Posted on 02/22/2010 4:34:40 AM PST by SJackson
BCE/CE notation system’s been in use for well over a century; you’d think educated people would be used to seeing by now...just like the metric measurements used.
The BC/BCE deal is fairly clever.
It’s long been obvious to Christians that God set the calendar for the Hebrews.
“It’s long been obvious to Christians that God set the calendar for the Hebrews.”
Why don’t you produce said calendar then?
“The location is Israel. By law it’s a “Jewish Nation”. The Jews don’t have “Christ” at the top of their list ~ just their thing eh!”
Are you saying it was the Jewish folks who took Christ out of BC? I don’t think so...where is your proof?
Frankly, in Israel they can count the years as the wish, and use whatever terminology they come up with that they can agree is serviceable.
We have dozens in America who think "BC" stands for "before cluthu".
“Why don’t I produce”? Hey, do I look like God to you?
Thanks Jewbacca (great name by the way) When does the Jewish calendar start? Coming out of Egypt?
““Why don’t I produce”? Hey, do I look like God to you?”
:) No, you don’t look like God nor Jesus Christ to me...you look like a string of letters, making little sense actually. But, at least you are having fun.
“When does the Jewish calendar start?”
One year before the date of Creation (give or take; there is a missing 165 years, that is a subject of much dispute).
That said, ever since R’ Azariah dei Rossi, in Me’or Einayim, it has been accepted that the traditional Hebrew dating is not historically precise regarding the years before the Second Temple.
“Where did you get that? I have never heard of a calendar ESTABLISHED by G-d.”
I would suggest reading the Torah. The calendar was establish by G-d in Exodus, which would be in any Bible:
http://www.mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt0212.htm#2
“What’s wrong...are you afraid of typing G-D???”
No. I do, however, obey His laws. (Or at least try to.) We do not write G-d’s name in a place where it may be discarded or erased. Treating G-d’s name with reverence is a way to give respect to G-d.
http://www.jewfaq.org/name.htm
“What does any of that have to do with what I said anyway?”
You (or another poster or posters, don’t recall) was upset about the use of “CE” or “BCE”). The response to this is Jewish people will use the Gregorian Calendar, even though it is based on pagan Roman practices, as the Gregorian calendar is generally used in the secular world, but decline to adopt language that promotes a religious worldview with which they disagree.
In other words, the BCE or CE is a compromise.
If Jewish people were as stubborn as those that demand “AD” or “BC,” the calendar dating would be the Hebrew calendar.
I did go to the site you linked to...I think it is a very far stretch to say that that is God’s calendar in the context we were discussing on this thread...
I was not aware that Jewish folks think it is sacrilegious to spell out God. Thanks for pointing that out. In my faith, there is no problem with it...as you can see.
I don’t think the Jewish scholars had much to do with taking Jesus Christ out of the long, long designation describing the modern era. If it were Jewish involvement then perhaps they would have changed the dates of the “Common Era” to be something other than the general birth of Jesus/death of Jesus. I think it is far more likely that the power behind the evil is from atheists. But, I really do not know who started it.
“I did go to the site you linked to...I think it is a very far stretch to say that that is G-d’s calendar in the context we were discussing on this thread...”
If you had natural curiosity, it would take little effort to see that portion of Exodus is the seed.
FWIW, the dating concept from (slightly before) Biblical date of Creation is called “Anno Mundi” and was used by Christians until pagan Roman emporers decided they wanted to be immortalized in the calendar.
Orthodox Christians (and Roman Christians until they got eaten by lions) still use a parallel non-pagan dating system known as “Etos Kosmou.”
The only dating I have ever heard of...including in history classes at university is the BC/AD dating. Until recently this is what was used, period. At least in the civilized portion of the planet.
A seed is not a product and you have failed to produce a calender...you choose to be dogmatic and hence we have come to a standstill.
I enjoyed discussing light hearted things with you, but wish to move on now...thanks for the chuckles.
“The only dating I have ever heard of...including in history classes at university is the BC/AD dating.”
You are woefully uneduated, then.
“Until recently this is what was used, period.”
No, actually the Gregorian Calendar was an invention of the middle ages, 24 February 1582 CE, specifically, and based on the pagan Julian calendar.
The AM dating system of the Hebrew calender is far older.
“At least in the civilized portion of the planet.”
I had no idea Israel, Greece, and most of eastern Europe was not civilized. Indeed, I thought most considered Greece to be the cradle of Western civilization.
“you choose to be dogmatic and hence we have come to a standstill.”
No, I choose to be factual. Facts apparently disturb your worldview.
Wrong, you just called something evil with no basis whatsoever except for your own stupid view of what Christianity is. Go back to the skinhead websites.
“Christ” is the Greek word for “Messiah.” For a Jew to describe dates as “Before Christ” (B.C.) would be to acknowledge that Jesus is the Messiah — which is something that, by definition, a Jew cannot do. It is not “evil” for Jews to reject that Jesus was “Christ.” So Jews say “B.C.E.”, basically because you Gentiles would have no idea what time period we were referring to if we used the correct, Biblically ordained calender (which defines this year as 5770 years since Creation).
Of course Jews are allowed to see the truth. There are a goodly number of Jews who recognize Jesus Christ as the true Messiah. They are called Messianic Jews for Yeshua.
Of course taking Jesus Christ out of the calendar yet leaving the date ranges that encompassed is evil...Jesus = God = Good that which works to take Jesus out of our lives is by simple definition evil...
Can you show me where the term BCE was created by Jews?
“Wrong, you just called something evil with no basis whatsoever except for your own stupid view of what Christianity is. Go back to the skinhead websites.”
My, what a small minded little snot...read much?
So, in other words, you think Jews are evil for not acknowledging Jesus as Messiah. Glad we’ve got that cleared out of the way. Now please go f-ck yourself for being an intolerant, Jew-hating bastard.
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