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Now the French Must Prove They're French
Time ^ | January 18, 2010 | BRUCE CRUMLEY

Posted on 01/18/2010 8:03:54 AM PST by stevie_d_64

Like his father before him, French publisher, author and political commentator Eric Naulleau was born into a military family assigned to a temporary foreign posting. But because his birth happened abroad, where his father - himself born in Lebanon to a French army father - was serving France's national interests, Naulleau has had to wage a long and surreal battle with the government to prove that he's actually a French citizen. Naulleau is just one of a growing number of French people born outside France or in the country to foreign parents who are now being told they must present documents supporting their nationality if they want to keep it.

"What a lot of people don't realize is that with the increasingly strict obligation to prove your citizenship, you can walk into a state administration today to have your ID or passport renewed, and walk out virtually a stateless person," says Naulleau, 48, whose family had been posted to Baden-Baden, Germany - about 30 miles from the French border - when he was born in 1961. "The situation is creating a two-class system of citizenship in which French nationals born abroad or to foreign parents are treated as inferior, and forced to prove their worthiness of being French more than others."

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; france; french

1 posted on 01/18/2010 8:03:56 AM PST by stevie_d_64
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To: stevie_d_64

Wee-Wee???


2 posted on 01/18/2010 8:04:22 AM PST by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus sayin')
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To: stevie_d_64
It seems like a Catch-22 --

If they fight for recognition as Frenchmen, then they don't seem very French. If, on the other hand, they refuse to fight and simply run away, they would appear to qualify as French.

3 posted on 01/18/2010 8:06:27 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (We have the 1st so that we can call on people to rebel. We have 2nd so that they can.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

The reason I posteed this was to see how long it takes for the Birth Certificate crowd comes in and explains why we need to see Obama’s credentials...

Not that I am opposed to that idea, it is just ironic how illustrative the whole situation is about that issue...


4 posted on 01/18/2010 8:09:18 AM PST by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus sayin')
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To: stevie_d_64

Sarko’s father was a Hungarian immigrant.


5 posted on 01/18/2010 8:14:15 AM PST by cynwoody
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To: Cincinna; AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; ...

Easy test — if you’re burning other people’s cars in the street, you’re not French.


6 posted on 01/18/2010 8:18:20 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Happy New Year! Freedom is Priceless.)
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To: stevie_d_64
Now the French Must Prove They're French

Over here, you don't even have to prove you're an American to be President.

7 posted on 01/18/2010 8:18:31 AM PST by The Sons of Liberty (Pork Eating CRUSADER - FUBO! Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: stevie_d_64
Now the French Must Prove They're French

Over here, you don't even have to prove you're an American to be President.

8 posted on 01/18/2010 8:18:31 AM PST by The Sons of Liberty (Pork Eating CRUSADER - FUBO! Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: stevie_d_64

I understand the whole point and the emotions of the story. Both of my daughters were born overseas while I was posted there by the U.S. Army. The oldest girl in the FRG and the baby in the ROK. All kinds of questions and comments as well as odd looks tossed their way when they were in applying for jobs, applying for a drivers license, applying for college,etc.


9 posted on 01/18/2010 8:19:34 AM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: stevie_d_64

why don’t they start with the obvious illegals?


10 posted on 01/18/2010 8:24:19 AM PST by Eternal_Bear (`)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

ding ding ding!!! Winner Winner Winner...

But dude, really, you didn’t have to post it twice...hehehe

(don’t worry, happens to me alllll the time...)


11 posted on 01/18/2010 8:25:25 AM PST by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus sayin')
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To: stevie_d_64

I would guess the reason that France is forcing some of its citizens to prove their citizenship is because they want to decrease what they have to pay out in socialist programs.


12 posted on 01/18/2010 8:39:35 AM PST by BuckeyeTexan (Integrity, Honesty, Character, & Loyalty still matter)
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To: stevie_d_64

If they’re requiring people accepted as citizens for decades to prove citizenship, the French are actually going farther than we ever have in this area.


13 posted on 01/18/2010 8:56:41 AM PST by tbw2 (Freeper sci-fi - "Humanity's Edge" - on amazon.com)
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To: stevie_d_64

Not sure why, but since this weekend, almost all of my posts have appeared twice


14 posted on 01/18/2010 9:31:48 AM PST by The Sons of Liberty (Pork Eating CRUSADER - FUBO! Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: stevie_d_64

That should be easy enough...just assume the surrender position!


15 posted on 01/18/2010 9:51:15 AM PST by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., hot enough down there today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: stevie_d_64

Does it require disrobing to show the yellow steak down their backs?


16 posted on 01/18/2010 2:41:15 PM PST by jim35 (Tea Party former Republican)
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To: stevie_d_64

Good for the French.

I wish the Brits would get tough too..
and the US.


17 posted on 01/18/2010 4:26:18 PM PST by dervish (I never saw a wild thing sorry for itself)
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To: stevie_d_64

I am convinced that half the laws passed by France over the last 200 years are about the concept of “Being French.” It’s a country whose #1 activity is navel gazing.

#2 is smoking.

#3 is smoking while thinking about what it means to be French.

#4 is smoking while thinking about what it means to be French and eating cheese.


18 posted on 01/19/2010 10:05:18 AM PST by MrRobertPlant2009
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To: MrRobertPlant2009

I’m a fan of #1...

“And just because I am chained to the tree, doesn’t mean I can’t bark at the porch!”


19 posted on 01/19/2010 2:09:25 PM PST by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus sayin')
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