Posted on 03/10/2010 10:58:17 AM PST by camerongood210
Sex abuse scandals in the Roman Catholic Church are proof that that "the Devil is at work inside the Vatican", according to the Holy See's chief exorcist.
Father Gabriele Amorth, 85, who has been the Vatican's chief exorcist for 25 years and says he has dealt with 70,000 cases of demonic possession, said that the consequences of satanic infiltration included power struggles at the Vatican as well as "cardinals who do not believe in Jesus, and bishops who are linked to the Demon".
He added: "When one speaks of 'the smoke of Satan' [a phrase coined by Pope Paul VI in 1972] in the holy rooms, it is all true – including these latest stories of violence and paedophilia."
He claimed that another example of satanic behaviour was the Vatican "cover-up" over the deaths in 1998 of Alois Estermann, the then commander of the Swiss Guard, his wife and Corporal Cedric Tornay, a Swiss Guard, who were all found shot dead. "They covered up everything immediately," he said. "Here one sees the rot".
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a refreshingly frank admission that clerics are only human, and this is a battle every one of us must fight each day on this earth
I believe it is a line from “The Advocates Devil”, when Al Pacino relates to Keanu Reeves.
“The Greatest trick in the World is that the Devil convinced everyone that he doesn’t exist” By then you know he is satan.
“our name is legion”
Wow, in a single posession case you can exorcised a legion’s worth of demons. A roman legion = 4,500.
I didn't post that. My best guess is that it's automatically generated by FR when someone creates a thread.
Depends on if they go by the person or demon...like when Jesus cleansed the man of the Legion...those numbers could add up quick! :)
After that, I’d take the rest of the day off.
It is against the principality of darkness that we fight not the flesh. So it is appropriate to consider that demonic possession may indeed be the culprit.
And who has to clean up all the vomit?
“Chief Exorcist” is a general label because of his age and experience and the fact that Fr. Amorth established the international group of Exorcists which he is only the entitled leader due to his retirement.
I believe he refers to all the cases he’s asked to assess - whether they are psychological in nature, etc. And he can “farm” them out to other exorcists. Also the cases begun by others with less relief are often brought to him as last resort. He also sees same individuals often over a length of time. Exorcisms can last for years sometimes - depending on many things.
Someone mentioned as seemingly odd that the Vatican has exorcists. Well, Christ began the Church’s exorcisms Himself and the Church continues what He taught and gave power to.
Some of the Vatican’s “hiding” could be more of just not advertising events in care for family members involved or cases still being investigated.
Otherwise, in today’s anti-Church bias, advertising every event would only add more fuel to the atheistic ranting fire. The present Pope is really getting the secular/atheistic forces’ guns in his face lately. Pray for him.
I have listened to Camping a bit and came away thoroughly confused. Apparently he thinks he knows the exact date of Jesus’ return. What about scripture that says no man knows that? Well that only applied to the “church” age, not now.
Or something like that.
Does he speak for the Vatican? Or not?
It he talking about Bernard Cardinal Law(less)?
The observation about Satan’s greatest trick is much older, first mentioned by CS Lewis.
I know you did not post it, I already sent you an apology. Thanks
I thought he went down to Georgia
No thank you. I have seen this failed Catholic's work before and disagree with his basic premise that Catholicism, like Islam, has fatal flaws.
My point that the Vatican is Satan's highest priority target is a defense of the Catholic Church, not an indictment of it. Satan sees the Catholic Church as his greatest obstacle on earth to displacing God. The participation of ungodly institutions and persons like communists, Nazi's, dictators, atheists, and secular humanists is understandable. What is most tragic is the willing participation in this undermining by those who call themselves Christians while attacking Christ's Church. The strife, friction and defocusing of all Christians involved in this assault on the Catholic Church does not serve God, but does serve Satan's agenda.
I know. I realized that a soon as I posted my return to you. No problem. It was just a misunderstanding.
Agreed. As if any Christian is saved by his own grace and not His.
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