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Why Is The Haiti Disaster Response So Screwed Up: Is Another Katrina Relief Effort In The Making?
The Market Oracle ^ | 1-17-2010 | Danny Schechter

Posted on 01/17/2010 8:09:50 PM PST by blam

Why Is The Haiti Disaster Response So Screwed Up: Is Another Katrina Relief Effort In The Making?

Politics / Social Issues
Jan 17, 2010 - 04:50 AM
By: Danny Schechter

Every disaster plan is built to some degree around the idea of triage—deciding who can and cannot be saved. The worst cases are often separated and allowed to perish so that others who are considered more survivable can be treated.

There is a tragic triage underway in Haiti thanks to screw-ups on the part of the US and western response, and in part because of the objectively tough conditions in Haiti that blocked access and made the delivery of food, water and services difficult. But the planners should have known that!

Look at the TV coverage. “Saving Haiti” is the title CNN has given to its coverage. It shows us all the planes landing, and donations coming in and celebrity response on one hand, and then the problems/failures to actually deliver aid on the other.

Much of the coverage focuses on the upbeat--people being saved, although despite the frame which is about a compassionate America's response, the Haitian reality is only barelygetting through. It's not pretty.

Everyone wants to believe in the best intentions of all involved but five days after the quake, with so few being helped, we have to ask, how did this get so badly done?

It’s like Obama’s plan to stop foreclopsures through modifying loans. Great idea, but only a handful of homeowners have benefited. There is often a yawning gap between the idea and its execution.

So what happened? The short answer: it is too little and, in many cases, much of it, too late. A natural disaster has been compounded by another well-intentioned man-made one

Why? One global report I saw—sorry forget the publication, explained:

“United Nations Secretary General Ban Ki-moon emphasized the importance of the first 72 hours following the 12 January disaster. But already much of that crucial time has been spent attempting to assess the situation.

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KEYWORDS: bho44; disaster; government; haiti; haitirelief; military; obama; palin; politics; relief; un
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1 posted on 01/17/2010 8:09:50 PM PST by blam
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To: blam

obama doesn’t like black people much.

You can tell by his response.


2 posted on 01/17/2010 8:11:16 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks. Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: blam

Why do we have to have a UN mandate to defend ourselves, but not to give away free stuff?


3 posted on 01/17/2010 8:12:54 PM PST by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: blam

Why does anybody think its screwed up? Because everyone is not saved and well fed yet?


4 posted on 01/17/2010 8:14:43 PM PST by spyone (ridiculum)
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To: blam
United Nations Secretary General Ban Ki-moon emphasized the importance of the first 72 hours

Yes, immediate response is necessary, but it's week 3 and 4 they needed to especially plan for as well.

That is when large numbers of people will start dying from infections, disease, lack of clean water and violence.

They needed to move round-the-clock from minute one in order to reopen the seaport and have a sea-supplied massive refugee camp operating by week three, from which large numbers of people in the city can be supplied with water, food, medicine, safety and sanitation.

I hope I'm wrong, but the failure of the Obama admin on this score may cost the lives of tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of Haitians in the coming weeks. Tragically, the result seems to be baked in the cake at this point.

5 posted on 01/17/2010 8:16:06 PM PST by SirJohnBarleycorn
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To: blam

Bush’s fault.

Just wait.


6 posted on 01/17/2010 8:17:19 PM PST by onedoug
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To: blam
"But the planners should have known that! "

Right. All of those so-called "planners" knew there was going to be an earthquake in Haiti. And why didn't the Haitian "planners" make plans for a possible earthquake? Is it the responsibility of the rest of the world to look after Haiti? What a whining, stupid article.

7 posted on 01/17/2010 8:17:23 PM PST by StormEye
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To: blam
Katrina happened in Louisiana, which is a state...Haiti is NOT a state.

The democrats think we are all responsible for every slacker in the world, so why wouldn't they think that America is totally responsible for Haiti's problems?

The rest of the world fabricates what they think we ought to be doing about everything, and when we don't do what THEY think, then we fit obamba's rule of "evil america".

I think we need a 5-year, reorganizational respite from the rest of the world...
8 posted on 01/17/2010 8:19:18 PM PST by FrankR (There will be no jobs until it is profitable for employers to hire people....PERIOD.)
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To: blam

Cuba is less than 100 miles from Haiti, yet I have not heard one word about Castro sending any doctors or medical supplies from the famous Cuban healthcare system. Castro can’t be bothered with helping those in need.


9 posted on 01/17/2010 8:21:03 PM PST by purplelobster
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To: blam

The Haiti response is not screwed up and the Katrina response was not screwed up. These disasters over large areas are incredibly difficult to address adequately within a few days, and there are all sorts of complicating factors such as the two or three days of dangerous inland weather after Katrina hit, and the clogged airport on Haiti and the poor road system that is also cluttered and damaged.

The problem is nitwit reporters and politicians who have no understanding of the situations, or are deliberately criticizing for political purposes, and most likely both.


10 posted on 01/17/2010 8:22:07 PM PST by Will88
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To: blam

Just like on 24, the CTU being headed up by one nobama’s czars show the brothas can’t work a deal more complicated than scoring a dime bag of crack.


11 posted on 01/17/2010 8:22:32 PM PST by dusttoyou (libs are all wee wee'd up and no place to go)
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To: spyone

Yep. This is how disasters play out. Nothing unusual here when society breaks down. This is why people should be prepared to bug out and/or survive on their own.


12 posted on 01/17/2010 8:22:49 PM PST by Kirkwood
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To: blam

>> Article: “Much of the coverage focuses on the upbeat”

It’s important the coverage is positive - but, it needs to be realistic as well.

Unfortunately, the coverage of Katrina was framed with the pretext that the catastrophe was Bush’s fault.


13 posted on 01/17/2010 8:24:32 PM PST by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: blam

Fools Rush In. Where others fear to tread. Haiti was a disaster area before the Earthquake. I was there recently. Anyone who has not experienced it has no idea what we are getting in to. 100 million would not even be a start. We are making a great mistake and the rest of the world is laughing at us. We better get the military out of there and just send aid. SOON!


14 posted on 01/17/2010 8:24:46 PM PST by screaminsunshine
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To: blam

Earthquake hit at 5:30pmish on Tuesday, right? When is it you think the U.S. hospital ship Comfort left it’s dock in Baltimore? Especially knowing the distance between MD and Haiti? Any guesses?

How about yesterday? Yeah...Saturday. Unreal.

http://wtop.com/index.php?nid=836&sid=1862996 It’s quite a stunner to learn that it takes 5 whole days to prepare a hospital ship for deployment.

http://www.wusa9.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=95915&provider=top Five days..which makes you wonder what the point is, after all. You know how many lives are lost in the first 5 days of a natural disaster?

While Obama is not to blame for that (sounds systemic to me), I’d sure figure out a better way to deploy within 24 hours. By the time they get to Haiti, it will be almost a week since the earthquake hit.

And Ret. General Honore is not a happy camper:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2010-01-15-general-criticizes-response_N.htm


15 posted on 01/17/2010 8:26:16 PM PST by Daisyjane69 (Michael Reagan: "Welcome back, Dad, even if you're wearing a dress and bearing children this time)
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To: Will88

You Got It!


16 posted on 01/17/2010 8:26:28 PM PST by screaminsunshine
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To: blam
This article from the Weekly Standard thinks the Obama administration has done well:

http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/shores-port-au-prince

17 posted on 01/17/2010 8:27:22 PM PST by Bronzy
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To: Will88

You are so right.


18 posted on 01/17/2010 8:30:05 PM PST by navysealdad (http://drdavehouseoffun.com/)
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To: dusttoyou

>> Just like on 24, the CTU being headed up by one nobama’s czar show the brothas ...

Nonsense.


19 posted on 01/17/2010 8:30:27 PM PST by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: blam

IIRC, the response to the Indian Ocean Tsunami was very fast and outstanding, and it is on the other side of the world.


20 posted on 01/17/2010 8:31:05 PM PST by AlexW (Now in the Philippines . Happy not to be back in the USA for now.)
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To: blam

Katrina was an order of magnitude greater disaster than anything that hit the U.S. since Andrew, and, Andrew struck mostly Florida where they had experience with hurricanes. But, Katrina hit where no one has experience in a quarter century, and, Brownie did a good job considering the f#ckups he had to content with in the city and state. Little is heard from Mississippi, but, I suspect it is thriving compared to NO where they are waiting for another hand out.

The Haiti earthquake was on a known fault, but, there had been nothing major in two hundred years. No one planed on it, it was so much easier to party. Haiti will be a bureaucratic screw up, in spite of the superb effort of the military. Sh!t happens in sh!t holes.


21 posted on 01/17/2010 8:32:12 PM PST by depressed in 06 (Tea parties today, Lexington tomorrow.)
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To: AlexW

And yet the UN was constantly whining that the US wasn’t doing enough.


22 posted on 01/17/2010 8:32:25 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: blam

its Bush’s fault...teasing...but of course the commoners won’t be helped as much as the politicians and gangs..its already too late for so many.


23 posted on 01/17/2010 8:37:17 PM PST by dalebert
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To: dusttoyou

you got it right


24 posted on 01/17/2010 8:39:32 PM PST by dalebert
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To: onedoug

Already is, didn’t you get that? Bush hired Gates and it’s Gates’s fault, so Bush is really to blame.


25 posted on 01/17/2010 8:40:54 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Will88

Well said.


26 posted on 01/17/2010 8:42:26 PM PST by Humble Servant (see y'all in the Gulag.)
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To: Kirkwood
"Yep. This is how disasters play out. Nothing unusual here when society breaks down. This is why people should be prepared to bug out and/or survive on their own."

Yup. Prepare now.

27 posted on 01/17/2010 8:44:54 PM PST by blam
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To: screaminsunshine

you are right but this is bill clintons baby so i imagine we are going to get in deeper and deeper


28 posted on 01/17/2010 8:46:03 PM PST by dalebert
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To: screaminsunshine
first of all.....Haiti is not our responsibilty......

it has been a free country for 200 yrs....

the fact that we take care of the world should always be considered to be our good will, nothing else....

29 posted on 01/17/2010 8:53:09 PM PST by cherry
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To: screaminsunshine
"We better get the military out of there and just send aid. SOON!"

Too Late!

Haiti Earthquake: 10,000 US Soldiers Due As Violence On The Streets Intensifies

30 posted on 01/17/2010 8:54:03 PM PST by blam
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To: blam

My son has been alerted to go to Haiti.

Frankly, if he has to deploy somewhere I’d rather he go to the ME.


31 posted on 01/17/2010 8:55:11 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (Mary Jo Kopechne would be a Scott Brown voter!!)
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To: onedoug

Maybe that’s why Obama asked GWB to get involved with the Haiti relief effort—so he can be blamed for any failures.


32 posted on 01/17/2010 9:00:16 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Will88
Also, it took reputable charities here in the U.S. several days to gather supplies, volunteer medical personnel, aircraft (and fuel to pay for the trip), etc.

Its not like Haiti is a couple of hours drive away. While I sympathize with the plight of the Haitians it takes time to do the above before going down there.

33 posted on 01/17/2010 9:00:43 PM PST by proudofthesouth (We are being governed by a Muzzie illegal alien and a corrupt Congress who no longer work for us.)
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To: Daisyjane69
the general is so right.....instead of political appointees the hard nosed military should have been in charge....

dropping water and food everywhere and even if not everybody got some, at least the people would not be in a panic that NO help was coming....

34 posted on 01/17/2010 9:01:46 PM PST by cherry
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To: StormEye

Plus the earthquake wrecked the place in a way that will take weeks to clear the harbour and the roads so that supplies can move through. This is like Normandy after the invasion.


35 posted on 01/17/2010 9:03:16 PM PST by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: StormEye

Plus the earthquake wrecked the place in a way that will take weeks to clear the harbour and the roads so that supplies can move through. This is like Normandy after the invasion.


36 posted on 01/17/2010 9:03:20 PM PST by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: proudofthesouth
Also, it took reputable charities here in the U.S. several days to gather supplies,

True, and also, when a dangerous hurricane comes ashore in the US Gulf states, people should remember that the weather inland will be dangerous high winds and tropical downpours over a large area. Too dangerous for vehicles to immediately take off as soon as a hurricane makes landfall. After Katria hit early on Monday, significant supplies and personnel started arriving that Thursday, and most had left their home areas Wednesday morning after loading supplies and waiting out the bad inland weather.

37 posted on 01/17/2010 9:08:12 PM PST by Will88
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To: cherry

Legal barriers kept the military from being used. Local, state and federal agencies had jurisdiction, and it took the administration a while to realize they
they would not get the job done. The government of Lousiana had virtually to be shoved aside, and the state of Mississippi, although competent, lacked the resources. The Mississipi Guard could not reach the coast because of felled trees etc. If the Guard has been as well trained as the Wehrmacht in 1940, they might have succeeded. But they weren’t. Furthermore, the army wasn’t positioned and had to be turned around.


38 posted on 01/17/2010 9:11:54 PM PST by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn; blam
If the port is totally long-term non-functional, (water/wharves blocked by collapsed cranes, etc.) surely the US has in place a plan for an amphibious assault on an unoccupied beach near PortAuPrince. Just charge ashore, offload bulldozers and road equipment first, and punch through to the nearest existing road. Then start rolling trucks loaded with supplies, field hospitals, expert troops, etc.

Of course, conditions might require a few Marines and Air Assault troops to lead the way and provide security, but if we treat this as a valuable military exercise -- then tell the UN and other bi+(#3rs to "shove it", we should be able to inject some serious help.

Of course, that would require a CIC with brains and b@lls -- and that, we ain't got... :-(

39 posted on 01/17/2010 9:14:45 PM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...!!)
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To: blam
Because the US is allowing the UN to run the operations. The UN has passed authority to the government of Haiti. The UN claims the government is functioning even though every government building is flattened.

Thank you Hillary. Thank you Obama. Was our military not good enough?
40 posted on 01/17/2010 9:15:14 PM PST by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media.)
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To: blam

There’s lots of aid at the airport .. but the roads are all destroyed so there is a limit to how much of the stuff you can move in helicopters.

I thought once the carrier arrived with the additional helicopters that the issue would be resolved more quickly.

Sadly, the best of plans are still dependent upon the conditions on the ground .. and they’re still in terrible shape.

Quite frankly, I don’t think anybody’s to blame .. conditions are what they are and we’ll just have to make the best of them.


41 posted on 01/17/2010 9:16:03 PM PST by CyberAnt (Healthcare is not a RIGHT guaranteed by the Constitution)
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To: blam
Look at the TV coverage.

Hmm...I'm thinking we have the source of the problem right here.

This is only difficult for the ones who expect instant gratification in time for the 6:00 news. Here's the deal - a monstrous earthquake took out the principal city in a country build on the French model of a central city that is the seat of government and outlying areas that are dependent upon it. There is a very small airport with a single strip operating. The roads from there to where the people are waiting are devastated. There is no magic wand here, only days of herculean work ahead. There is a world's worth of relief supplies choked by this bottleneck. It isn't the fault of the people trying to break through it. When they do so they'll be heroes that are sanctimoniously cursed by an ignorant world press for not doing so quickly enough.

Don't listen to the TV. If they're bleating about it, they're not carrying water in country. Less talk, more do, and we'll be just fine.

42 posted on 01/17/2010 9:26:24 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: blam
From TimesOnLine

It is not being helped by the UN’s move to defer decision-making on aid distribution and rescue teams to a government that scarcely exists. “We allocate resources as the Haitian Government requires,” Romerez Galvez, a UN spokesman said. Every main Haitian ministry building was destroyed along with the Presidential Palace.

FUBAR! How fitting FOX has Whorewaldo in Haiti.
43 posted on 01/17/2010 9:27:36 PM PST by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media.)
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To: Will88

Amen.


44 posted on 01/17/2010 9:28:24 PM PST by tiki (True Christians will not deliberately slander or misrepresent others or their beliefs)
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To: purplelobster

Any Muslim rescue teams arrive yet? I have not heard about Muslim, North Korean, or Cuban teams at this point.

Not saying they aren’t there. Just haven’t heard about them. And in the case of the Middle Easter Muslim nations, they have plenty of money.


45 posted on 01/17/2010 9:31:40 PM PST by Persevero
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To: proudofthesouth

It is a very expensive proposition to maintain the level of aid needed, available at the drop of a hat.

The most efficient thing to do is to stay organized and have warehouses and plans; then put them into effect when the disaster strikes.

They can hardly have planes full of specific aid workers circling the air and giant ships full of tons of aid supplies steaming aimlessly through the oceans. That would cost millions and waste millions.


46 posted on 01/17/2010 9:31:45 PM PST by Persevero
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To: Daisyjane69

FYI. The hospital ship Comfort was undergoing maintenance at the time of the Haitian earthquake. Systems were dismantled.

It would have taken tug boats to get it out of the harbor any sooner.


47 posted on 01/17/2010 9:37:15 PM PST by Tucson Jim
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To: blam

Be assured, the lamestream media WILL NOT play this as a Barry Katrina moment.....


48 posted on 01/17/2010 9:45:44 PM PST by cranked
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To: Gene Eric

GE, what’s nonsense? My assertion or some brotha heading up CTU?


49 posted on 01/17/2010 9:46:14 PM PST by dusttoyou (libs are all wee wee'd up and no place to go)
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To: blam
It is all Bush's fault, he is not doing enough!!!

That is the next crap and Clinton will be praised???

50 posted on 01/17/2010 10:04:04 PM PST by danamco
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