne(Has he gone to church yet?))
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To: GeronL

Perhaps if more and more Americans realize the nature of the beast more will understand how the modern American Political Party’s have corrupted what once was intended in this Republic!


18 posted on 01/09/2010 2:27:45 PM PST by ImpBill ("America ... where are you now?" signed, a little "r" republican!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Very well stated. This man is not a conservative, he’s a chameleon.


19 posted on 01/09/2010 2:35:39 PM PST by BearArms (Arm yourself because no one else here will save you)
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To: Jim Robinson

BTTT!


20 posted on 01/09/2010 2:38:38 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Jim Robinson

If conservatives and Republicans follow through on and capitalize on the Tea Party movement and the growing opposition to Obama and the Dims, then, substantial Republican wins in the House and Senate will go far toward determining who the next Republican nominee will be. The candidates in the Republican primaries will have to align fairly closely with the issues of the voters and the Republican winners in the 2010 elections.

I think the next Republican nominee will be the one who will best align with the issues that will coalesce over the next year. The entire nation does not share the negative view of Romney. I think his Mormonism will still be the biggest question for many evangelicals, and he’ll have to dance around the health care issue, whatever the outcome of the final votes. Unless some newer face can really make a splash soon, I think it will be Palin or Romney. And both will be wise to align themselves with the most important issues that have risen to the top over the next year or so.

If the strength of the current movement away from Obama is as strong as it seems, then the movement will form a candidate or two more than any candidates will persuade the voters.


21 posted on 01/09/2010 2:52:47 PM PST by Will88
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To: Jim Robinson

Both Mr. Romney and Mr. Reid are also bad on Second Amendment issues.


22 posted on 01/09/2010 2:59:53 PM PST by snowsislander
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To: Will88
Romney is worse than Reid.
Romney covered up the BIG DIG.

Romney successfully INSTALLED like a dictator BOTH
RomneyCARE=ObamaCARE and gay marriage (by usurping the
Mass Constitution).

Neither is innocent, but Romney has been more effective against the GOP and Americans.

AND Romney attacked Gov Palin and her children secretly,
unlike Reid who did it publicly.

Romney is a lower than a worm and snakes (apologies to both).


23 posted on 01/09/2010 3:00:54 PM PST by Diogenesis ("Those who go below the surface do so at their peril" - Oscar Wilde)
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To: Jim Robinson

24 posted on 01/09/2010 3:05:55 PM PST by onyx
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To: fish hawk
He was on Gretta yesterday trying to “act” like a conservative. It made me laugh out loud.

He PATHETICALLY attempted to justify MA healthcare and pathetically tried to articulate its differences from nationalized obamacare, completely missing the point, that GOVERNMENT HEALTHCARE IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL.

I muted the remainder of the interview...lol.

25 posted on 01/09/2010 3:13:38 PM PST by onyx
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To: Jim Robinson

I couldn’t find one thing to disagree with.


26 posted on 01/09/2010 3:17:16 PM PST by azishot
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To: onyx

What a great picture!


27 posted on 01/09/2010 3:18:11 PM PST by azishot
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To: azishot

Yes! It’s my favorite. Please save it and use it often!!!


28 posted on 01/09/2010 3:20:33 PM PST by onyx
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To: Diogenesis

Those are your views, but it will be the views of voters all across the nation that determine the next Republican nominee. And all those sins committed in Massachusetts will never be known to most voters, and many voters will not consider them to be as important as others do.

I notice Pawlenty is out there sounding conservative and “clarifying” some of his past views and positions on the issues. Too much division can serve up that guy, just as 2008 served up Juan McCain. Blue states can pick the Republican nominee, and I think they’d prefer Pawlenty to Palin or Romney.

We need a candidate who can align him or herself with the issues the current movement will consider most important. And, one heck of a lot about the direction of conservatism and the Republican party will be determined in November. Then a presidential nominee must join in and lead it further along in 2011 and beyond.

I still like Palin or Romney as having the best chances of retiring Obama after one term.


29 posted on 01/09/2010 3:26:45 PM PST by Will88
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To: Jim Robinson

Well I am no Romney fan but there is the matter of degree so I don’t accept broad brush statements like that. Sorry.


30 posted on 01/09/2010 3:27:47 PM PST by plain talk
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To: Jim Robinson

“Towards thee I roll, thou all-destroying but unconquering whale; to the last I grapple with thee; from hell’s heart I stab at thee; for hate’s sake I spit my last breath at thee. Sink all coffins and all hearses to one common pool! and since neither can be mine, let me then tow to pieces, while still chasing thee, though tied to thee, thou damned whale! Thus, I give up the spear!”
- Moby Dick, Herman Melville


31 posted on 01/09/2010 3:31:30 PM PST by Reaganesque ("And thou shalt do it with all humility, trusting in me, reviling not against revilers.")
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To: Will88
Those are not my "views". They are facts.

Your Master, Mitt Romney, threw Election2008 to Obama.
That is working out for you, right?

The McCain/Palin ticket was up ++8 to 10 pts. in some polls, days prior to the election.
So rather than helping the GOP, poor loser “I am Myth” Romney and
TeamROMNEY decided …… to attack Gov. Palin (and her defenseless children) to throw Election2008.

"Frum was indeed a critic of Palin, calling her nomination a "huge mistake" during an October 13 (2008, weeks before the election) Early Show appearance."


David Frum: "Two of our most plausible candidates for president in 2012 are leading Mormons: Mitt Romney and Utah governor Jon Huntsman."


David Frum: "I have a lot of regard for Mitt Romney as a man and politician… I will support him without qualm."


Late in October, The American Spectator's The Prowler revealed:
"Former Mitt Romney presidential campaign staffers…
have been involved in spreading anti-Palin spin to reporters, seeking to diminish her standing after the election.
'Sarah Palin is a lightweight, she won't be the first, not even the third, person people will think of when it comes to 2012,'
says one former Romney aide…
'The only serious candidate ready to challenge to lead the Republican Party is Mitt Romney.
"Some former Romney aides were behind the recent leaks to media, including CNN, that Governor Sarah Palin was a 'diva' and was going off message intentionally."


The Palmetto Scoop reported: "One of the first stories to hit the national airwaves was
the claim of a major internal strife between close McCain aides and the folks handling his running mate Sarah Palin."
"I’m told by very good sources that this was indeed the case and that a rift had developed, but it was between Palin’s people and the staffers brought on from the failed presidential campaign of former Gov. Mitt Romney, not McCain aides."
"The sources said nearly 80 percent of Romney’s former staff was absorbed by McCain and these individuals were responsible for what amounts to a premeditated, last-minute sabotage of Palin."
… aides loyal to Romney inside the McCain campaign, said The Scoop, reportedly saw
that Palin would be a serious contender for the Republican nomination in 2012 or 2016, which made her a threat to another presidential quest by Romney.


Erick Erickson, who organized Operation Leper, said:
"These staffers are now out trying to finish her off ….hoping it would ingratiate themselves with Mitt Romney."


"Who's the Palin Leaker from the McCain Campaign?
National Review Online The publication of a Vanity Fair profile of Sarah Palin
appears to have opened old wounds in the McCain campaign.
... the source of the “Diva” leak was Nicolle Wallace’s husband."


Who benefits most from Sanford meltdown? Californian (that's right) Mitt Romney


"Peeking Out From the McCain Wreckage: Mitt Romney"

"Someone's got to say it: IS MITT ROMNEY RESPONSIBLE FOR OBAMA'S VICTORY?"

"Vanity: Team Romney Sabotaged Palin and Continuing to Do So?"

"Romney Supporters Trashing Palin"

"Romney advisors sniping at Palin?"



32 posted on 01/09/2010 3:33:15 PM PST by Diogenesis ("Those who go below the surface do so at their peril" - Oscar Wilde)
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To: Will88
Those are not my "views". They are facts.

Romney was a piss-poor Governor. Romney got a "C" rating from CATO. And that was BEFORE
Romney's Socialized medicine and coverup of the BIGdig kicked in. So you RomneyBOTs try to "spin history".
Note also that Romney also betrayed President Bush as Governor
(predicting what TeamROMNEY would do later in Election2008 to Gov. Palin, and then the GOP - i.e. Spoiler Romney-backstabbing),
because Romney was also against the conservative tax cuts. Here are the facts from CATO.

"As U.S. real output grew 13 percent between 2002 and 2006, Massachusetts trailed at 9 percent.
* Manufacturing employment fell 7 percent nationwide those years, but sank 14 percent under Romney, placing Massachusetts 48th among the states.
* Between fall 2003 and autumn 2006, U.S. job growth averaged 5.4 percent, nearly three times Massachusetts' anemic 1.9 percent pace.
* While 8 million Americans over age 16 found work between 2002 and 2006, the number of employed Massachusetts residents actually declined by 8,500 during those years.
"Massachusetts was the only state to have failed to post any gain in its pool of employed residents," professors Sum and McLaughlin concluded.
In an April 2003 meeting with the Massachusetts congressional delegation in Washington, Romney failed to endorse President Bush's $726 billion tax-cut proposal."

[Cato Institute annual Fiscal Policy Report Card - America's Governors, 2004.]

33 posted on 01/09/2010 3:34:49 PM PST by Diogenesis ("Those who go below the surface do so at their peril" - Oscar Wilde)
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To: plain talk

I agree! As a former 45 yr resident of Nevada, I have dealt personally with Harry Reid. Step carefully when painting with a broad brush. People may disagree with Mitt’s politicals or his religion but there is NO comparison with the snake and dirty antics that Harry Reid has done over the years, long before he became majority leader. No comparison. It would be more productive to concentrate on who can stop the re-election of Obama. A reminder to many critics that Ronald Reagan had a change of heart on issues during his career. I doubt if he could pass the litmus test that so many here demand. Reagan understood the art of political compromise. I am not a Mitt follower, just want conservatives and/or Republicans to pull together and stop Obama from having a second term!


34 posted on 01/09/2010 3:50:22 PM PST by Sammie42
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To: Sammie42

Bravo and a standing ovation. Agree with every thing you wrote.


35 posted on 01/09/2010 4:02:02 PM PST by Irish Eyes
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To: Dallas59

That’s the first time (in several decades) that I’ve seen Sourpuss Harry Weed smiling.


36 posted on 01/09/2010 4:05:30 PM PST by freespirited (People talk about "too big to fail." Our government is too big to succeed. --Chris Chocola)
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To: plain talk

Yeah, I know. Our baby killing abortionists are better than their baby killing abortionists and our big government forced healthcare plan is better than their big government forced healthcare plan. After all, we are Republicans.


37 posted on 01/09/2010 4:26:14 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Join the TEA Party Rebellion!! May God and TEA save the Republic!!)
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To: plain talk; Jim Robinson
Well I am no Romney fan but there is the matter of degree so I don’t accept broad brush statements like that.

What do you mean by "matter of degree"?

Do you mean that Myth has actually succeeded in imposing socialized medicine, while Reid hasn't?

38 posted on 01/09/2010 4:31:00 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Diogenesis

I’m not spinning anything. I mostly ignore what Romney did in ultra-lib Massachusetts and decide how I think he would govern as president. There is always some amount to ignore when any candidate moves from state to national campaigns.

And I’ll have to ignore Sarah’s recent statements of how much she admires McCain, and how she hopes he wins reelection. So, does she plan to campaign for him? She said she’d campaign for those who most share her values. So, what if JD Hayworth challenges McCain, as every half-conservative person hopes he will? Will Sarah still support McCain? Will she go to Arizona and campaign for Juan against JD? Who’s the real conservative, Juan or JD? And, I’m sure the MSM will use this to damage Sarah any way they can, but will she pull back and avoid a potentially very demoralizing move on her part?

If I could have it exactly as I’d like, Sarah would do all the right things and win he nomination and the presidency in 2012. But she hasn’t even declared, and there is no guarantee that she will for 2012.

There are no pure as the driven snow politicians. If Sarah doesn’t make it this time, I’ll be pulling for Mitt because of how I believe he’d govern as president, not because of anything he did or didn’t do in Massachusetts. And a Republican Congress would determine a lot.

And, the importance or lack thereof of what Romney did or didn’t do as Governor of Massacusetts are definitely your views, and not facts.

And, everyone knows who you are against. Who are you for? What if Sarah doesn’t decide to run in 2012?


39 posted on 01/09/2010 4:35:27 PM PST by Will88
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To: Dallas59; Diogenesis; SevenofNine

40 posted on 01/09/2010 4:49:22 PM PST by monkapotamus
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To: monkapotamus

HEY Monk did you hear Harry Reid call Obama Negro what century he live in


41 posted on 01/09/2010 4:50:57 PM PST by SevenofNine ("We are Freepers, all your media belong to us, resistence is futile")
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To: monkapotamus

HEY Monk did you hear Harry Reid call Obama Negro what century he live in


42 posted on 01/09/2010 4:51:06 PM PST by SevenofNine ("We are Freepers, all your media belong to us, resistence is futile")
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To: SevenofNine

How could anybody consider voting for romney?

He was elected by the same people that elected teddy and G.I. John.

Is there a need for any discussion about him after pointing out that fact?


43 posted on 01/09/2010 5:11:13 PM PST by shelterguy
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To: Jim Robinson

I will give it to Romney that I’ve seen no indication he is a racist, something that can’t be said for Reid.. other than that......


44 posted on 01/09/2010 5:13:31 PM PST by mnehring
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To: shelterguy

If I have pick between Mitt or Sarah Palin I think I take Alaskan Wildcat


45 posted on 01/09/2010 5:16:44 PM PST by SevenofNine ("We are Freepers, all your media belong to us, resistence is futile")
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To: shelterguy

If I have pick between Mitt or Sarah Palin I think I take Alaskan Wildcat


46 posted on 01/09/2010 5:16:57 PM PST by SevenofNine ("We are Freepers, all your media belong to us, resistence is futile")
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To: monkapotamus
Mitt and Harry’s love child! Eeewwwwww!
47 posted on 01/09/2010 5:20:32 PM PST by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......?)
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To: Jim Robinson

Kind of like many of the people here.

Claim to be “Christian” but their words and actions don’t match up with Christ’s teachings.


48 posted on 01/09/2010 5:28:20 PM PST by SwedeBoy2
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To: Will88

Well stated.


49 posted on 01/09/2010 5:36:49 PM PST by seoul62
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To: Jim Robinson

I have more respect for Reid. He never pretended to be one of us.


50 posted on 01/10/2010 2:56:47 AM PST by CowboyJay (RiNO - It's 'what's for dinner'...)
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