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Climategate U-turn: Astonishment as scientist at centre of global warming email row admits vital...
dailymail.co.uk ^ | 13th February 2010 | Jonathan Petre

Posted on 02/13/2010 6:46:44 PM PST by neverdem

Astonishment as scientist at centre of global warming email row admits vital data was not well organised

The academic at the centre of the ‘Climategate’ affair, whose raw data is crucial to the theory of climate change, has admitted that he has trouble ‘keeping track’ of the information.

Colleagues say that the reason Professor Phil Jones has refused Freedom of Information requests is that he may have actually lost the relevant papers.

Professor Jones told the BBC yesterday there was truth in the observations of colleagues that he lacked organisational skills, that his office was swamped with piles of paper and that his record keeping is ‘not as good as it should be’.

The data is crucial to the famous ‘hockey stick graph’ used by climate change advocates to support the theory.

Professor Jones also conceded the possibility that the world was warmer in medieval times than now – suggesting global warming may not be a man-made phenomenon.

And he said that for the past 15 years there has been no ‘statistically significant’ warming.

The admissions will be seized on by sceptics as fresh evidence that there are serious flaws at the heart of the science of climate change and the orthodoxy that recent rises in temperature are largely man-made.

Professor Jones has been in the spotlight since he...

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He also agreed that there had been two periods which experienced similar warming, from 1910 to 1940 and from 1975 to 1998, but said these could be explained by natural phenomena whereas more recent warming could not.

He further admitted that in the last 15 years there had been no ‘statistically significant’ warming, although he argued this was a blip rather than the long-term trend...

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To: neverdem
Anybody that believes anything coming from the mouth of Phil Jones is bigger fool than Al Gore. These guys are just trying to cover their rear ends.

Steve McIntyre over at ClimateAudit.org filed the British version of Freedom of Information requests for years with CRU and they weren't turning him down because they were embarrassed to show how disorganized they were. They turned him down because they knew he was smart enough to skunk them out of the scam they were and continue to be participating in. ClimateGate is the direct result of those FOI inquiries by McIntyre. He should be Time Man of the Year for the work he has done. But of course we all know that will never happen since Time doesn't give out that "honor" to real heroes.

21 posted on 02/13/2010 7:04:33 PM PST by InterceptPoint
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To: Tzimisce

>> These people need to be in JAIL!

These people are pawns, and the radical ‘science’ their weaponry.


22 posted on 02/13/2010 7:07:11 PM PST by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: neverdem

The entire man made “global warming/climate change” movement is dead.....

However, that won’t stop the government, because they have figured out a way to extract revenue from us, by using that as a reason.


23 posted on 02/13/2010 7:07:47 PM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: Gene Eric

We got Gored.


24 posted on 02/13/2010 7:10:49 PM PST by 353FMG (Save the Planet -- Eliminate Socialism)
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To: neverdem
vital data was not well organised

I guess the Hitler diaries, the Howard Hughes autobiography, and the Texas Air National Guard documents were similarly "not well organised."

25 posted on 02/13/2010 7:10:59 PM PST by denydenydeny ("Leftists are like vampires; shine a light on what they are doing and they retreat."-Andrew Klavan)
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To: neverdem; Ernest_at_the_Beach

Don’t see any mention of this yet in the BBC. Guess they are wondering where their pension plans are going to go.


26 posted on 02/13/2010 7:11:42 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned....)
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To: neverdem
has admitted that he has trouble ‘keeping track’ of the information.

Also known as the Arthur Andersen excuse.

27 posted on 02/13/2010 7:13:05 PM PST by Raycpa
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To: neverdem
This has been an attempted takeover of the governments of the entire Western World that may be failing. The historical punishment for such efforts when they fail has always been execution of the perpetrators.

It may be failing because governments are still implementing the AGW measures or trying to. The EPA is moving to control everything with the regulation that will come with its declaration of CO2 to be a pollutant. The Republicans may reverse that rule in Congress if they are able to overcome ACORN in November and President Soetoro may possibly not veto that.

That EPA ruling demonstrates that EPA has near plenipotentiary powers already and we have to rely on Congress vetoing each new usurpation as it happens. Much of EPA's damage will be a continual tightening of rules without such declarations in the future even with a Republican Congress because the voters will not notice it as it happens and Congress won't care. Eventually EPA will do it all to us without any Cap&Trade laws. Such pressure is inherent in the very existence of the organization.

28 posted on 02/13/2010 7:16:24 PM PST by arthurus ("If you don't believe in shooting abortionists, don't shoot an abortionist." -Ann C.)
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To: neverdem

“I’m not a liar, I’m just incompetent. That’s why they made me the one and only, world renowned global warming record keeper, on whom everyone in the field relies.”


29 posted on 02/13/2010 7:16:56 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: neverdem
No data that Jones has controlled can be trusted.

Toss those tens of thousands of pages into a bonfire.

30 posted on 02/13/2010 7:17:48 PM PST by TChad
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To: neverdem
The academic at the centre of the ‘Climategate’ affair, whose raw data is crucial to the theory of climate change, has admitted that he has trouble ‘keeping track’ of the information.

Colleagues say that the reason Professor Phil Jones has refused Freedom of Information requests is that he may have actually lost the relevant papers.

Then he shouldn't publish the research.

31 posted on 02/13/2010 7:18:01 PM PST by gitmo (FR vs DU: n4mage vs DUmage)
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To: neverdem

Throwing himself under the bus.


32 posted on 02/13/2010 7:20:38 PM PST by Iron Munro (God is great, Beer is good, People are crazy)
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To: muawiyah
My 21yo daughter is taking a meteorology class this semester. She told me last night it's her favorite class ever (she's always been a weather nerd tho).

The professor told them the 1st day that global warming is a hoax, and every day he tells them more and more lies that have been perpetrated on us.

Stuff I've been telling her for years, but of course they usually have to hear it from someone else at that age!

BTW, I think that prof is head of the department....or else he'd be long gone.

Mrs. Prince of Space

33 posted on 02/13/2010 7:23:07 PM PST by Prince of Space ("Hi Mom!")
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To: gitmo

He should be arrested for theft of public funds in my opinion. Global warming is a total hoax. The earth is cooling because of a lack of sun spots as it did in the early 1800s during the Maunder minimum. These liars are making their house payments on a lie!!


34 posted on 02/13/2010 7:24:01 PM PST by ReyTurner
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To: neverdem
Meanwhile, from this side of The Pond....

2 Views, 1 'Climategate' Rally On Penn State Campus

35 posted on 02/13/2010 7:27:28 PM PST by mewzilla (I'm not a socialist. Heck, yes, I hope Barry fails. Sheesh.)
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To: RobFromGa
his dog ate the temperature records...

No problem. Phil and Mike can make some more.

36 posted on 02/13/2010 7:34:01 PM PST by seton89 (Use Amendment X as your email signature)
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To: neverdem
And he said that for the past 15 years there has been no ‘statistically significant’ warming.

This is the main scientist in Gorebal Scamming

Pray for America's Freedom

37 posted on 02/13/2010 7:36:13 PM PST by bray (Throw All the Bums Out, starting with McCain)
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To: cogitator

Ping of possible interest. Phil Jones admits no warming of any sort in the past 15 years and that his records are screwed up.


38 posted on 02/13/2010 7:36:56 PM PST by ConservativeMind (Hypocrisy: "Animal rightists" who eat meat & pen up pets while accusing hog farmers of cruelty.)
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To: neverdem

*coughBS*cough*

You take a set of totally RANDOM numbers... as many as you want. Put them into the program used to generate the Hockey Stick graph and you know what you get?

Just guess.

Come on guess.....

A HOCKEY STICK GRAPH.

Don’t tell me that was “Accidental” Yea, like pregnancy is accidental. RIIIIIIGH.


39 posted on 02/13/2010 7:37:25 PM PST by Danae (Don't like our Constitution? Try living in a country with out one.)
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To: neverdem

Hitler rant on global warming and Al Gore.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=672w0G7lvYE


40 posted on 02/13/2010 7:40:51 PM PST by seawolf101
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