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..Obama: Dems..Will Use Reconcil.-Pass Senate Health Care Reform Fix, If No Given Up or Down Vote
ABC News ^ | 3-2-10 | Jake Tapper

Posted on 03/02/2010 9:29:02 PM PST by STARWISE

White House officials tell ABC News that in his remarks tomorrow President Obama will indicate a willingness to work with Republicans on some issue to get a health care reform bill passed but will suggest that if it is necessary, Democrats will use the controversial "reconciliation" rules requiring only 51 Senate votes to pass the "fix" to the Senate bill, as opposed to the 60 votes to stop a filibuster and proceed to a vote on a bill.

Lawmakers on Capitol Hill have been awaiting the president’s remarks direction on how health care reform will proceed.

In his remarks, scheduled to be at the White House, the president will paint a picture of what he will say will happen without a health care reform bill – skyrocketing premiums, everyone at the mercy of the insurance industry as recently seen with the 39% premium increases proposed by Anthem Blue Cross in California.

(Excerpt) Read more at blogs.abcnews.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 111th; 51votes; bhohealthcare; military; nuclearoption; obama; obamacare; palin; senateplan; treason
"Meaning Joe Biden will be the 51st vote, completing an unprecedented abuse of Senate rules to takeover the US health care system..."

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He just doesn't care about anything except more Big Brother control and the new 100+ agencies and bureaucracies and operatives for the unions ... the blacklash could be historic.

1 posted on 03/02/2010 9:29:02 PM PST by STARWISE
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To: STARWISE

GOP should say “when you quit the ciggies, Bummer, then we’ll talk.”


2 posted on 03/02/2010 9:30:21 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: STARWISE

3 posted on 03/02/2010 9:33:30 PM PST by GloriaJane (Pro-Choice = Pro-Death........ Pro-Life = Pro-LIFE!)
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To: STARWISE

4 posted on 03/02/2010 9:35:39 PM PST by Bean Counter (I keeps mah feathers numbered, for just such an emergency...)
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To: STARWISE

IMHO, nobama has proven he’s an idiot one more time.

Somebody please tell me the difference between a reconciliation vote and an up-or-down vote.

The way I understand it, both are the same thing.

Reconciliation - gotta have 51 votes.

Up-or-down - gotta have 51 votes.

Anyone?


5 posted on 03/02/2010 9:47:35 PM PST by upchuck (nobama... the python prez, squeezing the very life out of everything he touches. h/t madamehusker1)
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To: onyx; penelopesire; seekthetruth; television is just wrong; jcsjcm; BP2; Pablo Mac; ...

Full article LONG title, and so the abbreviation:

President Obama to Say Democrats Will Use Reconciliation to Pass Senate Health Care Reform Fix, If Not Given Up or Down Vote


6 posted on 03/02/2010 9:48:49 PM PST by STARWISE (They (LIBS-STILL) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war- Richard Miniter)
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To: STARWISE

Him & his commie rats will all be gone soon, vote them out!


7 posted on 03/02/2010 10:13:39 PM PST by blondee123 (Illinois ELECT Adam Kinzinger - http://www.electadam.com/)
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To: STARWISE
Its called the NUCLEAR OPTION.

DO NOT LET THE JAKE TAPPER AND THE DEM MEDIA BURY THAT TERMINOLOGY.

these Dem party work games need to stop today.

SCREAM AT THE DEMS ON THE PHONE AND CALL IT THE NUKING THE CONSTITUTION !

8 posted on 03/02/2010 10:50:32 PM PST by ncalburt (e)
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To: STARWISE

Obama would be spitting into the collective eye of every American if this is what he does.

Then there will be no going back, he will have crossed to Rubicon.

Form this time forward, his entire Administration will then be seen as a blatant “End justify the Means” experiment.

And it will be one that, like Communism, will FAIL.


9 posted on 03/02/2010 11:23:24 PM PST by R0CK3T
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To: R0CK3T

All that the GOP needs to do is say that THEY WILL REPEAL it the Moment they take back power.

That is all


10 posted on 03/03/2010 12:48:48 AM PST by BornToBeAmerican
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To: R0CK3T
Sew the Wind.

REAP THE WHIRLWIND,

Senator Obama (D-Kenya).

11 posted on 03/03/2010 12:51:26 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Its time to CLEARLY threaten a huge, middle-class American TAX REVOLT in Tea Party signs & placards)
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To: upchuck

The difference is the Focus Group that said you sound better saying Up or down vote


12 posted on 03/03/2010 3:38:02 AM PST by ballplayer
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To: STARWISE

This guy has a lot of power. The dems in the senate are waiting for their master to tell them what to do. I had no idea it was supposed to work that way. Again, who is he? Or “what” is he?


13 posted on 03/03/2010 4:23:46 AM PST by Terry Mross (We need a "Second Sons of Liberty".)
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To: STARWISE
No one who has paid attention to Obama will be surprised by the methods used to achieve progressive aims. Obama was nominated by perverting the Democrat caucus process when Hilary Clinton supports were prevented from participating by SEIU thugs. Obama was elected with absentee ballot stuffing by ACORN cheats. Obama abetted the election of Al Frankin through endless recounts until the correct count emerged. Obama fires an Inspector General to protect a thieving friend. Obama offers a federal appointment to have a Democrat Representative not run for Senate.

Progressive ends always justify the Means. Always.

“The American people [Obama] don’t care about Senate rules.” - Obama on reconciliation

14 posted on 03/03/2010 4:57:20 AM PST by ricks_place
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To: STARWISE

The Senate bill must first pass the House any there are serious doubts that it has the votes to pass.


15 posted on 03/03/2010 5:06:08 AM PST by thethirddegree
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To: ricks_place

The American people do care about Senate rules. The traitors to America who voted for and worship obama don’t. All the traitors want is the free money obama promised them.


16 posted on 03/03/2010 5:13:48 AM PST by sport
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To: STARWISE
They have to pass the Senate version in the House first and then the Reconciliation becomes meaningless since the Bill would be Law.

All this emphasis on the Senate is smoke and mirrors.

The House is where the battle is going to be fought.

17 posted on 03/03/2010 6:00:24 AM PST by fortheDeclaration ("Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people".-John Adams)
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To: thethirddegree
The Senate bill must first pass the House any there are serious doubts that it has the votes to pass.

Exactly!

The Reconciliation issue is for House Democrats to be conned into voting for the Senate version with the promise that any issues they have would be fixed in Reconciliation.

But the Bill would still be passed.

The House is where the Bill must be defeated, not the Senate.

18 posted on 03/03/2010 6:02:30 AM PST by fortheDeclaration ("Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people".-John Adams)
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To: upchuck
Reconciliation - gotta have 51 votes.

Up-or-down - gotta have 51 votes.

Think of it as a chocolate covered turd. One covered in white chocolate, the other in dark chocolate.

19 posted on 03/03/2010 6:03:40 AM PST by IamConservative (Liberty is all a good man needs to succeed.)
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