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Major magnitude 7.3 quake hits Haiti - USGS (Breaking!)
Reuters UK ^ | 01/12/2010 | n/a

Posted on 01/12/2010 2:22:15 PM PST by Pyro7480

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To: Petronski

That’s actually from an earthquake in China in 2008. Check out the red flag. The picture was in a news article from early 2009: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/4434400/Chinese-earthquake-may-have-been-man-made-say-scientists.html


261 posted on 01/12/2010 9:03:39 PM PST by DrGunsforHands
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To: DrGunsforHands; oldleft

My apologies to oldleft for what was misrepresented to me as a photo from Haiti.


262 posted on 01/12/2010 9:06:35 PM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: Zathras


Very strange.
I didn’t think Haiti was on a fault zone.

While all I know about earthquakes comes from TV or radio...
(and experienced an approx. 4.5 earthquake at UCLA)...

I have heard of at least one major earthquake event in Port Royal
in Jamaica.

Sorry I can’t give you citation, but one of the documentary series
on The History Channel included an earthquake the sunk a fair bit
of Port Royal, Jamaica during the days of the English privateers.
Listening to the documentary it was like an early day version of
the 1906 earthquake (and ensuing fire) of San Fransisco.

As in:
“Deprived City Enjoying Fruits of Empire Crumbles From G-d’s Wrath”.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingston,_Jamaica
(Scroll down to “History” subhead)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1692_Jamaica_earthquake


263 posted on 01/12/2010 9:10:49 PM PST by VOA
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To: zlala; All

Effects of an earthquake under shallow water. The great Christmas tsunami was so huge because the fault dropped a considerable distance. I think they said 60 feet, along a front dozens of miles long. A lot of water was displaced. As deep water waves move into shallow water, the top water moves faster than the bottom water and causes very high waves to build up.


264 posted on 01/12/2010 9:24:37 PM PST by gleeaikin
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To: freedumb2003; Pyro7480; All

The ring of fire does go around the pacific. The Caribbean has The Caribbean Plate. There are around 10 major or minor plates world wide.


265 posted on 01/12/2010 9:29:22 PM PST by gleeaikin
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To: Pyro7480
One person on the ground estimated, and I quote: “hundreds of thousands of casualties/dead.”

Shallow powerful quake, multiple strong aftershocks, soft ground, populated city, shabby construction, and numerous negative preexisting conditions will all lend themselves to a calamity of Biblical proportions (my words.)

266 posted on 01/12/2010 9:35:47 PM PST by freepersup (HELP find the "sharp dressed man" call 1 800 FBI MUMM)
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To: winoneforthegipper; steveo; All

I clicked your link and pulled up the trace for Old Faithful. Quite impressive:

http://www.quake.utah.edu/helicorder/yft_webi_1d.htm


267 posted on 01/12/2010 9:50:41 PM PST by gleeaikin
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To: Pyro7480

Haiti and the Dominican Republic share the same island. Why is the press only reporting Haiti????


268 posted on 01/12/2010 9:54:14 PM PST by RushCrush (Disenfrenchfried since November 2008)
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To: CaliforniaCon

My wife and I did Labadee with Royal Carribean. Nice enough, I suppose, but it was pointed out that Labadee was essentially privately owned, and definitely NOT the real Haiti.

Some folks who did the shopping thing said the same thing about the merchants—pushy and intimidating.


269 posted on 01/12/2010 9:57:54 PM PST by Future Snake Eater ("Get out of the boat and walk on the water with us!”--Sen. Joe Biden)
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To: Petronski

What was racist about it? He spoke the cold, hard truth. No points for sensitivity during a crisis, sure, but everything he said is still true.


270 posted on 01/12/2010 10:03:23 PM PST by Future Snake Eater ("Get out of the boat and walk on the water with us!”--Sen. Joe Biden)
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To: Future Snake Eater; cyborg

Climb out on his raft with him and blow away.

If you think this situation is a time for “misplaced sympathies” because someone else in Haiti killed white Frenchmen two hundred years ago, then I pity you.

For Christ’s sake, think before you post.


271 posted on 01/12/2010 10:06:12 PM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: RushCrush

The epicenter was only about 6 miles from Port-ou-Prince. It sounds like the cities of the Dominican are further away and not as impacted. I saw one youtube of Dom. Rep. with a fire truck next to a fancy high rise and folks milling about. Didn’t see any damage.

What I did see was the stark contrast. In the Dom. Rep. lots of shining glass and metal tall buildings, well-dressed folks, orderly and wide streets. Quite the contrast to Haiti. Oh - the nicer buildings probably withstood the quake(s) better as well. (But mainly the distance).


272 posted on 01/12/2010 10:06:13 PM PST by 21twelve
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To: Bon mots; All

The Haitian slaves were treated horribly by the French. Unfortunately, any civilization possessed by captured slaves was systematically eradicated. Also most slaves were captured in rural undeveloped areas, not from the major old cities of Africa. My brother traveled across Africa 35 years ago and said it was amazing how there would be areas well developed and civilized, and then areas very primative.

The Trujillo brothers dictatorship in the Dominican Republic had strict laws about cutting down trees. When they were gone there was some deforestation. Glad to see that it was stopped again.


273 posted on 01/12/2010 10:07:50 PM PST by gleeaikin
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To: Future Snake Eater; Petronski

There is a time and place for everything. I strongly suspect that most people making negative comments probably don’t know any Haitians, have Haitian friends and/or family,etc. I’m not focusing on politics, just focusing on suffering humanity like the Church.


274 posted on 01/12/2010 10:09:27 PM PST by cyborg (I love the elderly.)
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To: SunkenCiv; All

You are thinking of the volcanic eruption of Pelee on the Island of Martinique in 1902. A prisoner did survive because he was in a heavy stone cell facing away from the pyroclastic flow. Even so, he was badly burned through the small window in the door. Eventually was taken up by Barnam and Bailey circus as one of their “freak show” exhibits.


275 posted on 01/12/2010 10:43:28 PM PST by gleeaikin
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To: Petronski

What’s improper about stating “actions have consequences”? No one’s saying the people living there today did it, or even would do it (although there is strong circumstancial evidence that says they would). It happened. That’s no more racist than saying the siege of the Alamo happened. It was an historical event.

The mass murder of the French may or may not have led to the ultimate downfall of the country into its state as it is today, but I’m willing to wager that it didn’t help.

Then there’s the religious aspect. That country is very, very Satanic. Sure, there are lots of Christians, and a LOT of missions trips there by many churches all over the world, but it’s still a minority compared to devil-worshipping voodoo. I’ve heard some pretty amazing stories come out of Haiti and places like it. God is not known there, and that fact isn’t helping them either.


276 posted on 01/12/2010 10:46:57 PM PST by Future Snake Eater ("Get out of the boat and walk on the water with us!”--Sen. Joe Biden)
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To: Petronski
Prayers up for the people of Haiti, FRiend.

Many had little enough in the realm of worldly goods, and of that they have lost all, if they were fortunate enough to escape with their lives and limbs intact.

Some people here just do not seem to understand that at a visceral level.

277 posted on 01/12/2010 11:05:49 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: cyborg

It’s not politics, it’s history. It happened. Potentially with no historical repurcussions as Haiti could have developed into an awful place regardless of European influences. Who knows?

I saw some crushing, horrible poverty in Iraq, and I met some very nice people there, but the country is a dungheap, and no amount of compassion will change that. It’s just a fact.


278 posted on 01/12/2010 11:20:36 PM PST by Future Snake Eater ("Get out of the boat and walk on the water with us!”--Sen. Joe Biden)
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To: Petronski
You blame the poor people of Haiti for the corruption of their government and the exploitation of their land, in racist terms.

My post did not once mention race.

In fact, I pointed out the admirable and astounding success of Singapore - a multiracial society made up of mostly ethnic Chinese and Indians with a smattering of Europeans. I am neither Indian nor Chinese but can only look with admiration at the wonderful society the good people of Singapore have created.

Haitians have had 200 years of Independence to build some kind of society and economy. They have consistently failed monumentally - No mean feat in the hemisphere of riches that surrounds them.

279 posted on 01/13/2010 12:46:21 AM PST by Bon mots
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To: SkyShot
So you have conceded and I am right.

The person who resorts to childish name calling and profanity only does so when they have no substantial intellectual response to a point someone has made. You really should learn how to disagree with someone without name-calling and throwing online emotional hissy-fits.

By resorting to the argumentum ad-hominem (name-calling), you have demonstrated to all that you are emotionally immature and childish - incapable of disagreeing with someone without the online equivalent of stamping your feet and shrieking.

Online forums can be upsetting to emotionally immmature folks and small children, so I should suggest a site more suitable for someone with your exiguous debating skills.

Try this.


While others have disagreed vehemently with my posts, they managed to do so like adults - without callow name calling thereby turning the forum into something more akin to Kindergarten recess - or DU.

I have not once mentioned the race of Haitians.
I have not once used a racist term nor profanity.
I never start childish namecalling rants.

280 posted on 01/13/2010 12:58:00 AM PST by Bon mots
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