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(vanity) Impressed by the Haitian People
1/23/10 | me

Posted on 01/23/2010 5:06:14 AM PST by Daisyjane69

I must say, I've been very impressed by the people of Haiti in the aftermath of the earthquake. Yes, there have been reports of some violence, looting, and the rest.

But I confess, ten days plus after the fact, I find their behavior simply remarkable. I've been through a measly week long power outage and you would have thought it was the end of the world, judging by the masses. We all saw what went on with Katrina, within 48-72 hours.

Historians will look at this years from now, and they are smarter than me.

Is it just that Americans are "soft" and expect their gov't to be a parent? Perhaps.

One thing is certain; Haitians expect nothing from their gov't, so they have not been disappointed.


TOPICS: Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: earthquake; haiti; haitiearthquake; haitiearthquake2010
But it seems to me the people of Haiti are pretty damn sturdy.
1 posted on 01/23/2010 5:06:15 AM PST by Daisyjane69
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To: Daisyjane69
I've been pondering why some people are still being pulled from the rubble alive (but barely).

Is it because Haitians are more likely to have suffered hardship? (I mean, not like being buried under tons of rubble, but still).

2 posted on 01/23/2010 5:09:46 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

I’ve wondered that, too. And your idea has some merit.

The other thing is, I could swear that when Turkey had that terrible earthquake a few years ago, they found people alive after 2 weeks.

I should check on that, but that notion is stuck in my mind, somehow.


3 posted on 01/23/2010 5:14:22 AM PST by Daisyjane69 (Michael Reagan: "Welcome back, Dad, even if you're wearing a dress and bearing children this time)
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To: 1rudeboy
Is it because Haitians are more likely to have suffered hardship?

The tent cities that are now being erected are probably accomodations that exceed what many of them had prior to the disaster.

To people in these impoverished third world countries and below, survival is a daily way of life for them. They are far better equipped to deal with this mentally than you or I.

4 posted on 01/23/2010 5:41:23 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (I want a hoochie-mama for Christmas, only a hoochie-mama will do............)
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To: Daisyjane69; All

I amazed at the resolve and dignity of the Haitian people....that being said, I am not totally surprised.

One thing I have found from traveling in 3rd world countries is that the people who are the poorest have a better outlook on life than most of the people I know here. They also have stonger families IMO and more faith than people here.

This is my opinion and many here will disagree and even level the voodoo charge agaisnt the Haitians, which is absurd. People should not even think of criticizing these people until they have walked a mile through the rublle in their shoes (which they probably do not have).


5 posted on 01/23/2010 5:52:51 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (If guns cause crime, then all of mine are defective!)
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To: Daisyjane69

I think their resiliancy comes from the fact that they have been living in squalor in Haiti for decades. For many of these people conditions now are not a lot different from what they were before the quake.

I heard a news report this week that the US troops on the scene are in a real quandry, because there is so much to be done, and important, formal decisions that need to be made, but there is simply not enough left of what little Government there was to make any decisions or direct the rescue efforts in any way. Our troops are very cognizant of the fact that they could get sucked in to being a defacto “Occupation Force” simply because there is nobody else to do any of the things that must be done.

There is no building code of any kind in Haiti, so there is no direction about how or where to safely build anything. Who is going to establish a building code to work from?? How do US Forces implement a legal document like a building code without appearing to be running the Country??

The logistical problems are overwhelming. How do you clean up the mess with only a few trucks and little fuel on the island? Virtually everything that is needed for reconstruction of any kind will have to be imported from off the Island, but until the Haitian cargo handling facilities can be rebuilt from scratch, you have no way to get a cargo vessel to a pier much less unload containers from ships.

I doubt that Haiti even has a working concrete plant now, so somebody is going to have to bring one of those in, along with new concrete trucks to haul the mix. And the first thing the trucks would have to do is pour new roads so they can drive the trucks to where they are needed.

Such a mess! The media is trying to compare the disaster in Haiti to the Indonesian tsunami and the rebuilding that has taken place there. The biggest difference between the two, is that the Indonesian Government was not destroyed in the tsunami, and was able to direct and aid in the relief efforts. That is not the case in Haiti and it is an enormous obstacle to any recovery.


6 posted on 01/23/2010 5:53:14 AM PST by Bean Counter
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To: Daisyjane69

They have nothing now. Of course, they had nothing before.

It’s like growing up decades ago without air conditioning. You didn’t know what you were missing.


7 posted on 01/23/2010 5:53:27 AM PST by ryan71 (Let's Roll!)
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To: Daisyjane69
The people in Detroit have something to learn from the Haitians..
Detroit still barely works.. kinda sorta..

Teachers from Haiti could teach the people in Detroit how to totally ruin a working society.. and cannibalize anything that Does WORK..

8 posted on 01/23/2010 6:08:30 AM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: Daisyjane69

The Haitians didn’t have electricity & running water before the earthquake.

As I’ve posted before, Haiti was hell-on-earth prior to this disaster.


9 posted on 01/23/2010 6:10:14 AM PST by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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Remember this how the media looks at the world; Bush bad and Obama good.

We have supported a missionary in Haiti for many years his e-mails aren't so glowing about conditions there as the media points out. From his reports there is a lot of lawlessness going on right now and much suffering. Where he is no aid has reached his village. He has had armed guards before and now really needs them. I am sure the Obama Mania Media are wanting to paint a picture that everything is just great. Well maybe it is great from their hotel room windows.

10 posted on 01/23/2010 6:18:16 AM PST by BeAllYouCanBe (Until Americans love their own children more than they love Nancy Pelosi this suicide will continue.)
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To: hosepipe

earlier tonight on TV, perhaps CNN, I heard that in some of the “camps” that people are actually setting up “road stands” of sorts, to do business. Whether selling goods, or services, such as the energy to charge up cell phones and the like.

This comes in the wake of hearing a few days ago that satellite-type banks are being set up in Haiti.

The people of Haiti are engaging in capitalism to emerge from this mess? Who knew? Go figure.

I’m far more inclined to donate to Haiti then I ever was tempted to contribute to Katrina relief. That’s for sure.


11 posted on 01/23/2010 6:18:22 AM PST by Daisyjane69 (Michael Reagan: "Welcome back, Dad, even if you're wearing a dress and bearing children this time)
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To: BeAllYouCanBe

http://jesusinhaiti.org/

He has daily updates on the conditions there.


12 posted on 01/23/2010 6:19:40 AM PST by BeAllYouCanBe (Until Americans love their own children more than they love Nancy Pelosi this suicide will continue.)
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To: Daisyjane69

Growing up in Miami, I have met and worked with many Hatians over the years. They are a very kind people, Catholics, and family oriented. The first Hatian I ever met was a janitor and he spoke English, Creole, French, and Latin. He would give me lessons in Latin while working. He also told me that the children over there learned most of these languages in school. Although they are poor, they lived very rich lives.


13 posted on 01/23/2010 7:08:09 AM PST by FreeManWhoCan ("By the pricking of my thumbs, something wicked has arrived. (BHO)")
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To: Daisyjane69; AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; ...
Yes, there have been reports of some violence, looting, and the rest. But I confess, ten days plus after the fact, I find their behavior simply remarkable. I've been through a measly week long power outage and you would have thought it was the end of the world, judging by the masses. We all saw what went on with Katrina, within 48-72 hours.
Well said, Daisyjane69!
14 posted on 01/23/2010 7:17:27 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Happy New Year! Freedom is Priceless.)
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To: FreeManWhoCan

1-children in a food line saying -Thank You-for their plate
of food.
2- people being pulled from the rubble-Thanking God for
saving them.
3-chants of USA,USA as a NYC rescue team saves a young boy
and his sister.


15 posted on 01/23/2010 7:26:35 AM PST by Dr. Ursus
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That’s all fine and good, but we don’t need any more ‘immigrants’ here.
Americans who are losing their jobs and homes should come first.


16 posted on 01/23/2010 7:27:45 AM PST by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: patriot08
That’s all fine and good, but we don’t need any more ‘immigrants’ here. Americans who are losing their jobs and homes should come first.

I agree 100%.

17 posted on 01/23/2010 7:40:40 AM PST by bigheadfred (Be who you are and say what you feel: Those who mind don't matter.Those who matter don't mind.)
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