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It's long, but worth the effort, IMHO.
1 posted on 02/08/2010 12:37:58 AM PST by neverdem
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This is a gem, IMHO.


2 posted on 02/08/2010 12:40:16 AM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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BUMP for later reading...


4 posted on 02/08/2010 1:16:10 AM PST by MplsSteve
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To: neverdem

Thanks for posting...great read.


6 posted on 02/08/2010 1:32:26 AM PST by kalee (The offences we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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One thought which I’ve had many times before, but which this article impresses upon me even more strongly (because Jay is relatively neglected as one of the key “founders”) is that if one takes a list of the key members of that generation, each one individually and most certainly all of them together are greater, wiser, more moral, more admirable than virtually ANY political leaders ever produced in the Muslim world!

Really, where in the entire history of the Islamic world is there even one leader of such admirable qualities and ideas??? Sure one can point to “great” warriors and “great” tyrants in the Islamic world, but where has there ever been a “great” leader for freedom, constitutional government, and citizens’ rights?

Well, of course, those principles and achievements are virtually non-existent in the entire Islamic world, since “Sharia” law and Muslim beliefs, customs, etc are so much at odds with the principles of a free republic.

Thinking about John Jay, George Washington, Alexander Hamilton, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, Ben Franklin et al.... and of course one can continue the list and also argue the relative merits and order of priority for each one..... truly an amazing generation for all of world history.... but Muslims cannot produce even ONE such figure, or else he/she would be quickly put to death!


7 posted on 02/08/2010 1:43:06 AM PST by Enchante (Obamanation: are you really concerned about "foreign" campaign donations? Let's see all of yours!!)
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To: neverdem

All American students should be required to take a biography course featuring the patriots of the American Revolution every year. Just reading the Founding Fathers’ quotations is quite illuminating of their thought processes, education and moral values.


9 posted on 02/08/2010 2:04:21 AM PST by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: neverdem

What an incredibly impressive man! Thank you for posting this article, it is a real treat.


11 posted on 02/08/2010 2:24:38 AM PST by Wpin (I do not regret my admiration for W)
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To: neverdem

later


13 posted on 02/08/2010 2:50:05 AM PST by I_be_tc
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To: neverdem

Thank you for posting. Very interesting reading.


14 posted on 02/08/2010 4:32:18 AM PST by Redhd2
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ping for later


15 posted on 02/08/2010 4:34:53 AM PST by Wife of D28Man
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To: neverdem
At the Virginia constitutional ratifying convention, Patrick Henry was deeply suspicious of the northeastern states. Since they were dependent on ship borne trade and not agriculture, he feared that they would purposely shut down Mississippi River access for southern farm goods in order to ensure a permanently weak south.

Your post filled in many blanks regarding this matter. Thanks.

17 posted on 02/08/2010 5:35:09 AM PST by Jacquerie (There is food value in beer. There is no beer value in food.)
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bump for later...


18 posted on 02/08/2010 6:05:10 AM PST by BallparkBoys (Republicans spend $100,000 getting women into clothes while Democrats spend $100,000 getting women o)
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To: neverdem

bump for later


19 posted on 02/08/2010 6:17:53 AM PST by Auntie Mame (Fear not tomorrow. God is already there.)
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To: neverdem
Bump!


20 posted on 02/08/2010 7:56:14 AM PST by rdb3 (The mouth is the exhaust pipe of the heart. WHO DAT!)
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Columbia Ping needed.

Wonderful how so many of our Founding Fathers, Hamilton, Livingston and Jay were students at small King’s College and remained friends throughout their lives.


21 posted on 02/08/2010 8:37:21 AM PST by wildbill (You're just jealous because the Voices talk only to me.)
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24 posted on 02/08/2010 10:50:55 AM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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25 posted on 02/08/2010 11:02:04 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Happy New Year! Freedom is Priceless.)
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BTT


26 posted on 02/08/2010 11:18:23 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: neverdem

Bump!


27 posted on 02/08/2010 3:21:16 PM PST by Paul Ross (Ronald Reagan-1987:"We are always willing to be trade partners but never trade patsies.")
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To: neverdem
Thanks for posting -- took me awhile to finish, but well worth it.

BFL, btw.

Cheers!

29 posted on 02/08/2010 5:17:27 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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bookmark


30 posted on 02/08/2010 7:53:31 PM PST by Pelham (ObamaCare, it comes with a toe tag)
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