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"Birther" Whispering Campaign Inside the Democrat Party?
Self | HMV

Posted on 01/24/2010 4:52:57 PM PST by Hillary'sMoralVoid

It started out innocently in a conversation with a well-connected Democrat friend who is now-disillusioned Obama voter.

We were discussing the Massachusetts election, and I joked that I didn’t know if the Democrats could stand another three years under Obama. He fired back that he and several of his friends didn’t know if they could stand ONE more year under Obama.

I posited that the only way it could happen that fast is if you could get him out of office on something like an eligibility issue, and that I couldn’t imagine any Democrat would ever become a “birther”!

There was a silence for a few moments and then he confided that “one might surprised at what is being whispered about by disillusioned members at high levels in the party”. He cut the conversation off at that point and we reverted back to small talk.

This all sounded so not credible to me, but you can never underestimate the Democrats’ desire to stay in power. The more I pondered his words, the more intriguing and perhaps terrifying the outcomes became.

Consider this scenario, the Democrats actually let “birther” investigations to go forward, publicly condemning the Republicans for pushing the issues, while quietly not impeding or even facilitating them . Two outcomes can happen. Obama is proven eligible and the Republicans are embarrassed and fall from public grace. Obama retains power and Democrats regain some public confidence.

Should Obama be removed from office, it becomes the ultimate opportunity to play the race card, because the still-“conservative” Supreme Court would have to “conspire” with the "racist" Republicans to force Obama’s departure from office. Democrats could swear Obama’s innocence, a repeat of the Lewinsky defense, in which Bill Clinton came out more powerful politically. The Democrats could raise the race issue with the Republicans until the end of recorded time for removing the first Black President from office.

At the precipice of their political comeback, the Republicans could fall hard! A Democrat "Rope a Dope"?

Admittedly this is a shameless self post, maybe I’m reading more into this than was really there. If you disagree, flame away, pull the post, and tell me to take my meds and go to my room.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; birther; birthers; buyersremorse; certifigate
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To: Seizethecarp
Dr. Manning: I think after Obama, black people and white people can begin to legitimately lose their black and white identities and move forward as Americans.

In my heart of hearts, I believe most of America is there now, but it is the race pimps who keep stirring racial tensions, holding us in a hostile racial limbo while creating problems that wouldn't exist without them. They are the ones who profit politically and financially from racism while the country suffers.

Dr. Manning might be right about a racial setback if obama's ineligibility goes mainstream, but it would all be part of the healing/learning process we as individuals and as a nation must go through, even while the race peddlers are doing their best to hold us back.

181 posted on 01/25/2010 9:31:27 AM PST by GBA
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To: NBCforSure
I wonder about the succession question as well. If obama, for whatever reason, is unable to continue as President, we are clear about the chain of succession, but how does succession work in our presidential race if obama was ineligible to even be in the campaign?

In other sorts of races, if the winner is later found out to be ineligible to have run, the winner is disqualified and the win goes to whomever came in second place. Would that rule apply to the Presidential race? Is Biden also ineligible since he was part of an ineligible team or does he stand alone and apart from obama somehow as VP and is now President?

And, what is the legal status of all that obama has done since becoming President? Would a judge's rulings still stand if it is learned he is an impostor? I wouldn't think so, but I really don't know.

182 posted on 01/25/2010 9:51:49 AM PST by GBA
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To: Southack

Do ya suppose the Pubbies will play this card for the mid-terms? ... ‘Got to change the leaqdership so when Barry is removed we don’t end up with Pelosi’.


183 posted on 01/25/2010 9:57:31 AM PST by MHGinTN (Obots, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: Pharmboy

How many times must we explain this to your ilk? Do you actually believe Hatellary could have won the election without the black vote? Put down the talking/question points and back away from the keyboard.


184 posted on 01/25/2010 10:03:41 AM PST by MHGinTN (Obots, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: rcrngroup

Have you ever considered the irony to the demonrat party if Byrd were sworn in? ... the first black pres_ _ent replaced by a Klansman!


185 posted on 01/25/2010 10:06:40 AM PST by MHGinTN (Obots, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: Poincare

I wanna see his app for the Fulbright scholarship while attending Occi ...


186 posted on 01/25/2010 10:12:10 AM PST by MHGinTN (Obots, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: Joe Marine 76

Since Hatellary and Barry have the same goal of socilist Ameerica with an aborted Republic, it is genius to allow Barry to get into the White House, institute the programs to Cloward-Pivenizq America, then have him removed and Hatellary installed without the baggage of having destoryed tghe American economy and the ‘we the people’ Republic.


187 posted on 01/25/2010 10:17:46 AM PST by MHGinTN (Obots, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

Good point.

Then we should assume that she, in all her glory, will become “The Saviour of The Republic.”

God Help Us.


188 posted on 01/25/2010 10:22:25 AM PST by Joe Marine 76 (Semper Fi!)
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To: Seizethecarp
There is a sort of spiritual brilliance in Pastor Manning's words ...

"By that I mean black people and white people will finally recognize that it was the epitome of racism to have voted for Obama and that they will ultimately repent of it and stop dividing America along racial lines. It was just the worst thing to have done, to continue to promote racism, and I think after Obama, black people and white people can begin to legitimately lose their black and white identities and move forward as Americans." Oh Lord, would that America could see so clearly!

189 posted on 01/25/2010 10:26:35 AM PST by MHGinTN (Obots, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

My “ilk?” Get a life...


190 posted on 01/25/2010 10:32:27 AM PST by Pharmboy (The Stone Age did not end because they ran out of stones...)
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To: MHGinTN
I wanna see his app for the Fulbright scholarship while attending Occi ...

Fulbright scholarships are only for graduate students, not undergrads.

191 posted on 01/25/2010 10:41:10 AM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: hoosiermama; All
Thanks for the ping.

More people suspect something at this point than they will say in public.

However, Conservatives can't do anything about this ...
at least not until they control the House and the Senate ...


192 posted on 01/25/2010 10:46:00 AM PST by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: Hillary'sMoralVoid

I called this a while ago, If November turns out the way I expect it will, the odds of Democrats themselves (those that survive the coming purge) will draw up articles of impeachment against Fauxbama and push for his impeachment, is at least at 50/50 at this point if not higher.

If Fauxbama continues the damn the torpedos ignore the electorate arrogance that he and his handlers have been following, through November, I’d say its almost a GIVEN he will wind up impeached and tossed out and it will be his own party driving it.

He is rapidly becoming a man without a party, and he and his handlers are in complete dreamland when they spout off that the Brown victory was a validation of Heatlh Scare etc.... Yep, when you want to validate a policy you vote for guy who says he won’t vote for it, yep, that’s right folks... that’s what it means, at least to Fauxbama et al.

He is politically dead, the axis of evil (pelosi, reid, fauxbama) are politically lame duck dead men walking. Fauxbama is a man without a country, and his isolation will continue to be more pronounced. The spitshine is off the turd now, and its ok to mock the stuffed suit for being an empty suit and an emptier head. The blood is in the water, its only a matter of time before the press, which created him, will turn on him.

I mean come on, teleprompters for school kids? How idiotic can you be. They spun and covered up for this joker and his handlers, but no more.... it took a year and a half longer than it should have for this guy to be the laughing stock he truly is, because the press covered his pathetic butt. Now however it has happened, and he doesn’t have the content of character to survive what is coming with any sort of dignity. The coming melt down will be EPIC to watch folks, keep the popcorn handy.

Pretending you are back in campaign mode isn’t going to save this fool, the acts of desperation are already apparent. When continued rejection become obvious this guy will completely break down.


193 posted on 01/25/2010 10:52:16 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: MHGinTN
"I think after Obama, black people and white people can begin to legitimately lose their black and white identities and move forward as Americans."

This from the same guy whose website says "Manning is fiercely opposed to the gentrification of Harlem and calls for its residents to boycott its shops, restaurants, doctors, banks and churches. That action, combined with a general rent strike, would force all property owners out of Harlem, he said, leaving the neighborhood to its rightful inheritors: black people."

194 posted on 01/25/2010 11:00:46 AM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
"Manning is fiercely opposed to the gentrification of Harlem and calls for its residents to boycott its shops, restaurants, doctors, banks and churches. That action, combined with a general rent strike, would force all property owners out of Harlem, he said, leaving the neighborhood to its rightful inheritors: black people."

What, you don't see the spiritual brilliance in that?

195 posted on 01/25/2010 11:09:54 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Hillary'sMoralVoid

I predict that a foreign country will, somehow, expose Obama by obtaining his Long Form Vault Birth Certificate. The BC will be certified and, then, SCOTUS will rule it to be unconstitutional for the sitting president to hold office. There are a lot of counties out there who are more then willing to blackmail this guy. He has set himself up for blackmail and, in doing so, has put this country in harms way. I believe it will be a dark and uncertain time for this country but we will survive but it will be for the best. Since he is not qualified under the Constitution to be president, he will simply be removed from office and not impeached which will spare us the impeachment drama.


196 posted on 01/25/2010 11:22:48 AM PST by Evil Slayer (Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war)
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To: Evil Slayer; LucyT; Fred Nerks
“I predict that a foreign country will, somehow, expose Obama by obtaining his Long Form Vault Birth Certificate. The BC will be certified and, then, SCOTUS will rule it to be unconstitutional for the sitting president to hold office. There are a lot of counties out there who are more then willing to blackmail this guy.”

If Obama has a Kenya BC, he is likely already being blackmailed!

Remember that the leverage of the blackmailer to gain monetary and political concessions from Obama ends when the blackmailer releases the document. They will only contemplate actually releasing the BC if and when there are no more benefits that they can squeeze out of Obama.

As Obama’s power fades and his capacity to grant secret concessions to blackmailers fades, and if multiple BC-holders make conflicting demands in exchange for silence, the benefit to particular blackmailers may shift to bringing Obama down. That is the point that I am hoping we have reached, especially in Kenya.

197 posted on 01/25/2010 11:46:59 AM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: HamiltonJay
I think many people working under him are now seeing the truth. He is completely incompetent as an executive leader. A total bozo.

He should have been a news anchor because thats all he can do. Read a prepared text and look important while doing it.

I remember the rumblings from insiders of the Jim McGreavy administration a few months before he announced he was gay.
Insiders do get this kind of info. They told me he was gay. I thought, no way, he's married, has a kid. And why are they telling me this. It was incredible to see him resign after I was told this crap, months before.

So yes, I am fully confident that Dems are openly discussing how to get rid of him.

198 posted on 01/25/2010 11:57:54 AM PST by PA-RIVER
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To: Spaulding

Placemark.

I like this thread.


199 posted on 01/25/2010 1:46:01 PM PST by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: Lazamataz

“I am actually aware of, and fully instrumental to, this very plan.”

Everything falls into place now....


200 posted on 01/25/2010 2:28:17 PM PST by El Sordo
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