Skip to comments.MICHAEL BARONE: Can Nancy Pelosi Get the Votes?
Posted on 03/10/2010 6:20:55 PM PST by neverdem
The Senate bill's abortion language is not the House Speaker's only problem.
Are there enough votes in the House to pass the Senate's health-care bill? As of today, it's clear there aren't. House Democratic leaders have brushed aside White House calls to bring the bill forward by March 18, when President Barack Obama heads to Asia. Nevertheless, analysts close to the Democratic leadership tell me they're confident the leadership will find some way to squeeze out the 216 votes needed for a majority.
Speaker Nancy Pelosi has indeed shown mastery at amassing majorities. But it's hard to see how she'll do so on this one. The arithmetic as I see it doesn't add up.
The House passed its version of the health bill in November by 220-215. Of those 220, one was a Republican who now is a no. One Democrat who voted yes has died, two Democrats who voted yes have resigned, and one Democrat who voted no has resigned as well. So if everyone but the Republican votes the way they did four months ago, the score would be 216-215.
But not everyone is ready to vote that way. The House bill included an amendment prohibiting funding of abortions sponsored by Michigan Democrat Bart Stupak. The Senate bill did not. Mr. Stupak says he and 10 to 12 other members won't vote for the Senate bill for that reason. Others have said the same, including Minnesota's James Oberstar, chairman of the Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure, and Dan Lipinski, a product of the Chicago Democratic machine.
Mrs. Pelosi may have some votes in reservemembers who would have voted yes if she needed them in November and would do so again. But we can be pretty sure she doesn't have more than 10, or she wouldn't have allowed...
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I’d say no if she wasn’t so damn sexy! /s
Can Al Qaeda recruit suicide bombers? Could the Japanese recruit kamikaze pilots?
See where you Congressman currently stands of the Obamacare vote:
She could force "wayward" Dims to look at nude Pelosi images.
Barone doesn’t feel Pelosi can do it, so I feel much better now.
Did not this idiotic woman say, “We must pass the bill so you can read what is in it”! What a freaking dunce — and people think she is some kind of braniac? She is a freakin Maniac
Rush doesn’t think they have the votes either...I hope not.
Yeah, it's a good thing that Rush has never been wrong about the Democrats.
Of course they’ll get the votes. Pelosi’s got a bottomless checkbook to bribe them with.
Barone didn’t say it wasn’t possible. I think his analysis is the same as Limbaugh’s. If Pelosi had the votes, this would be over by now. She’s still working it. (Interesting that today’s press suggests division in Dem ranks over those “artificial deadlines” from Rahm Emmanuel. Poor little legislators slaving away on legislation they don’t bother to read...)
But if these results are typical of the nation as a whole, they're probably looking at over 100 members sitting in districts where the health care reform bill is upside-down.
The Democrats' Pickett's Charge Dick Morris
While Dick Morris' are usually discounted, I usually find Mike Barone right on the money.
She’s got the votes.
It’s just a matter of money and ambassadorships for those democrats that will fall on the sword.
Thanks for the link.
Correction: When President Obama takes his daughters on a spring break trip to visit his roots.
If Republicans played the way Democrats do the press would be declaring that a coup is in progress.
Let alone making freight trains jump the tracks...
Wait a second. Didn’t Pelosi say today she already had the votes? I thought they could vote right after the party at Representative Massa’s place.
No one is even mentioning the taxes on the cadillac insurance plans that lefty democrats don’t want in the bill but is in the Senate bill. Does anyone think this one’s getting through reconcilliation? I hope the Republicans say if we’re going to screw the whole country, we’ll just let the unions be screwed also and they gum this up so there’s no tax break.
Obamacare call list: Courtsey of TN Eagle Forum:
PLEASE CALL! DC OFFICE LOCAL OFFICE State District
Harry Mitchell (202) 225-2190 (480) 946-2411 AZ 5th District
Gabrielle Giffords (202) 225-2542 (520) 881-3588 AZ 8th District
Ann Kirkpatrick (202) 225-2315 (928) 226-6914 AZ 1st District
Jerry McNerney (202) 225-1947 925-833-0643 CA 11th District
John Salazar 202-225-4761 970-245-7107 CO 3rd District
Jim Himes (202) 225-5541 (866) 453-0028 CT 4th District
Alan Grayson (202) 225-2176 (407) 841-1757 FL 8th District
Bill Foster (202) 225-2976 630-406-1114 IL 14th District
Baron Hill 202 225 5315 812 288 3999 IN 9th District
Mark Schauer (202) 225-6276 (517) 780-9075 MI 7th District
Gary Peters (202) 225-5802 (248) 273-4227 MI 9th District
Dina Titus (202) 225-3252 702-256-DINA (3462) NV 3rd District
Carol Shea-Porter (202) 225-5456 (603) 743-4813 NH 1st District
Tim Bishop (202) 225-3826 (631) 696-6500 NY 1st District
John Hall (202) 225-5441 (845) 225-3641 x49371 NY 19th District
Bill Owens (202) 225-4611 (315) 782-3150 NY 23rd District
Mike Arcuri (202)225-3665 (315)793-8146 NY 24th District
Dan Maffei (202) 225-3701 (315) 423-5657 NY 25th District
Earl Pomeroy (202) 225-2611 (701) 224-0355 ND At-Large District
Steven Driehaus (202) 225-2216 (513) 684-2723 OH 1st District
Mary Jo Kilroy (202) 225-2015 (614) 294-2196 OH 15th District
Zach Space (202) 225-6265 (330) 364-4300 OH 18th District
Kathy Dahlkemper (202) 225-5406 (814) 456-2038 PA 3rd District
Patrick Murphy (202) 225-4276 (215) 826-1963 PA 8th District
Christopher Carney (202) 225-3731 (570) 585-9988 PA 10th District
Paul Kanjorski (202) 225-6511 (570) 825-2200 PA 11th District
John Spratt (202) 225-5501 (803)327-1114 SC 5th District
Tom Perriello (202) 225-4711 (276) 656-2291 VA 5th District
Alan Mollohan (202) 225-4172 (304) 623-4422 WVA 1st District
Nick Rahall (202) 225-3452 (304) 252-5000 WVA 3rd District
Steve Kagen (202) 225-5665 (920) 437-1954 WI 8th District
Bart Gordon (202) 225-4231 TN (A MAYBE)
Bart Stupak (202) 225 4735 MI
Brian Baird (202) 225-3536, Vancouver, (360) 695-6292. Olympia, (360) 352-9768, WA (A MAYBE)
Senator Mark Begich, Alaska, (202) 224-3004 toll free. (877) 501 - 6275 just became a MAYBE - His brother Nick the HAARP investigator. . . from Art Bell days
John Tanner (202) 225-4714, Union City, (731) 885-7070, Jackson Phone: (731) 423-4848, Millington (901) 873-5690 TN (A MAYBE)
NO to Socialized Medicine!
Barone gives Pelosi high marks for shrewdness and mastery of the process of amassing enough votes to win. That worries me, as I consider Barone to be the most astute political analyst on the American scene today. OTOH, Barone enumerates the many challenges facing the Speaker.
Barone doesn’t consider her to be idiotic or a dunce. He respects her political arm-twisting skills. Therefore, so do I.
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I hate to be the pessimist here, but I believe that bitch already has the votes and she will call for a vote this week. She has the bottomless checkbook.
Thanks for the ping/post/links and comments.
Social security marches over the backs of dead Americans.
National health care will march over the backs of many more dead Americans.
Individuals and their rights be damned. Collectivism/statism marches on.
Let me see if Drudge still has his nice little ...Photo:
Thanks for the ping!
Every pore on Nancy’s face was showing!
Can you even imagine what she looks like WITHOUT makeup? Kinda makes you cringe at that visual.
I wonder if she has seen Rahm naked?
Gabby Giffords (AZ-8) has supported Obama’s bill since before it existed. She demonstrated at townhalls in Aug - that she nearly had to be forced at gunpoint to do - that she doesn’t give a rat’s rear end about what people think. Calling her is a waste of time.
On several votes where she was allowed to vote ‘conservative’, she remained at the well with a democrat vote, ready to switch her vote if Pelosi needed. I wouldn’t be too surprised if she and Pelosi are doing some Massa-action in backrooms!
Nancy = FAIL.