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Many Nations Passing U.S. in Education, Expert Says
New York Times ^ | March 9, 2010 | Sam Dillon

Posted on 03/10/2010 2:31:54 AM PST by reaganaut1

One of the world’s foremost experts on comparing national school systems told lawmakers on Tuesday that many other countries were surpassing the United States in educational attainment, including Canada, where he said 15-year-old students were, on average, more than one school year ahead of American 15-year-olds.

America’s education advantage, unrivaled in the years after World War II, is eroding quickly as a greater proportion of students in more and more countries graduate from high school and college and score higher on achievement tests than students in the United States, said Andreas Schleicher, a senior education official at the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development in Paris, which helps coordinate policies for 30 of the world’s richest countries.

“Among O.E.C.D. countries, only New Zealand, Spain, Turkey and Mexico now have lower high school completion rates than the U.S.,” Mr. Schleicher said. About 7 in 10 American students get a high school diploma.

Mr. Schleicher’s comments came in testimony before the Senate education committee and in a statement he delivered. The panel plans to rewrite the Elementary and Secondary Education Act, the main law governing federal policy on public schools.

The committee also heard from Dennis Van Roekel, president of the National Education Association, the largest teachers’ union; John Castellani, president of the Business Roundtable, a group that represents corporate executives; and Charles Butt, chief executive of a supermarket chain in Texas, who said employers there faced increasing difficulties in hiring qualified young workers.

The blame for America’s sagging academic achievement does not lie solely with public schools, Mr. Butt said, but also with dysfunctional families and a culture that undervalues education. “Schools are inheriting an overentertained, distracted student,” he said.

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Looking at NAEP reading and math scores for 17-year-olds, there has been little change in reading scores by race from 1990 to 2008 and some improvement in math, but the changing demographic mix has caused math scores to stagnate and reading scores to fall. Immigration policy should be changed to reduce low-IQ immigration. A highly progressive tax code with generous child tax credits for low income households, in a country with very high college costs, discourages the more educated and affluent from having more children and encourages the other end of the spectrum to have more.
1 posted on 03/10/2010 2:31:54 AM PST by reaganaut1
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America’s education advantage, unrivaled in the years after World War II

What's the context or perspective, if any, on stuff like this? Supposedly, Sputnik in 1957 was the "great wake-up call" and there were all sorts of educational initiatives.

2 posted on 03/10/2010 2:41:09 AM PST by gusopol3
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To: reaganaut1

NYT pimping a socialist/progressive/union future education package...which they then will come out advocating 4-day schools while teachers take no cuts in pay or get paid more. /s


3 posted on 03/10/2010 2:48:08 AM PST by cranked
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To: gusopol3

If you discount or toss out the rural school statistics...which show something like nine of ten kids graduating...the overall results would be alot worse. Urban school decay is around half the entire problem. But you won’t dare hear any political figure from either party say that in public.


4 posted on 03/10/2010 2:48:20 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: reaganaut1

First the unions destroyed our manufacturing sector. Then our government employees sector, and now are education sector. What’s next? Wait till they try and unionize our military!!


5 posted on 03/10/2010 2:49:46 AM PST by Laserman
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The big missing points are course content and the unionization of public education.
A quick look at the progressive indoctrination centers that we call public schools will explain both our failure in education and the current downfall in our government.


6 posted on 03/10/2010 2:50:32 AM PST by Steamburg (The contents of your wallet is the only language Politicians understand.)
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To: reaganaut1

‘UNExpediently’????


7 posted on 03/10/2010 2:53:23 AM PST by RSmithOpt (Liberalism: Highway to Hell)
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To: reaganaut1
Not surprising.
Schools hese days are more interested in equality of outcome rather than excellence of outcome.

As long as the libs at the NEA are in charge, our government-schooled kids are doomed in world competition.

Is why we home-schooled.

8 posted on 03/10/2010 2:53:33 AM PST by grobdriver (Proud Member, Party Of No! No Socialism - No Fascism - Nobama - No Way!)
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compare the scores each year from 1966 to today... and you will notice the decline started shortly after the creation of the department of education.

government education

controlled by progressives

is there any wonder we’re falling behind?


9 posted on 03/10/2010 2:55:48 AM PST by sten
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Indeed.

It is sad but it is not by any stretch of the imagination news.

Multiculturalism, self esteem, political correctness, the student aid system and the liberals domination of the education hierarchy have all worked together to gut the US education system.

10 posted on 03/10/2010 3:00:57 AM PST by Pontiac
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Supposedly, Sputnik in 1957 was the "great wake-up call" and there were all sorts of educational initiatives.

As far as I can see, up until about 1957, the US was doing pretty well in education. Then they rolled out all of these "initiatives" and made the schools into leftwing indoctrination centers. The quality of education started going down at that time.

As it often does, the Left said one thing (We need to improve education) and did another (Let's dumb down America).

11 posted on 03/10/2010 3:06:01 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (We're all heading toward red revolution - we just disagree on which type of Red we want.)
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1966 to today... and you will notice the decline started shortly after the creation of the department of education.

To what extent does the expansion of the pool of test takers, i.e. 50% of H.S. students as opposed to 25%(I'm only guessing) , account for the decline? I know mh kids' high school education has been a lot more rigorous than mine was. Except they don't teach grammar anymore.

12 posted on 03/10/2010 3:08:08 AM PST by gusopol3
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To: ClearCase_guy

Sounds like the Progressive enterprise that Glen Beck elucidates.


14 posted on 03/10/2010 3:13:39 AM PST by gusopol3
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I know mh kids' high school education has been a lot more rigorous than mine was.

Can I ask where you live? The high school textbooks I see today remind me of the textbooks I had in junior high school or even elementary school.

15 posted on 03/10/2010 3:14:11 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (We're all heading toward red revolution - we just disagree on which type of Red we want.)
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To: arbooz
I know to fix it: we just don't spend enough money on this problem

A couple of "shoulda's" : Kansas City Missouri : Progressive Education doctrine::RomneyCare: Obamacare. Shh! Don't tell the people.

16 posted on 03/10/2010 3:17:47 AM PST by gusopol3
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To: reaganaut1

I think that you are closer to the truth. So much of this has to do with breeding. The minorities are popping out kids by the dozens and America has to live with this outcome. And the outcome is going to be controlled more and more by foreign values and lower IQ that they bring in here.


17 posted on 03/10/2010 3:21:54 AM PST by DooDahhhh (AMEN)
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To: ClearCase_guy

A relatively prodigious number of kids in Maryland take Calculus in high school, there were probably only 25 or 30 of my 700 + graduating class that did. That alone is enough to keep the midnight oil burning. Plus AP’s, which are quite rigorous. And 7 majors; in my time, 4 was the norm , 5 the limit.


18 posted on 03/10/2010 3:23:54 AM PST by gusopol3
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19 posted on 03/10/2010 3:51:17 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (ONLINE TAX REVOLT 150,000 AND GROWING. http://www.onlinetaxrevolt.com)
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To: Steamburg

I would suggest you should explicitly recognize the Colleges of Education in our universities as the drivers of the weak course content and methods being used in our schools.

If I were Czar (”the” real Czar, not “a” wimpy Obama czar), one of my first acts would be to abolish Colleges of education and all public-sector unions, including most importantly the teachers’ unions.


20 posted on 03/10/2010 3:55:33 AM PST by FreedomPoster (No Representation without Taxation!)
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