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House passes bill to grant Native Hawaiians special rights as reparations for 1893 coup (new HI gov)
The Daily Caller ^ | 02/25/10 | Aleksandra Kulczuga

Posted on 02/25/2010 2:08:11 PM PST by Former Military Chick

The House of Representatives passed a bill Tuesday that would grant Native Hawaiians special rights as reparations for the 1893 peaceful overthrow of their Queen Liliuokalani which led to the eventual annexation of their island by the United States.

The bill creates a new Hawaiian government that would negotiate with the U.S. over things like land rights and natural resources, and could cede large tracts of land that became U.S. government property when Hawaii became a state in 1959, back to Native Hawaiians.

The bill defines “Native Hawaiians” as a distinct ethnic group that can trace its lineage directly to indigenous inhabitants of the island prior to 1893, but there are no details on what percentage heritage or proof is required. The bill would establish a commission to determine the process of establishing native Hawaiian ethnicity. Native Hawaiians would be federally recognized as a tribe similar to the way Native Americans’, and the laws of their governing body would in some cases supersede state law.

“Congress doesn’t have the constitutional authority to recognize members of a sovereign Indian tribe,” says Jill Strait, Republican spokesman for the House Natural Resources Committee.

Hawaii’s governor, who supported previous versions of the bill, announced her opposition to the latest version after new language was added which essentially removed state authority over the newly created Native Hawaiian governing body.

“You’re essentially creating different legal codes for different parts of society … they don’t all live on native or tribal lands there — you could have a neighbor or a business down the street that would be subject to different laws than you,” said Strait.

“Something is terribly wrong with this bill if the governor of Hawaii, an advocate for Native Hawaiian recognition, feels compelled to say she can’t support the rewritten text,” said Rep. Doc Hastings, ranking Republican on the House Natural Resources Committee. “The rewritten bill strikes at the heart of the state of Hawaii’s authority to enforce health and environmental regulations, taxes and criminal law enforcement equally among its citizens.”

“The state just wants to maintain the ability to bring a lawsuit against the Native Hawaiian government, and the Department of Justice has told them that there is no precedent for that kind of relationship between sovereign governments,” said Dave Helfert, a spokesman for Rep. Neil Abercrombie of Hawaii who sponsored the bill. “They will have to work things out in government negotiations. Besides, these changes in jurisdiction only deal with government-to-government stuff, Native Hawaiians that don’t live on Native Hawaiian lands will still have to pay taxes and license plates fees, etc — just like everyone else.”

Critics say the bill sets a dangerous precedent that could encourage other ethnic groups to seek similar recognition.

“If ethnic Hawaiians can be accorded tribal status, why not Chicanos in the Southwest? Or Cajuns in Louisiana?” testified Gail Heriot of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights in a hearing before the House Natural Resource Committee in June. “Indeed, it is implausible to say that Congress has the power to confer this benefit only upon racial or ethnic groups, since ordinarily congressional power is at its lowest ebb with issues that touch on race or ethnicity.”

The bill is not yet scheduled for a vote in the Senate, but many question whether it will be able to garner the necessary 60 votes to pass there. Versions of this bill passed the House during the Bush administration, but stalled in the Senate. President Bush vowed to veto it, but President Obama has expressed support.

Immediately after the House passed their version of the bill, several prominent senators issued statements in opposition.

“We believe it’s unconstitutional, it’s an affront to the national unity,” said Wesley Denton, a spokesman for Senator Jim Demint (R-S.C.). “It’s discriminatory and creates a race-based government that most American would be opposed to. The purpose of our nation is to bring people together, not separate them under governments based on race.”

Hawaii has a total population of about 1.2 million people, according to the U.S. Census Bureau, and about 22 percent of the population is considered Native Hawaiian. In 1959, more than 94 percent of Hawaiians voted to become the next American state. As of 2008, California had the largest number of Hawaiian Natives at 282,000.

A December 2009 poll showed that only 34 percent of Hawaiians supported the bill.

The bloodless 1893 coup d’état consisted of a small group of mostly white (American and European) farmers and businessmen who resided on the islands and opposed a new constitution the queen had proposed. The queen ceded her throne to avoid bloodshed, and then spent years petitioning the U.S. government for redress, to no avail.

The bill states, “Despite the overthrow of the government of the Kingdom of Hawaii, Native Hawaiians have continued to maintain their separate identity as a single distinct native community through cultural, social and political institutions, and to give expression to their rights as native people to self-determination, self-governance and economic self-sufficiency.”

“There has been opposition in the past, people said it created a racial preference, but as I look to the Native American reservations, I fail to discern any great preference that they get,” said Helfert. He added that it would be beneficial to the Native Hawaiians to be able to administer federal lands that have been held in trust for them since 1959. “A certain percentage of any revenues that comes from these lands are supposed to go to Native Hawaiians.”

“The stars seem to be aligned,” said Helfert of the bills prospects. Abercrombie is retiring from Congress this Friday and plans to run for governor of Hawaii.

Contact Aleksandra at ak@dailycaller.com


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So, is anyone shocked that this hasn't been covered. They feel that they should be treated like the Native Indians. I find a distinct difference.

Imagine all the problems this is going to cause, but most amazing that the current Governor, has now backtracked against it but OH NO, the congressional dems are still pursuing it.

I watched this in disbelief. Because this has consequences.

I look forward to fellow Freepers comments on this.

It has passed in the House several times, failed in the Senate, I wonder if this will be the case again.

Imagine all the problems this is going to cause, but most amazing that the current GOV, has now backtracked against it but OH NO, the congressional dems are still pursueing it.

I watched this in disbelief. Because this has consequences.

I look forward to fellow Freepers comments on this.

It has passed in the House several times, failed in the Senate, I wonder if this will be the case again.

1 posted on 02/25/2010 2:08:12 PM PST by Former Military Chick
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To: Former Military Chick

Wouldn’t hurt my feelings if we $hitcanned the whole state. Just keep the military bases ala Cuba.


2 posted on 02/25/2010 2:11:37 PM PST by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: Former Military Chick
“We believe it’s unconstitutional, it’s an affront to the national unity,” said Wesley Denton, a spokesman for Senator Jim Demint (R-S.C.). “It’s discriminatory and creates a race-based government that most American would be opposed to. The purpose of our nation is to bring people together, not separate them under governments based on race.”
Here, Here....
I see no good coming out of this if it passes.
3 posted on 02/25/2010 2:12:57 PM PST by FlashBack ('0'bama: "Katrina on a Global Level")
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To: Former Military Chick
The bill defines “Native Hawaiians” as a distinct ethnic group that can trace its lineage directly to indigenous inhabitants of the island prior to 1893, but there are no details on what percentage heritage or proof is required. The bill would establish a commission to determine the process of establishing native Hawaiian ethnicity.

Too bad Dr. Mengele is dead. He could help set up the Racial Identification Commissions.

4 posted on 02/25/2010 2:13:25 PM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Former Military Chick
Separate but equal; shades of Jim Crow!
5 posted on 02/25/2010 2:13:55 PM PST by AZhardliner
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To: Former Military Chick

divided, we fall

This makes Hawaii one big reservation and everyone else a trespasser subject to negotiating new terms to stay and live and work

Imagine what the US govt is going to pay for “rent” to keep Pearl Harbor base open and operating

And if the obama feds can do this in Hawaii - why not in New York State? Make whitey buy back Manhattan again? or Alaska? Or any state that had an indigenous population...


6 posted on 02/25/2010 2:14:02 PM PST by silverleaf (We don't want everyone in Washington to get along, We want them to get out of the way)
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To: Former Military Chick
What a crock !

We (TAXPAYERS), are donating $$$ for reparations to a non-U.S. entity at the time of the historical event back then?

With the Zero at the helm, we're paying every 3rd World dictator, every goofy foreign person, etc., whenever they ask for "compensation" from the bad-ol' USA....."Beam me up, Scottie"

7 posted on 02/25/2010 2:14:25 PM PST by traditional1 ("Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: Former Military Chick

Segregation.

This needs to be challenges in court and FAST


8 posted on 02/25/2010 2:15:33 PM PST by GeronL (Political Philosophy: I Own Me (yep, boiled down to 6 letters))
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To: Former Military Chick

Identity politics and an insane level of political correctness during fifty years of democrat rule have all but ruined what used to be a melting pot.


9 posted on 02/25/2010 2:16:38 PM PST by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius, (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: Travis McGee

Too bad Hawaii ever became a state. If it hadn’t we wouldn’t be dealing with Obama now! Do you think he’ll claim he’s ‘native Hawaiin’ so he can get some of them there..reparashuns???


10 posted on 02/25/2010 2:16:41 PM PST by AuntB (WE are NOT a nation of immigrants! We're a nation of Americans! http://towncriernews.blogspot.com/)
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To: Scotsman will be Free

I think they ought to declare them non-citizens and deport them. Or give them one of the islands (the undeveloped part) and say have at it.


11 posted on 02/25/2010 2:17:46 PM PST by ichabod1 ( I am rolling over in my grave and I am not even dead yet.)
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To: Former Military Chick
The bill defines “Native Hawaiians” as a distinct ethnic group that can trace its lineage directly to indigenous inhabitants of the island prior to 1893, but there are no details on what percentage heritage or proof is required.

We could just use the percentages laid out in the Nuremberg Laws, couldn't we? That worked so well the last time.

12 posted on 02/25/2010 2:18:10 PM PST by Argus (Goodbye Clowntown, Hello United States of America.)
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To: Former Military Chick

If this is ok, why not Sharia?


13 posted on 02/25/2010 2:19:48 PM PST by ichabod1 ( I am rolling over in my grave and I am not even dead yet.)
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To: Former Military Chick

For lying to America, Hawaii should be removed as a state.


14 posted on 02/25/2010 2:20:00 PM PST by Diogenesis ("Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." --Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Former Military Chick

Oh those evil white people!
“The bloodless 1893 coup d’état consisted of a small group of mostly white (American and European) farmers and businessmen who resided on the islands and opposed a new constitution the queen had proposed. The queen ceded her throne to avoid bloodshed, and then spent years petitioning the U.S. government for redress, to no avail.”
I haven’t been able to shut my mouth since Obama became president. I am still in shock over the 1.25 billion in reparations to the black farmers and now this?


15 posted on 02/25/2010 2:20:33 PM PST by katiedidit1
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To: Nachum

PING

~FMC


16 posted on 02/25/2010 2:20:56 PM PST by Former Military Chick (Please pray for our troops as they selflessly serve in harm's way say an extra one for my beloved!)
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To: ichabod1

Either way works for me.


17 posted on 02/25/2010 2:21:06 PM PST by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: Former Military Chick

Without a blood quantum requirement this will end badly. It probably would have anyway.


18 posted on 02/25/2010 2:21:14 PM PST by atomic_dog
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To: Former Military Chick

I wonder how this will effect the price of macadamia nuts.


19 posted on 02/25/2010 2:22:55 PM PST by Pajama Blogger
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To: Scotsman will be Free

Moloka’i,
Its not just for lepers any more.
Who really gives a crap about Hawaii?
Keep the military bases and quit subsidizing the place.


20 posted on 02/25/2010 2:22:57 PM PST by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Obammy is little more than a quota boy.)
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