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Jury Finds Man Guilty of Murder in Kansas Abortion Provider’s Death
Foxnews.com ^ | 1/29/10

Posted on 01/29/2010 9:49:10 AM PST by FutureRocketMan

WICHITA, Kan. — A man who said he killed prominent Kansas abortion provider Dr. George Tiller in order to save the lives of unborn children was convicted Friday of murder.

The jury deliberated for just 37 minutes before finding Scott Roeder, 51, of Kansas City, Mo., guilty of premeditated, first-degree murder in the May 31 shooting death.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Kansas; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: abortion; abortionists; courts; notoktokillkillers; oktokillbabies; roeder; scottroeder; tiller
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To: eleni121

Evil is tearing apart babies in abbatoirs. Evil is sending millions of humans to the gulags. Evil is rounding up millions in death camps.

Evil is NOT killing a Nazi or Commie or Turk or murderer of human children.


So using your logic, the killing of an abortionist is one of the best things that one can do. How many have you killed? How many children have you saved?


321 posted on 01/29/2010 10:45:44 PM PST by Grunthor (McCain; for when you really need to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory!)
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26-week abortion
322 posted on 01/29/2010 11:43:30 PM PST by Cedar
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To: Gator113

So, which is it? Do you claim you’re NOT a statist or do you just not like being yanked out of the statist closet? You obviously view it as derogatory. Own it.

Further, I specifically stated you had no rebuttal, which is why you resorted to ad hominem argument in calling me a moron, so your statement “As for a “rebuttal”, LMAO. I’m not debating with you, fool.” suggests I viewed your reply as rebuttal when, in fact, I specifically said it wasn’t a rebuttal and that you are seeking cover in ad hominem which is where people with no valid rebuttal go. Maybe your more fundamental problem is lack of reading comprehension.

You are NOT anti-abortion. You may think you are, but you are not.


323 posted on 01/30/2010 1:32:09 AM PST by chilltherats (First, kill all the lawyers (now that they ARE the tyrants).......)
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To: DryFly

no one asked you..lol


324 posted on 01/30/2010 1:33:39 AM PST by wardaddy (Good Yankees in Massachusetts, I salute you all from bended knee in appreciation)
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To: Cedar

that will probably get yanked but is proof enough why I could care less about Tiller getting shot


325 posted on 01/30/2010 1:38:28 AM PST by wardaddy (Good Yankees in Massachusetts, I salute you all from bended knee in appreciation)
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To: eleni121

Thanks for your note.

People with that view are not only statists, they’re also not pro-life. They simply lie, either to themselves deliberately or to others unwittingly. When the rubber meets the road, they side with the baby-killers. That says it all. Desiring the state to end the life of the one person who put a stop to the buthering of unborn innocents when it was the state that failed those unborn innocents in the first place is sick, sick, sick. It’s not even logical.

I don’t know what was in Roeder’s mind. He clearly knew what would happen to him, so maybe it was his destiny. Maybe it was God’s will. Maybe Roeder’s crazy. I don’t know. What I do know is that somebody finally put that rabid murderer down by placing his own life on the line. If the state or the citizens of KS had done its job, there would have been no scenario in which someone would believe that step was necessary. There’s plenty of blood to go around.


326 posted on 01/30/2010 1:46:59 AM PST by chilltherats (First, kill all the lawyers (now that they ARE the tyrants).......)
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To: Grunthor

The only thing that would stop me is the fear of life in prison or the DP. If I was dying of a terrible disease and didn’t have long to live anyway, it’d be a different story.


327 posted on 01/30/2010 1:51:06 AM PST by chilltherats (First, kill all the lawyers (now that they ARE the tyrants).......)
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To: chilltherats

You’re mentally ill. I hope that you find some help, but I doubt that you will.


328 posted on 01/30/2010 1:55:08 AM PST by Gator113 (Obama is America's First FAILED "light skinned African American [Pres-dent] with no Negro dialect..")
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To: eleni121

Good point.

Sometimes someone has to do something. Clearly this country no longer has the moral infrastructure to outlaw barbaric acts against children, even though we have the infrastructure to stand up a military established for our physical protection.

It was legal treason to defy King George. But some things have to be done, legal or not, damn the conserquences.

But I have to disagree with your point, “It appears that this righteous cause of protection of children has not yet reached the level of the state “taking care of business” for us.” The state is not in either an incompetent nor passive position. In fact, it was the overt actions of the state itself and the citizens of KS that set the stage for this to happen.


329 posted on 01/30/2010 1:59:47 AM PST by chilltherats (First, kill all the lawyers (now that they ARE the tyrants).......)
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To: tired_old_conservative

Some of us believe there is a moral right to put a stop to the mass murder of innocents. We are simply too cowardly to do it. We don’t want to be dragged out of our nice, warm homes away from our families and friends, put on trial, and then executed or imprisoned for decades.

Our revolutionary ancestors risked their lives, their families’ lives, their wealth, their future, everything, for a moral right to freedom from tyranny and the opportunity for LIFE, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. They fought, bled and died for it. Now we whine about not breaking man’s laws created by a statist cabal of tyrannical, elitist politicians who empty our pockets and impose themselves through their laws into the most intimate aspects of our lives. That is not what we signed up for.

How long will people continue to respect the laws of such tyrants and the sycophantic, bloodsucking parasites they breed for their bureaucracies?

Moral right transcends man’s law. If it didn’t, we wouldn’t be here.


330 posted on 01/30/2010 2:16:01 AM PST by chilltherats (First, kill all the lawyers (now that they ARE the tyrants).......)
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To: ohioWfan

Should he have challenged Tiller to a duel?

When did Tiller ever engage in a fair fight with a fetus?


331 posted on 01/30/2010 2:17:29 AM PST by chilltherats (First, kill all the lawyers (now that they ARE the tyrants).......)
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To: Diamond

Great point. Roe IS anarchy.


332 posted on 01/30/2010 2:19:01 AM PST by chilltherats (First, kill all the lawyers (now that they ARE the tyrants).......)
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To: Gator113

You’re morally ill. The only hope for you is Purgatory. I hope you get lucky and that works out for you. Meanwhile, enjoy all the benefits the State has to offer you while you’re alive. They owe you. Carrying their water can’t always be a cakewalk.


333 posted on 01/30/2010 2:31:47 AM PST by chilltherats (First, kill all the lawyers (now that they ARE the tyrants).......)
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To: factmart
If we had 20 thousands of Scott’s, Doctors would not do the killing of Babies any more.

Why stop at doctors that perform third trimester abortions?

Why not also go after doctors that perform first trimester abortions?

Why not also go after doctors that implant IUD's into women's uteruses?

Why not also go after pharmacists that dispense abortion pills?

Why not go after women who have IUD's and women who have had abortions or women that may have an abortion in the future?

So, just where do you draw the line?

Now remember, life begins at conception, so the pharmacist that dispenses the morning after pill is in the very same business as Dr. Tiller.

334 posted on 01/30/2010 2:44:01 AM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: FutureRocketMan

God Bless his soul. He succeeded not only in bringing justice to a vicious murderer, Roeder succeeded in closing the abortion mill down! He is a hero and people who think that you have to be a nutcase to believe so should do a very serious morality check.


335 posted on 01/30/2010 2:48:37 AM PST by Wpin (I do not regret my admiration for W)
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To: Yossarian

“My opinion: A killer killed a killer. If we were to have people kill in disregard for the law - as bad as the law is - we’d have anarchy that would dwarf even the horror of abortion.”

You are joking right? Fifty million deaths at the hands of abortionists and you think killing a few of their murdering bunch is more dangerous than that? Get a reality check...


336 posted on 01/30/2010 2:50:41 AM PST by Wpin (I do not regret my admiration for W)
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To: steve-b

‘The only disgusting breach of justice I see here is Kansas’s failure to apply the death penalty.”

Oh, they have...they have killed hundreds of thousands of innocent babies...isn’t that enough blood for you?


337 posted on 01/30/2010 2:51:42 AM PST by Wpin (I do not regret my admiration for W)
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To: Gator113

“Premeditated murder should have gotten this nut case the death penalty.”

It did, Roeder carried out the sentence when the justice system failed.


338 posted on 01/30/2010 2:55:15 AM PST by Wpin (I do not regret my admiration for W)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

“Er, the guy shot a man down in cold blood in front of dozens of witnesses, and admitted it later. Not sure how he could “prove his innocence” in this case....”

If the defense is “justifiable homicide” then being technically guilty of the act doesn’t come into it.

Kansas didn’t allow for that kind of defense apparently, so Roeder will have to be satisfied being judged by a “higher authority.” As will we all.


339 posted on 01/30/2010 2:57:25 AM PST by PLMerite (Ride to the sound of the Guns - I'll probably need help.)
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To: swain_forkbeard

“It sounds like you consider fetuses to be living persons. If so, do you believe he was morally justified though legally guilty of the crime?”

He was not legally guilty of murder. The “law” that allows the mass murder of innocent babies is an illegal act. It violates Natural Law (God’s Law). Natural Law transcends national law as witnessed in the Nuremberg trials following World War ll.


340 posted on 01/30/2010 2:57:43 AM PST by Wpin (I do not regret my admiration for W)
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